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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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What Is Your Preferred Label? * 1
    #23782025 - 10/29/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I think we've established that neither side has utmost loyalty to their respecive political party of choice, so I'm sure nobody wants to be labelled Democrat or Republican.

And saying shit like libtard and repugnican is just stupid.

So..

Conservative
Liberal
Capitalist
Socialist
Communist
Anarchist
Hard line
Progressive
Libertarian
Social Democrat
Anarcho capitalist


Which of these would you use to label yourself?

Add in the ones I surely forgot.



I'd say: liberal, progressive, socialist, and social democrat all would apply to me. But for simplicity's sake, Id prefer to be called a progressive. Liberal, for no fault of liberalism, has a stink to it on this country.


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23782289 - 10/29/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

labor Democrat


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23782317 - 10/29/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Left libertarian (left - economic, libertarian - social)


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23783050 - 10/29/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Patriot 

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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: Great Scott]
    #23783105 - 10/29/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

A Blind Ass  :jimmies:


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23783924 - 10/29/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Socialist/ Libertarian (not economically but on social issues)/Social Democrat

quite connected to my philosophical leanings of course which are Epicurean(basically restrained hedonism)/Preference Utilitarianism


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: DividedQuantum] * 2
    #23784829 - 10/30/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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DividedQuantum said:
Left libertarian (left - economic, libertarian - social)




This.

Even the dems over the past few decades have been authoritarian right, so I don't vote.

The US is a far right, authoritarian nation, on both sides of the coin.


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23785609 - 10/30/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

green as a motha fucka


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: mikeisapro] * 2
    #23787144 - 10/30/16 10:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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DividedQuantum said:
Left libertarian (left - economic, libertarian - social)




This.

Even the dems over the past few decades have been authoritarian right, so I don't vote.

The US is a far right, authoritarian nation, on both sides of the coin.



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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #24780085 - 11/13/17 12:10 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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DividedQuantum said:
Left libertarian (left - economic, libertarian - social)




same here, cool! i prefer the term "classical liberal" though, they are pretty much synonymous.

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Ezuma said:
Socialist/ Libertarian (not economically but on social issues)/Social Democrat

quite connected to my philosophical leanings of course which are Epicurean(basically restrained hedonism)/Preference Utilitarianism



nice.


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24780094 - 11/13/17 12:12 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

most of usual clientele ignored this useless thread about "labels", but now it's being remembered as some great coup, or some amazing showcase of how "the usuals" are disingenuous...by the disingenuous themselves. hilarious.

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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #24780099 - 11/13/17 12:14 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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DividedQuantum said:
Left libertarian (left - economic, libertarian - social)




This. George Orwell and Albert Camus are the ones that have informed my morality.


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: viktor] * 2
    #24780146 - 11/13/17 12:28 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Orwell volunteered in the Spanish Civil War to fight fascists.


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #24780148 - 11/13/17 12:29 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Orwell volunteered in the Spanish Civil War to fight fascists.



and he also critiqued all of socialist causes, vehemently, but you'll NEVER NOTE THAT.

ever.

https://www.biographyonline.net/socialism-george-orwell/


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24780158 - 11/13/17 12:31 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #24780240 - 11/13/17 12:58 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

:lol: True

he was in the marxist militia. I'm not sure viktor will be too happy about that..

hilarious that viktor puts himself on the left at all really... but then again he probably thinks the Nazis were left wing.

in terms of my own labels, I'm in the direction of socialist, social democrat and anarchist.


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: Tipote]
    #24780242 - 11/13/17 12:59 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

your political views are a plague.

he was also, Orwell, that is, a staunch critic of socialists like yourself.


Edited by akira_akuma (11/13/17 01:05 PM)


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #24780261 - 11/13/17 01:04 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Orwell volunteered in the Spanish Civil War to fight fascists.




He did, and I have likewise devoted my life to fighting all hate ideologies. I hate all of Nazism, Communism, Multiculturalism and Abrahamism.


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: viktor]
    #24780264 - 11/13/17 01:04 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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viktor said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Orwell volunteered in the Spanish Civil War to fight fascists.




He did, and I have likewise devoted my life to fighting all hate ideologies. I hate all of Nazism, Communism, Multiculturalism and Abrahamism.



fuck...a human.

where are the rest of the humans? all i see is robots.


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: viktor]
    #24780274 - 11/13/17 01:08 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Anyone who thinks Orwell was a Marxist is not worth communicating with on the subject.


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: viktor] * 2
    #24780279 - 11/13/17 01:09 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

i didnt say he was marxist. I said he fought with them.


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: viktor]
    #24780281 - 11/13/17 01:10 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Anyone who thinks Orwell was a Marxist is not worth communicating with on the subject.



actually it's worth doing something, but i've just about had it with prevaricators, liars, and fakers, for "causes" that are as real as unicorns- fuck, now i'm insulting unicorns. i'd rather reify the existence of unicorns, then stand for this shit anymore.

war. fuck this back and forth which gets us all nowhere, but for the fact of liars faking their way into power and just to flip order on top of it's head, for the sake of "their ideals" which are faulty and dangerous.

fuck me. i'm so sick of this planet. i can't stand it.

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i didnt say he was marxist. I said he fought with them.



no he DIDN'T he didn't even approve of Communism and thought it terrible, you are not one to talk on the subject, like viktor said, you just make up this shit as you go along.


