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Wish me luck Im going against some beliefs I've held for a long time but it may be my only hope for a future. I'm so incredibly directionless, with plenty of potential, student loans are riding my ass so this is my best course of action.
Any of y'all considered it before/served in the military?
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Yeah I wanted to when I was younger but I could never pass a drug test.
Morally I am opposed to being a part of that but all the soldiers I have ever met seem to know whats up and the lols you have with a bunch of guys you have near death experiences with alone would outweigh all the innocents you'd have to slaughter.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse]
#23782594 - 10/29/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yup watched a could of friends become strangers willing to die if ordered. If you want to be told what to do, when to do it and how to feel then yes the military is for you! Just remember if you change your mind you officially become a slave because they own you.
BTW then there are all the perks of military life like PSTD but enough said good luck.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: rider420]
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good luck baby. have fun baby
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse]
#23782624 - 10/29/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It was the one branch I was going to sign up for when I was 18-19. I just could not get past the thought of boot camp. In hindsight I wish I would have in the ways that I would be retired by now with a lot of material things and a completely different way of life than I live now (maybe, IDK). Regret things you have done instead of things you haven't. Good luck either way.
I am in my 50's now and glad I didn't. I have a really nice comfy life for the most part and someone to share it with. I would have been in desert storm (I was 20 in 1985, I would have signed up in 83-84). With the way things are in the world in certain places you would more than likely see combat. That is some really heavy shit to consider.
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I believe in the air force you get a stress card, or is that the navy? I can't remember.
You don't have to join the military and be a door gunner on a huey and shoot innocent civilians who're tending their rice paddies, you can have a long fulfilling career and learn a lot which is not related to gunning down 3rd world savages, probably wont ever touch a gun in a conflict unless that's what you want.
I would probably totally join some branch of the military, like the branch where they sat you down and fed you psychoactive substances and then told your family you died like a hero in battle even though you were locked away in some lab in some god forsaken part of the the world, that would be cool, you know for science and all.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse] 9
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That's definitely the branch to join. That said, it's recommended to hold off on major life decisions for the first year clean for a very good reason. And clean means nothing, and you're still using substances. The military can provide direction, and be very beneficial.....but joining up while struggling can & often does backfire. You're young & have plenty of time to figure your life out. My advice is to actually get clean & focus on working through the things you need to work through. If you still want to sign up after a year of that, then it's most likely the right path for you & you should go for it.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Lucis]
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Have you signed up already? There is always the chance they dont want you
My brother wanted to join, they wouldnt have him
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Yeah but the Army gives you the best comradery among men short of being gay, plus you get to stare the innocents in the face as you slaughter them and lick the blood off your knife afterwards.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse]
#23782842 - 10/29/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The air force is a good job and a good career. I know someone who raised a large family in a real nice house in a great (and expensive) part of town thanks to the air force. It's a boring and hard job, but the perks are real good.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: nooneman]
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Great choice
I'm not military, but my BIL is and after twenty years you get a pension, imagine retiring at age 38, wish I'd of done it
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse]
#23782913 - 10/29/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I mean if it keeps you off dope maybe but if you end up still addicted in the air force that can't work out too well
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Moonshoe]
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I'm not currently craving dope, but indeed I am still an addict, am not far removed from a time where I was shooting up almost every day. DS makes a good point, but I refuse to wait a year
Not joining to escape my addiction issues, going to improve my life in general... find some purpose. I'm going in with a bachelors degree in Computer Science. I'm hoping they will have related work for me.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse]
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse]
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Overall I think it could be a good idea. You will learn skills, get discipline, and have structure, and a change of scenery. All things that could really benefit an addict.
My best friend is joining the navy at the moment.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Moonshoe]
#23782973 - 10/29/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice choice dude. I was in the air force through most of basic training but got med discharge.
Boot camp is tuff at first like the 1st night I actually thought of throwing myself off the top bunk to break my arm or something so maybe I would get sent home lol.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: YaYoKush]
#23782989 - 10/29/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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That physical challenge, skills, teamwork and discipline are the parts i most respect.
Abdication your freedom of thought and moral control of your own life and implicit willingness to commit the murder of innocents for unjust causes is the big downside.
And the fact that 22 veterans commit suicide every day and more soldiers die of suicide than combat should make you think twice about what military service does to a person.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse]
#23783001 - 10/29/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Become a cop instead, it's the excitement you're looking for minus the slave chains
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Hobozen]
#23783005 - 10/29/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I personally dont see as wide of a career field in police services
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I was in the military for almost six years and I can honestly say that it was one of the best decisions I've ever made. It made me a much more independent person and taught me a lot of life lessons. I also made a lot of life long friends from all over the world, something you don't really get in the civilian workplace. Yeah, I experienced hard times with deployments and general military life but in the end I'm glad I did it. And fuck all people who think that the military brain washes you, and all that shit. It really depends on the individual. I can honestly say that I'm the same person I was before I joined, just older, much more mature, more responsible and more adamant about staying in shape and being healthy. I'm in the best shape of my life right now, and I can thank the military for that hands down. I think you'll be glad you decided to enlist, just remember whatever you do, don't quit! Boot camp can be a huge reality check. Homesickness is definite. If you got an questions brother, you can PM me. Best wishes man.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse]
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One time, i wanted to be a Helicopter or Jet Fighter polite (hehe).
I think it would be awesome to pilot a huge machine like a helicopter or jet fighter but i get really bad air sickness so that wouldnt work for me.
Never entered thou, out of all the forces, Air Force soinded the coolest.
Note that when u enter the military, they will likely give u a hair drug test to get a long term snapshot of your past drug use.
Is there a specific thing u wanna do in the Air Force?
