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mushboy
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Re: mushboys 'cracker dry' comparison! [Re: mushboy] 2
#24059000 - 02/01/17 11:16 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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i did for that big fucker.
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dried out in 30hrs 
i ate that guy 3months later. it turned to dust in my mouth. like eating gluten free crackers. trip was really heavy. more then i wanted at the time. dry was like 3.4 it was close to a mckenna does in effects and body high.
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van hatton
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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: mushboy]
#24059006 - 02/01/17 11:18 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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My place is around 40-60℅
Those little silica packets help
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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: van hatton]
#24059025 - 02/01/17 11:28 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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It has nothing to do with duration but being cracker dry... 20 hours. 50 hours. 10 hours.. whatever gets it 100% dry. I think this was well expressed in OP when stated fruits were taken out at different times. Their is no magic number just dehydrate them. Lol. Better to over do it than under. Won't see potency loss in slight variation of dry time.
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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Lobi] 1
#24059031 - 02/01/17 11:31 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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true.
if my dehydrator is jammed packed. like overflowing, you best believe its drying for 24hrs. a few gram flush from a sunflower seed cake? maybe 8hr..overnight.
use common sense.
thanks for talking about this thread. maybe people thought it was a joke when i wrote it. although i was really, really drunk.
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Moabfighter
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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: mushboy]
#24059085 - 02/01/17 11:59 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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24 hours?
You make me question my 12hr 4x wrapped QP of Koh Samui :/
Got a silica pack in the bag,,, they still feel crispy. Idk. Hope they're fine.
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Taz58
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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Moabfighter]
#24113751 - 02/23/17 03:13 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm not disagreeing with op....I use a Nesco with multi-temp settings...I've been drying at lowest setting 93f...because when I first got into fungi everybody said temps over 100f would kill potency....has that been disregarded.? Can I crank my temp up a little and not damage fruit?
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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Taz58] 1
#24113754 - 02/23/17 03:16 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Dry at 160+
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mushboy
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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Taz58] 1
#24113797 - 02/23/17 03:43 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Taz58 said: because when I first got into fungi everybody said temps over 100f would kill potency....has that been disregarded.? Can I crank my temp up a little and not damage fruit?
 no damage to the fruit body. it will shrink/react like a dried veggie. slight color darkening. thats about it.
the 'heat damages potency' is old tall tale. anyone who wants to argue i beg, no, i PLEAD for you to come visit me and eat this 10g bag of 5month old 185f dried for 24hr mushrooms. by those people own convictions they should have no issues munching down some poorly dried, bitter, or no bunk shrooms.
enjoy.
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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: mushboy]
#24113830 - 02/23/17 04:00 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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mushboy said:
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Taz58 said: because when I first got into fungi everybody said temps over 100f would kill potency....has that been disregarded.? Can I crank my temp up a little and not damage fruit?
 no damage to the fruit body. it will shrink/react like a dried veggie. slight color darkening. thats about it.
the 'heat damages potency' is old tall tale. anyone who wants to argue i beg, no, i PLEAD for you to come visit me and eat this 10g bag of 5month old 185f dried for 24hr mushrooms. by those people own convictions they should have no issues munching down some poorly dried, bitter, or no bunk shrooms.
enjoy.
Very good, thanks I'll crank it up a notch on full loads...
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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Taz58]
#24113964 - 02/23/17 04:57 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks for the pics of the 12, 18 and 24 hour drying 'bends' very nice, very science!
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That's very interesting that your shrooms absorbed moisture at different rates based on drying times, the control being the ziploc bag. I don't know what to make of that cause I thought that the drier something was (in open air) the faster it would absorb moisture. Kind of like heat.
Just to note, if you vacuum seal the shrooms or use mason jars (I prefer the former) they'll stay cracker dry forever
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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Kenetic]
#24114031 - 02/23/17 05:23 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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kenetic said: That's very interesting that your shrooms absorbed moisture at different rates based on drying times, the control being the ziploc bag. I don't know what to make of that cause I thought that the drier something was (in open air) the faster it would absorb moisture. Kind of like heat.
Just to note, if you vacuum seal the shrooms or use mason jars (I prefer the former) they'll stay cracker dry forever
i was surprised they were so bendy after a week. i also thought the 18hr one would be more bendy but it wasnt.
and of course about the vacuum sealing. but sometimes my mushrooms are given as gifts and friends keep them for awhile and might not be as careful as i would be in terms of long term storage. and i dont have spare mason jars to store fruits in. id also need a shitload of storage jars
honestly i need to redo this write up. i was extremely intoxicated when i made it. id like to do it again. with meatier/larger fruits using different dehydrators. i had too many variables in the original post.
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Kenetic
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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: mushboy]
#24114137 - 02/23/17 05:59 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Go for it. Not too bad, I just hate ziplocs
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Taz58
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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: mushboy]
#24115039 - 02/24/17 12:33 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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mushboy said:
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kenetic said: That's very interesting that your shrooms absorbed moisture at different rates based on drying times, the control being the ziploc bag. I don't know what to make of that cause I thought that the drier something was (in open air) the faster it would absorb moisture. Kind of like heat.
Just to note, if you vacuum seal the shrooms or use mason jars (I prefer the former) they'll stay cracker dry forever
i was surprised they were so bendy after a week. i also thought the 18hr one would be more bendy but it wasnt.
and of course about the vacuum sealing. but sometimes my mushrooms are given as gifts and friends keep them for awhile and might not be as careful as i would be in terms of long term storage. and i dont have spare mason jars to store fruits in. id also need a shitload of storage jars
honestly i need to redo this write up. i was extremely intoxicated when i made it. id like to do it again. with meatier/larger fruits using different dehydrators. i had too many variables in the original post.
Mylar bags from amazon are vacuum sealable and don't permeate air like plastic does....just an option
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Drshroomy88
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Re: mushboys 'cracker dry' comparison! [Re: mushboy]
#24116016 - 02/24/17 12:00 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've used a dehydrator since the beginning. Totally essential. I have a 6 tray cheapo one from Wal-Mart but I'm looking to upgrade to something more substantial in my next grow. Definitely an invest worth making especially with bulk. But great post either way!
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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: bodhisatta]
#24116018 - 02/24/17 12:02 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Dry at 160+
I've read 130 is ideal? If not is there a temp you should never go over?
Edited by Drshroomy88 (02/24/17 12:05 PM)
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mushboy
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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: Drshroomy88]
#24116035 - 02/24/17 12:09 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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where did you hear that? also look at this pic posted numerous times...

dry them hot and fast. 130 would slow down the drying. compared to 160+.
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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: mushboy]
#24118182 - 02/25/17 08:21 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I fan dry for 12 hours and then put them in a desiccant chamber till they are cracker dry. Then for long term I put them in a mason jar with a small desiccant pouch. I know this works great for at least a year. Probably longer but I ate them all!
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mushboy
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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: berlinmyc]
#24118187 - 02/25/17 08:23 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fan drying for 12 hours is not going to cut it.
Glad you had your stated result ...so you say.. But.... 12hrs?? Come on..
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Re: 'Cracker dry' comparison! [Re: mushboy]
#24118223 - 02/25/17 08:41 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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i've never used a dehydrator. i've always bee able to achieve cracker dry with 2 or 3 days of drying on a screen/drying rack with a fan aimed at it then 24-48 hours sealed in a bucket with a bunch of damp rid to suck out the very last bit of moisture. it takes a long time but i've never been in a rush to get them dry and i was always worried about heat effecting potency.
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