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: viktor] * 1
    #24780282 - 11/13/17 01:10 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Orwell volunteered in the Spanish Civil War to fight fascists.




He did, and I have likewise devoted my life to fighting all hate ideologies. I hate all of Nazism, Communism, Multiculturalism and Abrahamism.




What about the parts of Nazism that hate on communism and multiculturalism?


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: Tipote]
    #24780283 - 11/13/17 01:11 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Tipote said:
Quote:

viktor said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Orwell volunteered in the Spanish Civil War to fight fascists.




He did, and I have likewise devoted my life to fighting all hate ideologies. I hate all of Nazism, Communism, Multiculturalism and Abrahamism.




What about the parts of Nazism that hate on communism and multiculturalism?



what A DUMB QUESTION.

FUCKING SOCIALISTS CULTURAL MARXIST CULTISTS

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i didnt say he was marxist. I said he fought with them.



look it even got a plus 1^

i swear soros is up in this bitch...it's gotta be...or else people are really so invariably evil on the left, they need to play these games for the sake of their very existence, cause their life is so baseless, and their mind's so philosophically numb.


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: viktor] * 3
    #24780292 - 11/13/17 01:16 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Anyone who thinks Orwell was a Marxist is not worth communicating with on the subject.









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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #24780317 - 11/13/17 01:30 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

you fucking people always take context for your bitch.

he said "as I understand it" BECAUSE

"although he goes to lengths to balance the concerns and goals of Socialism with the barriers it faced from the movement's own advocates at the time, such as 'priggish' and 'dull' Socialist intellectuals, and 'proletarian' Socialists with little grasp of the actual ideology."

you can never ADMIT IT
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24780158#24780158

you people would make Orwell shoot himself in the head. you are nothing but newspeak incentivizers!

the world could be mullato and socialist, i'd work with it...but liars...i cannot provide.

liars....i cannot.


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
    #24780353 - 11/13/17 01:48 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Also:

"For some years past I have managed to make the capitalist class pay me several pounds a week for writing books against capitalism. But I do not delude myself that this state of affairs is going to last forever ... the only régime which, in the long run, will dare to permit freedom of speech is a Socialist régime. If Fascism triumphs I am finished as a writer – that is to say, finished in my only effective capacity. That of itself would be a sufficient reason for joining a Socialist party."
-George Orwell (Why I joined the Independent Labour Party)


"The other crucial dimension to Orwell's socialism was his recognition that the Soviet Union was not socialist. Unlike many on the left, instead of abandoning socialism once he discovered the full horror of Stalinist rule in the Soviet Union, Orwell abandoned the Soviet Union and instead remained a socialist – indeed he became more committed to the socialist cause than ever."
- John Newsinger (Orwell's biographer)


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #24780363 - 11/13/17 01:54 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

yes, socialism as HE UNDERSTANDS IT, which was never in accordance with any other socialism at the time- and it's only gotten worse, but you fucking...people...just keep on make Orwell roll and spin and rot evermore.


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: viktor] * 3
    #24780448 - 11/13/17 02:32 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

viktor said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Orwell volunteered in the Spanish Civil War to fight fascists.




He did, and I have likewise devoted my life to fighting all hate ideologies. I hate...




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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #24780469 - 11/13/17 02:43 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

if you can't hate that which hates you back, you already lose.

but since you're a delusional socialist, you can't understand the concept and will be enslaved and enthralled in the notional, and the factual will lose it's ability to be imparted, thanks to the soulless, like you...eventually.


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24780530 - 11/13/17 03:14 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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if you can't hate that which hates you back, you already lose.




that sounds a lot like some ANTIFA rhetoric.  Did you switch sides again or something?


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #24780536 - 11/13/17 03:18 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

the problem is I DON'T WANT IT, it's been foisted on me, because people REFUSE to listen, all they do is TAKE SIDES, which i've always VEHEMENTLY and VOCALLY been against.

you don't understand A THING about me. you only assume you do.

i've never taken sides, you keep getting everything WRONG.

i've always said NO BANNERS

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24689616#24689616

"i don't put myself under any banners, because there are things i disagree with, in principal, for almost all banners."

but i can NEVER be accurate enough for pathetic gorms to understand simplicity.

you people NEED me to either take your side, or i am your enemy, this is what you've shown me. the left are intellectual lightweights. they are pusillanimous. they are schemers.


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #24780596 - 11/13/17 03:43 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Orwell fought alongside some of the original Antifa in Spain


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #24780598 - 11/13/17 03:45 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

when there was a fascist uprising. what is it that you people don't understand, why are your brains so deflated?

there is no fascist uprising in the US but the one that ANTIFA, there, is creating by bombastically going after Trump supporters and "capitalism"

PS: is ANTIFA anticapitalism, sure, but that means it's not JUST "anti-fascist", correct?

ideographs are annoying, especially when they are used by liars and schemers.


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #24780609 - 11/13/17 03:50 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Social - cunt hair left from the middle
Economic - Milton Freidman with a small dose of Keynesian.
Defense- Libertarian


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Re: What Is Your Preferred Label? [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #24780615 - 11/13/17 03:53 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Social - cunt hair left from the middle
Economic - Milton Freidman with a small dose of Keynesian.
Defense- Libertarian



nicely stated.


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