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Invisiblenatzyshroomer
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My house
    #23768915 - 10/25/16 03:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Hey shroomerites, to keep a long, boring and regretful story short, I am finally moving back into my house. The square footage is on the low side, tenant wasn't very clean i.e. Smoked in the house, had a mouse problem. I need to do some stuff before I can make it decent in my eyes to live in again
I've been in construction for 10 years so I'm handy lol when it comes to tools

But not so handy when it comes to ideas so that's what I'm here for, what do you all recommend being fellow home owners but longer and more experienced than I
I would like to stay cost efficient but modern. More of a Hispanic neighborhood with huge potential to be upscale. Only house with alley access. They are shutting down and moving all industrial businesses
So I want ideas best way to go about everything in your eyes

Edited by natzyshroomer (10/25/16 03:36 AM)

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Invisiblenatzyshroomer
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Re: My house [Re: natzyshroomer]
    #23768924 - 10/25/16 03:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Things needed;
New roof
Windows
Paint
Patched up drywall holes
Flooring
Possibly a new service
Landscaping
Security system
Siding

Wants;
Add on an addition
Turn garage to apartment (property is zoned for two units)
Making livable and safe


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Re: My house [Re: natzyshroomer]
    #23776722 - 10/27/16 01:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So i have no experience building anything, but I watch a lot of DIY videos about people building their own homes and stuff and here's two big points i've gathered:

1. Metal roofs. They're more expensive than shingles, but they last a lot longer and end up paying for themselves. They don't need to be changed every 15 years like shingles do since they last about 100 years.

2. Flooring--I would go with stone or tile if possible. I'd try to avoid wood. It looks nice but wood doesn't last long and is more susceptible to damage.

As for landscaping/gardening, my *opinion* is to landscape according to your climate. Where I live, its very dry, so I would never put something like Hydrangeas in my yard since they require a lot of water. Nor would I lay down a bunch of bermuda grass.

hope some of this helps despite my inexperience :smile:


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InvisibleLophosaurus
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Re: My house [Re: virtuous_babe]
    #23782211 - 10/29/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Start with the roof and exterior. Make it water tight before anything. Roofing is hard work, but it is easy to lay peel and stick and slap some shingles on a roof.

For flooring I like the tile that looks like wood planks.

I'm an electrician and I wouldn't recommend doing the service change yourself if you aren't an electrician.

A lot of times when you turn the garage into living space you lower the value of the house.

Search through house pics on google images and just mimic some that you like. You can do the same with landscaping if you search for your climate

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Invisiblenatzyshroomer
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Re: My house [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #23785240 - 10/30/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I like the ideas thanks a lot it is much appreciated. My
House was built in the 50's with minor upgrades. Come to think of it and ill look next time im over there. I may not even have a foundation. Just dirt

Depenidng ob the foundations status i will agreeably start with the roof and exterior


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Re: My house [Re: virtuous_babe]
    #23903883 - 12/07/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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virtuous_babe said:
So i have no experience building anything, but I watch a lot of DIY videos about people building their own homes and stuff and here's two big points i've gathered:

1. Metal roofs. They're more expensive than shingles, but they last a lot longer and end up paying for themselves. They don't need to be changed every 15 years like shingles do since they last about 100 years.

2. Flooring--I would go with stone or tile if possible. I'd try to avoid wood. It looks nice but wood doesn't last long and is more susceptible to damage.

As for landscaping/gardening, my *opinion* is to landscape according to your climate. Where I live, its very dry, so I would never put something like Hydrangeas in my yard since they require a lot of water. Nor would I lay down a bunch of bermuda grass.

hope some of this helps despite my inexperience :smile:




Metal roofs do last a little bit longer then shingles roofs but a new shingled roof with dimensional shingles should last about 40 years if installed properly.  Plus metal roofs claim to last 50 but I almost guarantee you will have to paint hem every 10 or 15 years.  Plus the layout of the roof plays a huge part on how easy it would be to install metal.  If the roof is just. A couple straight runs with few obstacles like stink pipes or chimneys metal roofs lay down quick as long as your first piece is squared up properly.  If your roof is cut up with dormers and valleys or what not shingles can be way quicker and easier.  If you go with shingles and they are layer properly you shouldn't have to touch your roof again for 30 years or more .  Even the old 3 tab shingles which aren't as good as the newer dimensionals should last 20 years at least.  I always recommend dimensionals over the 3 tabs to my customers they cost about 10 more bucks a square but it is definitley worth it.  Also if you have a roofer put on your roof don't let them gauge the price of dimensionals.  They are quicker to lay then the 3 Tabs and the extra price of the dimensional shingles negate itself in labor expenses since it's faster and easier to line up. 

Having said that I've also done a lot of metal roofs also and they can be pricey,  but the price difference depends on the slope and layout of the house.  I think metal roofs look pretty slick on certain houses and look not so great on others.  Another thing is metal roofs are loud when it rains.  Most people don't realize how much noise rain can make until they switch to metal from shingles.  R

One more thing is that you can do a layover and save a good amount of time and cash if its possible on your roof.  A house can have no more then 2 layers of shingles on it or else the weight of it can damage the roof.  If your current house has just one layer of shingles it might be a good idea to just go right overtop of them with new shingles or metal.  This saves a ton of time and labor costs, not to mention dump fees and finding ways to haul away all the old debris.