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse]
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Dude, try like hell to get misawa or kadena air base in japan. I was at both. It's like hawaii, with hot and cold running bitches that have money.
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ModestMouse said: Wish me luck Im going against some beliefs I've held for a long time but it may be my only hope for a future. I'm so incredibly directionless, with plenty of potential, student loans are riding my ass so this is my best course of action.
Any of y'all considered it before/served in the military?
I don't think you need to join the military to solve your problems, it likely won't solve any of your problems, and I don't think one should join for money
But it can help your finances and definitely help pay for college And if they have use for you then so be it
Just to clarify I'm not against joining the military or fighting in our wars, I just think one should join for the sake of doing so. I know a good number of people who did or are still in, and base my opinion on their experiences
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moonrockmushy said: Yeah but the Army gives you the best comradery among men short of being gay, plus you get to stare the innocents in the face as you slaughter them and lick the blood off your knife afterwards.
Like ol pappy always said, rape pillage and plunder
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Repertoire89]
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Ask not what your country can do for you, but who's cunt can you rape to pay off your student loans?
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moonrockmushy said: Yeah but the Army gives you the best comradery among men short of being gay, plus you get to stare the innocents in the face as you slaughter them and lick the blood off your knife afterwards.
Like ol pappy always said, rape pillage and plunder
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Joining the military is a horrible idea. The world doesn't need more war. Do something to make the world a better place instead of killing people for resources and religious beliefs
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War is inevitable, we need a strong military to maintain our safety and interests
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PatrickKn said: Hey MM, I'm in the Army currently. It was a wise decision for myself, and I genuinely enjoy it more than anything I've done in the past. I'm a Satellite Operator. If you're interested in computer sciences, consider a job in signal related fields - specifically satellite operations. Likewise, look into geospatial engineering, signals intelligence analyst.
Don't get an MOS that you already have in the bag from college. Use the military to your advantage to learn a new set of skills that you don't already know, not to put something you already know into practice. You can put what you know into practice when you get out. I guess what I'm trying to say is don't go for computer science based MOS's if you've already gone to college for that. There are more advanced MOS's you can get into that will incorporate bits of that but have more room for growth and development of additional skills.
When my first enlistment ends, I plan on re-enlisting and going to the special satellite operations course that is 17 weeks that my MOS can attend. I've went to AIT for 35 weeks and learned the basics of my job, but the 1C course is more advanced. You can get jobs starting at over 90,000 with that kind of free training right out of the army, but I'm planning on doing 20 years myself. That's not something I was planning before I joined. After a few weeks at basic I pretty much realized I wanted to keep going for 20 years straight. It brings me more happiness than I could have realized.
Despite not being combat arms, there are many opportunities to go to specialized schools and to get deployed around the world. I plan on becoming a Warrant Officer myself, and hope to finish a technical degree in signal technology within a couple years. All college courses you take while in are paid for, and don't even effect your GI bill for when you get out. I could potentially get a full masters degree while I'm in, and will still have the GI bill to do whatever I want with when I get out.
Since you've done some college, consider going officer. If that's not available to you at the time of enlistment, make sure to ask for every bonus available. I made the mistake of not asking for enlistment bonuses. I got no bonus, but people who came in to my same MOS 4 months later were getting a $40,000 sign on bonus.
You're a smart dude MM, have you taken an ASVAB yet? If you score under a 120 for your GT score, study for it online and re-do it, because you should have no trouble at all scoring above that. Your options are much bigger with a higher GT score than anything else. I started getting offers for other MOS's right off the bat, straight out of AIT because of a high GT score, including stuff like Military Intelligence for Special Forces units, helicopter piloting and even advanced electronics courses. I enjoy my MOS for the time being though, which is great. I lucked out picking it, because I had no idea what I was doing when I chose it.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Repertoire89]
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PatrickKn said: Hey MM, I'm in the Army currently. It was a wise decision for myself, and I genuinely enjoy it more than anything I've done in the past. I'm a Satellite Operator. If you're interested in computer sciences, consider a job in signal related fields - specifically satellite operations. Likewise, look into geospatial engineering, or signals intelligence analyst. I'm not telling you to pick them necessarily, but do read all about them before making a decision.
Don't get an MOS that you already have in the bag from college. Use the military to your advantage to learn a new set of skills that you don't already know, not to put something you already know into practice. You can put what you know into practice when you get out. I guess what I'm trying to say is don't go for computer science based MOS's if you've already gone to college for that. There are more advanced MOS's you can get into that will incorporate bits of that but have more room for growth and development of additional skills.
When my first enlistment ends, I plan on re-enlisting and going to the special satellite operations course that is 17 weeks that my MOS can attend. I've went to AIT for 35 weeks and learned the basics of my job, but the 1C course is more advanced. You can get jobs starting at over 90,000 with that kind of free training right out of the army, but I'm planning on doing 20 years myself. That's not something I was planning before I joined. After a few weeks at basic I pretty much realized I wanted to keep going for 20 years straight. It brings me more happiness than I could have realized.
Despite not being combat arms, there are many opportunities to go to specialized schools and to get deployed around the world. I plan on becoming a Warrant Officer myself, and hope to finish a technical degree in signal technology within a couple years. All college courses you take while in are paid for, and don't even effect your GI bill for when you get out. I could potentially get a full masters degree while I'm in, and will still have the GI bill to do whatever I want with when I get out.
Since you've done some college, consider going officer. If that's not available to you at the time of enlistment, make sure to ask for every bonus available. I made the mistake of not asking for enlistment bonuses. I got no bonus, but people who came in to my same MOS 4 months later were getting a $40,000 sign on bonus.
