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Re: mushboys 'cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Samalander] * 1
    #25802727 - 02/09/19 11:34 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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I can only find one specification for a dehidrator about the tray height-it says 3 cm (1,18 inches). Is that a standard? it seems to me  that is not enough. I dont want to waste money,so my question is-Is 3 cm enough tray height? or is it better to find one with higher trays?



if worried some models u can turn every other tray over to create twice the height.Also remove racks in the side load style.


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Re: mushboys 'cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Viridis]
    #25803237 - 02/10/19 09:27 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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So psilocybin should be stable at 170 f drying temperature, what about psilocin? So is it recommended for all mushrooms...even those high in psilocin?

Just curious i grew cubensis years ago, i used the fan dry followed by desiccant chamber back then because it was recommended.



In a solution psilocin degradation is limited by the amount O2 in that solution so I don't think drying temperature would have much effect on it's degradation although it it may have an effect on how much psilocybin is enzymatically converted into psilocin. It's during long-term storage (months) that temperature may make a difference, not the <24 hours in a dehydrator.


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Re: mushboys 'cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Kizzle]
    #25803249 - 02/10/19 09:38 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: mushboy]
    #25925477 - 04/09/19 05:30 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I bet it was the environment and the ziploc bag that was the problem. How could mushrooms magically get bendable after getting them cracker dry? The reason they would snap is because there's no moisture in them lol. This doesn't make any sense to me 🤔..


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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Shenmue]
    #25925479 - 04/09/19 05:32 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Because after shorter drying times they were not truly cracked dry.


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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: mushboy]
    #25925502 - 04/09/19 05:44 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I guess I'll keep my mushrooms in a bag for a week just to make sure there dry before I vacuum seal them. Better to be safe than sorry. Thanks for the info 👍..


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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Shenmue] * 1
    #25925510 - 04/09/19 05:47 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Mushrooms snapping and mushrooms being crushed into dust with your fingers are different things.


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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #25925781 - 04/09/19 08:29 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

It seems the better test vessel after drying would be something that doesn't allow moisture ingress.


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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: LadysKnight]
    #25925804 - 04/09/19 08:43 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I've had a 2L freezer bag full of mushrooms on top of the fridge and the bag wasn't even closed, just folded over.
The mushrooms remained cracker dry because humidity was practically zero on top of the fridge I measured it.
So instead of focusing on vacuum sealing or using dessicants it's better to just store the bags in a dry place :shrug:


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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Mateja]
    #25964537 - 04/30/19 02:54 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Omg everything mushboy said is true! I dried half my mushrooms at 110f for 36 hours and the other half for 2 days. I just checked them after a week and a half in a bag and every single mushroom is bending! Everything seemed cracker dry at the time but I guess it actually wasn't 😳. So even after 2 days 110f didn't get the job done. I just put them back in the dehydrator and turned it up to 160f. Thanks for the post mushboy!


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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Shenmue]
    #25964569 - 04/30/19 03:11 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

For those who were recommending vacuum sealing in this thread... I bought a vacuum sealer and a dehydrator the same week, and the dehydrator is a miracle (vs. my oven's dehydrate setting - bod was right as usual on that account), but have been having trouble with the vacuum sealer. Because the shrooms are indeed cracker dry, the vacuum sealer ends up breaking them and the ensuing dust makes for a bad seal that doesn't hold. Anyone else have this problem? How do you get around it? Some of it might be that most of the shrooms were small and so cracked easily, but hopefully someone has a better idea than just putting all the small ones in mason jars with desiccant packets instead (which is what I'm doing for the moment).


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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Durgin]
    #25964578 - 04/30/19 03:15 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

How about making the bags bigger so you have more room lol. Maybe your vacuum sealer is junk?


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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Durgin]
    #25964594 - 04/30/19 03:25 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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For those who were recommending vacuum sealing in this thread... I bought a vacuum sealer and a dehydrator the same week, and the dehydrator is a miracle (vs. my oven's dehydrate setting - bod was right as usual on that account), but have been having trouble with the vacuum sealer. Because the shrooms are indeed cracker dry, the vacuum sealer ends up breaking them and the ensuing dust makes for a bad seal that doesn't hold. Anyone else have this problem? How do you get around it? Some of it might be that most of the shrooms were small and so cracked easily, but hopefully someone has a better idea than just putting all the small ones in mason jars with desiccant packets instead (which is what I'm doing for the moment).



Press the seal button before it crushes them:shrug: i do the same thing when vacuuming pounds of bud, u want to seel it before it sucks too tight


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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Shenmue]
    #25964595 - 04/30/19 03:27 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

This is the sealer:

https://www.amazon.com/Machine-Mueller-Automatic-Preservation-Indicator/dp/B07J2SR7YT?

And, uh, isn't the whole point of a vacuum sealer that it makes the bags smaller on its own? So... Not sure how larger bags would help. They weren't over-filled.


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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Durgin]
    #25964597 - 04/30/19 03:28 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Also just seal it twice if your not getting a good seal


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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: SFS96]
    #25964602 - 04/30/19 03:30 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Also just seal it twice if your not getting a good seal




Yeah tried that but the mushroom dust was basically everywhere so the second didn't help. Will try your first suggestion (stopping the vacuum early) and see if that helps.


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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Durgin]
    #25964609 - 04/30/19 03:35 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

It should help I deal with a lot of bud and sometimes the bags get shake on them and won’t seal well so I’ll leave them on the sealer and seal the same spot 2 or 3 times and let it sit till it cools them unlach the sealer:thumbup:


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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Durgin]
    #25964677 - 04/30/19 04:18 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

No wonder its not working. If you spend anything under $100 you're probably going to get junk. I would send it back and buy a better one.


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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Shenmue]
    #25964724 - 04/30/19 04:43 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

I purchased a cheap vacuum sealer. The top gasket went bad so now I'm forced to buy another one. Usually a vacuum sealer has 2 gaskets that need replaced. Sometimes the cheaper models only allow you to replace one so after a year or 2 of use you basically have to buy another one. I also noticed it didn't seal very good. The one I'm buying this time is around 150-195$. I went through the same thing with dehydrators. Dont expect accurate temperatures unless you spend over $100. You usually always get what you pay for. I'm not going cheap anymore with anything because you end up spending more money in the end...


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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: mushboy]
    #25989525 - 05/13/19 09:25 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Good fukken info.
Dehydrator purchase coming up.


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