There's a ton of information you should learn when replacing your old roof.  I've been doing this type of work my whole life and remodeled and flipped my share of houses, but my main job is roofing, siding, windows, and framing.  I know enough to get by with electrical and plumbing but I'm sure there are others who have more knowledge.  But if you have any questions about roofing, windows, siding, etc.  I'd be more then happy to answer them and point you in the right direction.  Roofs are an extremely important part of any housing project.  If done right you won't have to worry about it for 40 or more years.  But they can also be a nightmare if not done properly.  My advice is to do your homework and if you have my questions feel free to pm me or ask.  Good luck.


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Re: My house [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #23903973 - 12/07/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Lophosaurus said:
Start with the roof and exterior. Make it water tight before anything. Roofing is hard work, but it is easy to lay peel and stick and slap some shingles on a roof.





Yes this is good advice,  the very first thing to do is make it water tight,  if you have leaks or potential for leaks rain can cause thousands of dollars in repairs. Plus if you do inside work first then get a leak it could destroy all the work you've done. Gutters are another thing you might want to look into, having no gutters and bad water run off could result in foundation problems or even possible water in your basement or under your house.  And foundation problems is one thing you want to avoid however necessary.  Bad foundations can be extremely costly and be a huge pain in the ass.

I see it all the time and I don't understand it,  people have cost themselves thousands of dollars because they didn't want to spend a few hundred to fix a leaky box gutter or other leaks in their roof.  Just because you can't see any damage being done doesn't mean there isn't underlying problems.  Making your house weathertight should be your number 1 priority after that you can figure out what you want to do next.


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Re: My house [Re: DTCharlieB]
    #23923734 - 12/13/16 06:27 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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DTCharlieB said:
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Lophosaurus said:
Start with the roof and exterior. Make it water tight before anything. Roofing is hard work, but it is easy to lay peel and stick and slap some shingles on a roof.





Yes this is good advice,  the very first thing to do is make it water tight,  if you have leaks or potential for leaks rain can cause thousands of dollars in repairs. Plus if you do inside work first then get a leak it could destroy all the work you've done. Gutters are another thing you might want to look into, having no gutters and bad water run off could result in foundation problems or even possible water in your basement or under your house.  And foundation problems is one thing you want to avoid however necessary.  Bad foundations can be extremely costly and be a huge pain in the ass.

I see it all the time and I don't understand it,  people have cost themselves thousands of dollars because they didn't want to spend a few hundred to fix a leaky box gutter or other leaks in their roof.  Just because you can't see any damage being done doesn't mean there isn't underlying problems.  Making your house weathertight should be your number 1 priority after that you can figure out what you want to do next.




Good advice.  It sounded like OP may have a house "sitting on the dirt" or maybe post and pier or maybe both.  I have a house that I am remodeling that had a lot of dirt contact in the back and the carpenter ants were having a field day.  Man those bastards can do a lot of damage.  Most of the back of the house was gone and we had to jack it and repair it and put it on pier blocks.  What a pain in the ass for sure.  The digout alone sucked.  I did hire an insulation company thank god we didn't do that digout.  They literally had two guys digging for a week that guy lost money on that bid, for sure.  Now it's gutter time as well as french drain time come spring time, I ain't digging frozen ground.  Almost ready for the french drain, so it's getting there.

Metal roofs are so superior to shingles in any area with leaves and that can moss, it's not funny.  We reused the metal roof from my other house, try that with shingles lol.  Granted metal roofs don't look as good, but still.  I did have to replace every stinking nail in one shop roof all the gaskets had failed, and with expansion and contraction many had popped up.  Sure wish they had used screws what a pain in the ass pulling out their ring fucking shanked nails while sitting on a sloped metal roof.  But it's done now and not leaking.  Had a huge digout in the back, another french drain candidate and needs a gutter too.  The metal siding has rusted some and needs wire brushing primed and painted at the bottom.  Got the leaks solved, amazing how much water came in through the nail noles that had opened up.

Water damage sucks, and is THE most common problem on houses bar none.


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Re: My house [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23923885 - 12/13/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah metal roofs are nice and some houses to get that mossy crap with shingles.  The newer shingles out now say they prevent that but we will see.  I have no problem with metal and they can last a long long time but some depending on how the sun and weather hits it fads fast which isn't a big deal weather wise would just look faded in some areas and some picky people wouldn't like that.  Also like I said if you got to straight sides to your house putting up metal is a breeze but if you get a house with a lot of valleys and dormers then metal can become. A pain in the ass. Really it's personal preference.  Most of the new dimensionals shingles will last as long as you need them too and most of the ones I've put up even years ago still look good with no moss.  But ya you are right there's just some sopts that that moss crap is just going to get too and even though they claim the new ones are moss free I'm willing to bet some houses still get it.

Also they try and fool people and now offer a lifetime guarantee on the new dimensionals but there's about 50 stipulations that would ever prevent them from having to replace the roof. I don't really like that they use it to try and con people into getting them.

Also if you decide to get a contractor to do it get many estimates and ask around.  Stay away from the big box stores like lowes or Home Depot.  We did a house over the summer and it was a pretty decent size and we quoted them at around 14 grand. We were the second lowest bid but they went with us anyway.  But they got an estimate from sears and they quoted this old lady at 39,000. I couldn't believe it when I heard it.  It seems like these big name stores, especially sears since they are well known with the elderly will pray on these old people and give the outrageous quotes and hope they just go with them because of their name.  I mean they use the same material and do the same things we do and they subcontractor their roofs out so they pretty much make 30 grand or more for doing nothing.  Its a rip and a shame but must be nice to have the overhead to offer quotes like that.  I would never rip someone like that but if I got that roof for that price I would be set for 6 months for a 10 day job. 

It aucks because shit like that happens all the time in this line of work,  these big companies give kickback to insurance companies and they just price gauge the crap out of people.  All I'm trying to do is provide for my family and stay busy.


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