You're a smart dude MM, have you taken an ASVAB yet? If you score under a 120 for your GT score, study for it online and re-do it, because you should have no trouble at all scoring above that. Your options are much bigger with a higher GT score than anything else. I started getting offers for other MOS's right off the bat, straight out of AIT because of a high GT score, including stuff like Military Intelligence for Special Forces units, helicopter piloting and even advanced electronics courses. I enjoy my MOS for the time being though, which is great. I lucked out picking it, because I had no idea what I was doing when I chose it.
Solid advice. I'd keep my profession to myself in an online drug forum though. PERSEC, ya dig?
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The world would be better off without this mess, but its not going away any time soon

Yeah, that post was so difficult to understand wasn't it?
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I don't see you guys joining the military. Do you guys support all the wars in the middle east that cause nothing but more and more problems? Some wars are necessary, but we could avoid most if we acted more responsible and less aggressively. The military spending is also astronomical. Anybody with moderate intelligence can see that the military is mostly wasteful and destructive. If that is what you want to do with your life then go ahead, but I think it is a bad idea.
Most people that I knew before and after joining the army ended up being a little mentally ill to just completely crazy. I will admit I don't know that many soldiers though.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Lophosaurus]
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If there was no military, would there be no war?
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Mostly smaller local wars I would guess. Then larger wars when there was a good reason to fight. The more people that stay out of the military worldwide, the better off we will be. Of course this is just my opinion, I'm no military expert.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Lophosaurus]
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Lophosaurus said: I don't see you guys joining the military. Do you guys support all the wars in the middle east that cause nothing but more and more problems? Some wars are necessary, but we could avoid most if we acted more responsible and less aggressively. The military spending is also astronomical. Anybody with moderate intelligence can see that the military is mostly wasteful and destructive. If that is what you want to do with your life then go ahead, but I think it is a bad idea.
Most people that I knew before and after joining the army ended up being a little mentally ill to just completely crazy. I will admit I don't know that many soldiers though.
Your first statement doesn't make sense, the military isn't starving for recruits.
Do those wars cause nothing but problems? Possibly, there's more going on in the geo-political scene than any of us could know.
Most of the vets I've known are doing fine, some aren't, which is why you shouldn't join for money.
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Same here. I was looking into marine aviation because the promoter told me that they're usually the first into combat. Once I hit 17 years old I realized that I'd probably be too tall to fit in a cockpit. Also, the odds of actually getting to fly are pretty low from what I hear.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Skellies]
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PeyoteZen said: Would you be Maverick or Goose?
I still haven't seen top gun yet but I'm gonna go with Goose.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse]
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What are your military credentials Hostile? How about everything you say is correct? Do you have any content to add that might change my mind?
Repertoire, my point was that a lot of people are pro-military, but they would never join. They just jump on the "support the troops" bandwagon. I guess I should have explained myself better. I know they aren't starving for troops because there are tons of dumb/desperate people who will risk their life for "freedom," by that I mean fighting for other people's resources. I'm mostly referring to the recent wars. No matter what we do in the middle east it will remain a mess or get worse. They need to fix it themselves
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Lophosaurus]
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Repertoire, my point was that a lot of people are pro-military, but they would never join. They just jump on the "support the troops" bandwagon. I guess I should have explained myself better. I know they aren't starving for troops because there are tons of dumb/desperate people who will risk their life for "freedom," by that I mean fighting for other people's resources. I'm mostly referring to the recent wars. No matter what we do in the middle east it will remain a mess or get worse. They need to fix it themselves
I'd consider joining if we were in a major war, don't have an opinion on the merit behind these wars, though I usually think they're bullshit, on other hand they could be necessary to protect ourselves geo-politically. There's a reason Russia is freaking out over Syria, what's bad for our enemies may be good for us.
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trees said: Do you think you could handle it?

Y'all ever seen those g force tests?.. Pretty cray cray
Hey op if u want to get ready for boot camp just tell everyone U know to start talking shit to u, in fact u should make a thread in OTD about all ur most embarrassing moments and even post pics of urself and ur friends, and just let everyone have a go at u..
U can also probs sleep on the streets for a couple days just to get used to the trash if u know what I mean..
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: PatrickKn]
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PatrickKn said: Hey MM, I'm in the Army currently. It was a wise decision for myself, and I genuinely enjoy it more than anything I've done in the past. I'm a Satellite Operator. If you're interested in computer sciences, consider a job in signal related fields - specifically satellite operations. Likewise, look into geospatial engineering, or signals intelligence analyst. I'm not telling you to pick them necessarily, but do read all about them before making a decision.
Don't get an MOS that you already have in the bag from college. Use the military to your advantage to learn a new set of skills that you don't already know, not to put something you already know into practice. You can put what you know into practice when you get out. I guess what I'm trying to say is don't go for computer science based MOS's if you've already gone to college for that. There are more advanced MOS's you can get into that will incorporate bits of that but have more room for growth and development of additional skills.
When my first enlistment ends, I plan on re-enlisting and going to the special satellite operations course that is 17 weeks that my MOS can attend. I've went to AIT for 35 weeks and learned the basics of my job, but the 1C course is more advanced. You can get jobs starting at over 90,000 with that kind of free training right out of the army, but I'm planning on doing 20 years myself. That's not something I was planning before I joined. After a few weeks at basic I pretty much realized I wanted to keep going for 20 years straight. It brings me more happiness than I could have realized.
Despite not being combat arms, there are many opportunities to go to specialized schools and to get deployed around the world. I plan on becoming a Warrant Officer myself, and hope to finish a technical degree in signal technology within a couple years. All college courses you take while in are paid for, and don't even effect your GI bill for when you get out. I could potentially get a full masters degree while I'm in, and will still have the GI bill to do whatever I want with when I get out.
Since you've done some college, consider going officer. If that's not available to you at the time of enlistment, make sure to ask for every bonus available. I made the mistake of not asking for enlistment bonuses. I got no bonus, but people who came in to my same MOS 4 months later were getting a $40,000 sign on bonus.
You're a smart dude MM, have you taken an ASVAB yet? If you score under a 120 for your GT score, study for it online and re-do it, because you should have no trouble at all scoring above that. Your options are much bigger with a higher GT score than anything else. I started getting offers for other MOS's right off the bat, straight out of AIT because of a high GT score, including stuff like Military Intelligence for Special Forces units, helicopter piloting and even advanced electronics courses. I enjoy my MOS for the time being though, which is great. I lucked out picking it, because I had no idea what I was doing when I chose it.
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Judging by your current understanding of what the military does and doesn't do, and by your comprehension of this thread; probably not
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse]
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Good luck Mouse. I was in your same position and was talking to recruiters about AF officer school because I couldn't find a job. Landed a pretty good gig here in atlanta by complete chance and said fuuuuuck the military. I'm definitely not military material.
If you really believe its your only option, go for it. For what I've gathered though you seem talented in multiple areas..I wouldn't waste that on the military
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Judging by your current understanding of what the military does and doesn't do, and by your comprehension of this thread; probably not
I just read through your posts and didn't see your credentials. Am I missing something? What are they again?
I understand what the military does just fine. They're creating strategic chaos in the middle east for $$$$. The point of the thread was a discussion on MM joining the airforce. Or was it to find someone with a different view than you and attack them because you think they are a hippy and are different than you.
You still haven't provided any content, right now your arguments are those of a 10 year old.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Lophosaurus]
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Thanks Patrick! Loph and Malcolm i appreciate the input.
Im going head first into this. It wont eat me alive
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse]
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Good Luck then!!! I hope you get whatever you're looking for.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Lophosaurus] 1
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Lophosaurus said: Do something to make the world a better place instead
I see the idealism in your words, being an idealist myself, but unfortunately jobs that help 'make the world a better place' are few and far between, and those that there are are not that stable in availability or pay. If MM wants something solid, that he can depend upon should he decide he wants to follow through with it, then the direction he's heading is probably a good one.
I would never join the military either, as it goes against everything I stand for, but I never imagined I'd end up working for the banks either, who also go against everything I stand for, and are very likely even more evil than the military. But I got drawn in by the huge wages they pay, even for someone with a strictly IT background like MM and myself. The only difference between the financial and military sectors, on the IT side, is that the military would likely not replace you with cheap, offshore Indian labour and give you fuck all for for the 9 years you've dedicated to them, which is exactly what they'd be doing to me soon had I not made the choice to fuck off first.
So yeah, if you feel like it's the right thing for you MM, I wish you all the best with it man. I think Dark_Star has sound advice, but I understand if you can't spare a year. Time is prescious.
As an aside, I'm friends with an ex paratrooper and have know a few others that served, although many years ago. It sounds like hard work, but he talks about his time served with reverence and respect. I for one would never be able to deal with orders and rank and doing things in a regimented manner, but as long as you think you can hack that without kicking back against it and getting yourself in the shit all the time (one of my mates spent a whole bunch of his time enlisted in military jail, but he still says it was the best thing for him at that time in his life), then you'll be good mate. I think there's little doubt you would come out of it a much wiser and more experienced human.
Here's to changing shit up FTW!
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Ah, I worked part time for a bank doing IT work, and I can say with certainty that they are just as evil as the military 
I don't have an ego so the pecking order shit really won't bother me... Though I see how many would not be ok with it whatsoever. Regarding the ethics, i'm still hazy on it all but I do know that ive always believed a willingness to change ones opinion is important and not a bad thing.
I need the structure, I am willing to sacrafice civilian life for strong self improvement
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I see the idealism in your words, being an idealist myself, but unfortunately jobs that help 'make the world a better place' are few and far between,
That's far from true, any job which contributes to society without some resounding negative drawback is making the world a better place. The department of agriculture is pretty large and the US would be a wasteland without it.
Hate to say it but working with the banks isn't one of those jobs
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Repertoire89]
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Hmmm. I guess we'd have to definite what would make a job one which is helping make the world a better place. Aside of charities and non-profits, I can't think of any.
I mean, if there's a rich bloke at the top of the organisation getting paid loads, I can't see how it could be something which makes the world a better place. I don't count agriculture as such (even though I'm going into it), unless it's some business with a massive drive on sustainability and low environmental impact. AFAIK, not many agricultural businesses focus on this.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse] 1
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ive heard a lot of people say they wanna go into the military before.
ive seen a lot less actually do it.
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Jokeshopbeard said: Hmmm. I guess we'd have to definite what would make a job one which is helping make the world a better place. Aside of charities and non-profits, I can't think of any.
I mean, if there's a rich bloke at the top of the organisation getting paid loads, I can't see how it could be something which makes the world a better place. I don't count agriculture as such (even though I'm going into it), unless it's some business with a massive drive on sustainability and low environmental impact. AFAIK, not many agricultural businesses focus on this.
Working for the Devil is making you jaded 
I'm more suspicious of charities and non-profits which often turn up to be serving some questionable political end, raking in profits under the table, or operating in such a manner that their contribution is questionable. Doctors, firefighters, engineers and the people keeping everyone fed are another story, their contributions tend to be obvious.
Your impact is a personal decision in any case, corruption runs rampant everywhere, even in the department of agriculture there are people who serve the public interests and people who get in the way.
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0.4% of Americans Serve in some capacity. 1 in 200. I'd say there are more Shroomerites in the military than let on. There is a lot of talk about joining from people who never will though. Also, a lot of "oh, you're in the military? I was going to,serve, but... (insert gimicky excuse here)".
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse]
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Lophosaurus said: Do something to make the world a better place instead
I see the idealism in your words, being an idealist myself, but unfortunately jobs that help 'make the world a better place' are few and far between, and those that there are are not that stable in availability or pay. If MM wants something solid, that he can depend upon should he decide he wants to follow through with it, then the direction he's heading is probably a good one.
They aren't few and far between. I'll name some random ones as they pop into my head
Builder Electrician Doctor X-ray tech Delivery Driver City planner Accountant Some Lawyers are ok Landscaper Daycare provider Trucker Engineer Programmer
They all pay well and are in high demand. Military propaganda makes people want to join. They don't show the PSTD soldiers, rape, or the innocent families being killed on the TV commercials. We kill them, then they get revenge, then we get revenge, then they get revenge, and when does it stop? If he wants to kill and destroy families, then yeah it is a good choice. Its not the only work available. If he wants a solid job he can do any of the jobs I listed.
If it seems like I'm looking for an argument, I'm not. Just sharing my view. As a whole I think humans are past the point of no return anyways. The world is chaotic with or without the army so I don't really care if people join. I always share my view on this topic because it is unpopular and I think a lot of people join without really thinking about what they are getting into so I like to think I might be helping them stay out somehow.
If I were to join, I would try to get on the team that tests new weapons and tech. Is there a better army gig than that.
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Yeah man I was in JROTC in high school and was seriously considering joining the military or police force. The biggest reason I didn't go into the military is because of the time I spent in the psych ward. My life would be very different if I had went. I would be very different. I don't regret not going. I regret what I did instead. And I regret our country not having better foreign policy.
But I was most interested in joining the Air Force if not the Army. Air Force has alot of really unique really sweet jobs. Pilots aren't the only ones that get to have fun.
You gotta be careful though. Chances are you'll end up working with really big machines. I know a dude that was in the USAF that had an elevator fall on him while he was cleaning out the shaft lift thing (I have no idea what it was but he was under the elevator on the ground floor) and thankfully the safety mechanism on it kept it from completely crushing him but he's still kinda fucked up for life. He's not the only one I know to be seriously injured doing normal jobs in the military.
So yeah. Stay focused and keep safe while you're out there. Granted that will be a while. You're going to be doing months of training and ass kicking first.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Lophosaurus]
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Well the thing about all those jobs you listed is you can't just go and enlist into the corps of doctors or lawyers.
He's considering the option because he feels he doesn't have much else going for him. And you know not everything the military does involves killing or war. I've known plenty of people to join the military and really turn their life around (particularly when they have a history with drugs.) It isn't an easy job and it changes you but you don't HAVE to go into combat. Especially in the Air Force. Very few USAF soldiers ever go into combat. Either directly or remotely. Most jobs in the USAF revolve around maintaining equipment and maintaining people.
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Lophosaurus said: Do something to make the world a better place instead
I see the idealism in your words, being an idealist myself, but unfortunately jobs that help 'make the world a better place' are few and far between, and those that there are are not that stable in availability or pay. If MM wants something solid, that he can depend upon should he decide he wants to follow through with it, then the direction he's heading is probably a good one.
They aren't few and far between. I'll name some random ones as they pop into my head
Builder Electrician Doctor X-ray tech Delivery Driver City planner Accountant Some Lawyers are ok Landscaper Daycare provider Trucker Engineer Programmer
They all pay well and are in high demand. Military propaganda makes people want to join. They don't show the PSTD soldiers, rape, or the innocent families being killed on the TV commercials. We kill them, then they get revenge, then we get revenge, then they get revenge, and when does it stop? If he wants to kill and destroy families, then yeah it is a good choice. Its not the only work available. If he wants a solid job he can do any of the jobs I listed.
If it seems like I'm looking for an argument, I'm not. Just sharing my view. As a whole I think humans are past the point of no return anyways. The world is chaotic with or without the army so I don't really care if people join. I always share my view on this topic because it is unpopular and I think a lot of people join without really thinking about what they are getting into so I like to think I might be helping them stay out somehow.
If I were to join, I would try to get on the team that tests new weapons and tech. Is there a better army gig than that.
The hippie wants to test the new weapons to kill people.
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It's something every American considers at some point during their youth because it's extensively promoted to them. Then reality hits and they reconsider their options. Military service is great for some people but others would be more happy elsewhere. Not to mention this administration's instruction to draw down personnel. Trying to get a waiver for medical conditions is almost impossible whereas ten years ago it would have been easy.
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CookieCrumbs said: Well the thing about all those jobs you listed is you can't just go and enlist into the corps of doctors or lawyers.
He's considering the option because he feels he doesn't have much else going for him. And you know not everything the military does involves killing or war. I've known plenty of people to join the military and really turn their life around (particularly when they have a history with drugs.) It isn't an easy job and it changes you but you don't HAVE to go into combat. Especially in the Air Force. Very few USAF soldiers ever go into combat. Either directly or remotely. Most jobs in the USAF revolve around maintaining equipment and maintaining people.
You CAN just sign up for some of those jobs. Some require minimal schooling and some a lot of school. All easily attainable. How else would people get these jobs? That comment was directed towards Jokeshop anyways, not MM. MM sounds like he already made up his mind to join.
I know that everyone who enlists doesn't actually pull the trigger. They work as a team to do it, so it is just as bad in my eyes.
Wow, California, I can't believe how clever that comment is. I wouldn't join, but if I had to, then yeah that would be a cool job. Modestmouse should go for that job or something that teaches him a skill that he could use in the civilian world.
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Lophosaurus said: Joining the military is a horrible idea. The world doesn't need more war. Do something to make the world a better place instead of killing people for resources and religious beliefs
Shut up, hippy.

telling him to shut up, because he's a pacifist is so not shroomy.
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CookieCrumbs said: Well the thing about all those jobs you listed is you can't just go and enlist into the corps of doctors or lawyers.
He's considering the option because he feels he doesn't have much else going for him. And you know not everything the military does involves killing or war. I've known plenty of people to join the military and really turn their life around (particularly when they have a history with drugs.) It isn't an easy job and it changes you but you don't HAVE to go into combat. Especially in the Air Force. Very few USAF soldiers ever go into combat. Either directly or remotely. Most jobs in the USAF revolve around maintaining equipment and maintaining people.
You CAN just sign up for some of those jobs. Some require minimal schooling and some a lot of school. All easily attainable. How else would people get these jobs? That comment was directed towards Jokeshop anyways, not MM. MM sounds like he already made up his mind to join.
I know that everyone who enlists doesn't actually pull the trigger. They work as a team to do it, so it is just as bad in my eyes.
Wow, California, I can't believe how clever that comment is. I wouldn't join, but if I had to, then yeah that would be a cool job. Modestmouse should go for that job or something that teaches him a skill that he could use in the civilian world.
Well, killer, if you would join, what job would you sign up for.
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Are you on drugs? I just said it two times. I would be the guys who tests new weapons and technology.
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That is if you had to, not if you would join, there is a difference.
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You would be more than one guy?
There is something he isn't telling us. Maybe he is a mutant who can multiply himself. That's some X-Men and X-Files stuff.
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You would be more than one guy?
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California said: That is if you had to, not if you would join, there is a difference.
I'm not sure what the difference is, but I think I made it pretty clear already. It's not going to happen anyways so who cares. Your comments are empty, I made my point, and now I'm exiting the thread.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Lophosaurus]
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Lophosaurus said: You CAN just sign up for some of those jobs.
I know that everyone who enlists doesn't actually pull the trigger.
Just to clarify, in the Army (don't know about AF or Navy) your primary role is rifleman regardless of your MOS. You can be caught up in an ambush anyways and your MOS doesn't matter at that point, I've also heard of people having their MOS changed involuntarily.
In any case the military is no more dangerous than many civilian jobs (more military deaths happen during "accidents" than in combat), logging is the most dangerous industry in America.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Repertoire89]
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I know that everyone who enlists doesn't actually pull the trigger.
Just to clarify, in the Army (don't know about AF or Navy) your primary role is rifleman regardless of your MOS. You can be caught up in an ambush anyways and your MOS doesn't matter at that point, I've also heard of people having their MOS changed involuntarily.
In any case the military is no more dangerous than many civilian jobs (more military deaths happen during "accidents" than in combat), logging is the most dangerous industry in America.
It isn't the same in the NAVY.
When people have their MOS changed involuntarilly it often has to do with a changing/closing/combining of an MOS, or it has to do with billeting, which is how many people they project to need for any and all MOS.
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why do people insist that X'ing social programs is a good idea for a tax break...yet, -- though they are against globalism -- they don't want to X any of the overblown military budget, for a tax break; when without expansion into globalism the military is a glorified police service (which is a social service, by the by)
it's a rhetorical question, but i think a poignant one. i mean, people have to levy taxes to fund and invest in society's care within these budgetary constraints, unless there is no need for taxes at all (which is certainly a farce, because we can all agree a well-funded society is a better society). so why be afraid of social programs creating a burdensome tax levy...but yet an overblown military budget is A-OK , even if it creates a burdensome levy?
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Incorrect. What I said does happen. Have a shroomy day, ignorant one.
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akira_akuma said: why do people insist that X'ing social programs is a good idea for a tax break...yet, -- though they are against globalism -- they don't want to X any of the overblown military budget, for a tax break; when without expansion into globalism the military is a glorified police service (which is a social service, by the by)
it's a rhetorical question, but i think a poignant one. i mean, people have to levy taxes to fund and invest in society's care within these budgetary constraints, unless there is no need for taxes at all (which is certainly a farce, because we can all agree a well-funded society is a better society). so why be afraid of social programs creating a burdensome tax levy...but yet an overblown military budget is A-OK , even if it creates a burdensome levy?
Because here in the United States, we have a relatively short, but rich history of war. It is pretty much always acceptable to be able to defend ourselves and attack others in our culture. We aren't afraid of paying for social programs so much as we are afraid to not fund a military budget, whatever it may be.
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You clearly do not. I am not saying what you said does not happen, but what I said is also accurate. Don't go getting butt hurt about it, small-minded ignorant.
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*separation You cannot even spell a simple word, nodoby here should believe you have a full grasp of what you think you know, illiterate.
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 Okay. MOS's just get eliminated every day. My bad. Here I was not realizing that the Army's MOS structure was so fluid. Oh, because it isn't. Soldiers change MOS due to the reasons I listed every day. EXACTLY how often is an MOS completely eliminated? You're the butthurt one, but idgaf. I'm done arguing over idiotic shit.
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Okay, good job catching an autocorrect mistake. I'm on a phone. Based on your attitude, I'm going to assume you're a fake, or a POG. Either way, I don't have time for it.
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How much butt sex can a moderately attractive recruit expect to have?
What are the best hook up/cruising spots ?
How many orgies can be expected and what branch of the armed services has the best power bottoms ?
My best friends brother in law is a hardcore army wilderness survival instructor. Left him alone with my best friend for like an hour and he fucked the shit out of him.
When they leave you in the woods for a week with nothing but half an onion you learn pretty quick not to waste protein.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Moonshoe]
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Moonshoe said: How much butt sex can a moderately attractive recruit expect to have?
What are the best hook up/cruising spots ?
How many orgies can be expected and what branch of the armed services has the best power bottoms ?
My best friends brother in law is a hardcore army wilderness survival instructor. Left him alone with my best friend for like an hour and he fucked the shit out of him.
When they leave you in the woods for a week with nothing but half an onion you learn pretty quick not to waste protein.
especially at the second last paragraph.
Is that true?
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Let the butthurt flow. It was not an autocorrect mistake. You are illiterate and ignorant. You, LOL.
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 Okay. MOS's just get eliminated every day. My bad. Here I was not realizing that the Army's MOS structure was so fluid. Oh, because it isn't. Soldiers change MOS due to the reasons I listed every day. EXACTLY how often is an MOS completely eliminated? You're the butthurt one, but idgaf. I'm done arguing over idiotic shit.
I never said it happens every day, it happens though. Great job of further displaying your butt hurt and ignorance.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: BANANA.MAN]
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it's a rhetorical question, but i think a poignant one. i mean, people have to levy taxes to fund and invest in society's care within these budgetary constraints, unless there is no need for taxes at all (which is certainly a farce, because we can all agree a well-funded society is a better society). so why be afraid of social programs creating a burdensome tax levy...but yet an overblown military budget is A-OK , even if it creates a burdensome levy?
Because here in the United States, we have a relatively short, but rich history of war. It is pretty much always acceptable to be able to defend ourselves and attack others in our culture. We aren't afraid of paying for social programs so much as we are afraid to not fund a military budget, whatever it may be.
I'd say most people, when they hear the figures, are not A-OK with military spending. But the US spends rediculous amounts of money on other things. You know Medicare pays almost twice as much as they need to on penis pumps to treat ED? Yes it's covered by Medicare and yes the government spends 10 bucks when they could spend 6.
I think government spending as a whole could be cut back. But then if it were how could we sneak 2 billion dollars to terrorist nations? Which i think was actually sent in pounds and... Euros? Some other foreign currency just to say we didn't give Iran billions of American dollars.
Definitely don't blame the soldiers for that. I think when the time comes alot of US military and vets will support a revolution. It is they and their friends that pay the most with the country's deplorable and deceitful decisions. You're goddamn right I'll support the troops. I don't think there's ever been a true revolution that wasn't backed by military. Our government knows this too and that's supposedly why they started sacking high ranking officers and generals that might not support their corrupt bullshit.
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I definitely didn't see anyone blaming soldiers in your quote.
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That's why I hit enter and bumped the last paragraph down. Wasn't responding to the quote. Was more of a general statement to other things said within the thread.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: California]
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California said: When people have their MOS changed involuntarilly it often has to do with a changing/closing/combining of an MOS, or it has to do with billeting, which is how many people they project to need for any and all MOS.
I never said it happens every day, it happens though. Great job of further displaying your butt hurt and ignorance.
Yeah, when the military downsizes there are going to be MOS's downsizing as well, those are the circumstances I was referring to since the size of our military has fluctuated a few times the past 20 years. Some MOS's may just become obsolete but who knows how often that happens.
Anyways I've never been in, happily, was mostly just pointing out that you have to be prepared to fight if you're going to join the Army, being a truck driver won't stop the bullets, rockets and IEDs. There are more dangerous jobs, but its not a place for pacifists.
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You actually got so butthurt that you have me a 0 shroom rating and called ME smallminded? I didn't even do anything to you. WTF is wrong with you.
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I wish I would have. I could have used the discipline. The only reason I didn't was because I liked smoking weed. 
I still regret it to this day all my friends who did join up are leading very good lives. There are a ton of things I wish I could go back and redo.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse]
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Its not too late to join a real branch like Army or the Marine Corps, lest ye be labled POG the rest of your life
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Also an update: I scored a 97 on my ASVAB (entry exam), so i can pick any career to pursue!
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Don't you have a college degree? You're going into an officer program right? Never enlist in the military if you have a college degree.
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Im trying for officer but they are telling me a 3.5 is required and i had a 3.2
The salary gap is massive though so im gonna push hard for it
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If you can do the officer program, don't do it at all.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: koods]
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Its not so black and white The recruiter tells me if i do a year as an enlistee i have a great chance of moving to officer
Its called the dual track
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I'm not military but even I know you never trust a recruiter. Talk to someone impartial and get things in writing before you sign off on their words.
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 He's not saying it's impossible for me to join as an officer hes just saying there's a chance it won't happen. He's being realistic, and I appreciate that.
I will get anything he "promises" me in writing.
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I mean why the airforce tho? Do you have a boner for that stuff or do you really feel that is your only option?
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I seek to improve my mental fortitude, specifically my ability to plan and follow through on said plans. I like the idea of getting away from my parents, having my housing and food paid for, and exercising regularly. Not to mention getting a masters degree in computer science, paid for by them (my service).
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse] 1
#23795008 - 11/02/16 04:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Meh those don't sound like good reasons to me, but who am I to say. I was going to enlist solely on my lust for foreign blood so I'm not one to take advice from.
I mean a computer engineer sounds so far from what I think of as a soldier, I imagine you would be better off working for a corporation who gets programming contracts from the military as well as the private sector. When you join the military you are being owned, and that isn't going to mean that all your bad habits go away, it just means that when you fuck up you've really fucked up.
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Well i've done some soul-searching and discovered that the root of my bad habits is boredom and a lack of hope in the future. When I made up my mind to pursue this path I have felt insanely better about my future, and when I am enlisted I will not be bored.
It all works out in the end, and my reasons are plenty for me. MOST soldiers (especially air force) don't see action these days, so I think joining specifically to kill people is shortsighted/sick but we can agree to disagree
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse]
#23795034 - 11/02/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey if I'm going to be killing I want to taste the blood in the air. I think being able to kill someone and not have it be visceral is the real danger.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse]
#23795040 - 11/02/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If u have the will to actually go through with this then that alone shows u have dicipline.. Just sayin..
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: zZZz] 1
#23795045 - 11/02/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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no that shows he is impulsive, just sayin
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Impulsive or following through on something that will benefit me thoroughly?
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: zZZz]
#23795060 - 11/02/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse] 1
#23795074 - 11/02/16 04:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Impulsive, definitely.
Maybe it will work out for you. I certainly wouldn't hold it against you. As much admiration as I have for soldiers I would not want to be one right now. Getting flown into some country on coach then being beholden to the US Military at every given moment just isn't a job I want. I mean you don't realize how dumb it is to take a job that you can't easily leave. You are literally throwing up your hands and selling out, which I can understand, but I think it is a mistake for you. You have too much going already, and are suffer from stress or depression or something and just want out.
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Na bro, this thread has been going for a few days now, its way past impulsive now, now it's commitment.. Just sayin..
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: zZZz]
#23795084 - 11/02/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse]
#23795093 - 11/02/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: Well i've done some soul-searching and discovered that the root of my bad habits is boredom and a lack of hope in the future. When I made up my mind to pursue this path I have felt insanely better about my future, and when I am enlisted I will not be bored.
It all works out in the end, and my reasons are plenty for me. MOST soldiers (especially air force) don't see action these days, so I think joining specifically to kill people is shortsighted/sick but we can agree to disagree
From what I've seen, the military doesn't improve anyone's life, some people use it as a catalyst to improve but as I understand it, its the amount of effort they put in which makes that happen. That effort could be applied to civilian life just as well.
Its something to keep in mind, especially when you're finished with the military, you'll have to fill the void of all that structure and (hopefully) purpose yourself.
Just to be clear, I'm not arguing against joining, only pointing out that a lot of vets work in fastfood, don't stop looking for purpose when you're in or when you're out.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse] 1
#23795130 - 11/02/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Air Force or Navy is the way to go for sure. You dont want to be part of the Poor Bloody Infantry sucking depleted uranium dust in fucking Baghdad waiting to step on an IED.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse]
#23795188 - 11/02/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: Its not so black and white The recruiter tells me if i do a year as an enlistee i have a great chance of moving to officer
Its called the dual track
Why not try and go straight for officer school if you already have a bachelors?
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He already answered that man
Come on man
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Moonshoe]
#23795205 - 11/02/16 05:03 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I didn't feel like going back and reading somebody gimme the TLDR
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He cant join officer school because he hates you
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Moonshoe]
#23795211 - 11/02/16 05:06 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's unfortunate
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He tried to join but they said he's too fat, now he's been going hard on the drink and showing up late to his dishwashing job
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Repertoire89]
#23795220 - 11/02/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ah found it. GPA issue. I had the same problem. I needed like a 3.5 and had a 3.0.
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You were going to join the military?
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Repertoire89]
#23795280 - 11/02/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: He tried to join but they said he's too fat, now he's been going hard on the drink and showing up late to his dishwashing job
MM is a string bean
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You should have went dual track. That is where they rape you in the ass but they sweet talk you first.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: koods] 1
#23795293 - 11/02/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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koods said: You were going to join the military?
Yes. Goddamnit Koods you never listen to me. We talked about this in chat
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Sometimes u guys talk for a day without me looking and I don't go and read everything that was said
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: koods]
#23795309 - 11/02/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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But yeah after I lost my research job I was having trouble finding work so I looked into joining officer school bc my dad was being a dick
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: ModestMouse]
#23820022 - 11/10/16 02:47 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I got a 120.
Suck it
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Well, a 99 is the maximum, so no. Also, the ASVAB is outrageously easy. A well trained howler monkey could max it out.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Enjoywho]
#23821436 - 11/10/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I plan on joining the Navy when I turn 18 next month.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: PumpJackTeX]
#23821589 - 11/10/16 11:57 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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TexXx said: I plan on joining the Navy when I turn 18 next month.
What's the attraction?
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: PumpJackTeX]
#23822617 - 11/11/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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TexXx said: I plan on joining the Navy when I turn 18 next month.
??? I thought you were in your 20's? Hope all is well there In CO springs.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: PumpJackTeX]
#23822764 - 11/11/16 11:46 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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TexXx said: I plan on joining the Navy when I turn 18 next month.
Whoops
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Moonshoe]
#23822959 - 11/11/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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TexXx said: I plan on joining the Navy when I turn 18 next month.
Whoops 
He's still in. I met him a couple months ago in CO. Springs. He was pretty laid back and excited about moving to CO. I could have sworn he was 20 something, I'm pretty sure he mentioned it, but not 100%. He might just be fooling around.
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Pretty ball z to join up with a Republican regime in power. They start all the modern wars.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: PumpJackTeX]
#23823014 - 11/11/16 01:08 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok first of all you registered when you were 10? Is this someone else account that you took over.
Also people just quoted you saying that you arent 18 yet. i hope you didnt blend in since you were 10 only to be banned a month before you turn 18 lmfao that would suck.
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: BANANA.MAN] 2
#23823142 - 11/11/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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He shit posted through a wormhole, dudes actually shit posting from two hours into the future
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Re: I'm going into the Air Force [Re: Repertoire89]
#23823152 - 11/11/16 02:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: He shit posted through a wormhole, dudes actually shit posting from two hours into the future
Epic. I wonder how much acid you need to achieve that feat...
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Repertoire89 said: He shit posted through a wormhole, dudes actually shit posting from two hours into the future
Who me?
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Repertoire89 said: He shit posted through a wormhole, dudes actually shit posting from two hours into the future
Epic. I wonder how much acid you need to achieve that feat...
You need to do a thumnprint but from Anasnte's anus.
It is a sacred ritual. Partaking is considered a great honor.
Anyway modest when are you acctually joining?
You did opiates not too long ago i wouldnt go rushing into it.
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