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Fruiting bacterial grain jars
    #23780996 - 10/28/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

So, I have some old contaminated grain jars. They are pinning on their own, and I would like to try to fruit them in a SGFC or something. Maybe throw a bit of casing on top. Any suggestions?


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Re: Fruiting bacterial grain jars [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23781007 - 10/28/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

don't even bother casing if they're pinning in there and it's also contaminated.


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Re: Fruiting bacterial grain jars [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23781037 - 10/28/16 07:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Not all of them are pinning.


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Re: Fruiting bacterial grain jars [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23781073 - 10/28/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

extra fine verm works best get the stuff that's at the bottom of the bag.


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Re: Fruiting bacterial grain jars [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23781216 - 10/28/16 08:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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So, I have some old contaminated grain jars. They are pinning on their own, and I would like to try to fruit them in a SGFC or something. Maybe throw a bit of casing on top. Any suggestions?



Honestly id try to do a damion 5050 tek. Double the spawn to coir ratio (2x spawn to coir)


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Re: Fruiting bacterial grain jars [Re: numnum59]
    #23781237 - 10/28/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If I case it, I would probably use cvg. I usually stock up on jiffy mix before winter, but I didn't get around to it this year. Maybe a simple verm layer will work though. I have some verm that is quite fine.

I wasn't really asking for suggestions on what to case with. I was just wondering how you guys go about fruiting bacterial jars, if anyone around here does that.


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Re: Fruiting bacterial grain jars [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23781392 - 10/28/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm having the same dilemma right now. Considering spawning to bulk, or just putting them in a tray and mixing it with cvg, or a tray with a casing layer, or just fruiting invitro. Maybe I'll roll some dice. :shrug:


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Re: Fruiting bacterial grain jars [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23781393 - 10/28/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yea try coir with mono buckets. All the ease of monotub and the safe no spawn waste is contams


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Re: Fruiting bacterial grain jars [Re: tump]
    #23781452 - 10/28/16 10:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for suggesting the bucket tek. That's definitely something I will consider in the future, but perhaps with some healthier spawn. Also, it will avoid the hassle of drilling holes into one of my buckets. Just because I'm more familiar with the operating conditions of a monotub, I may be leaning towards using a monotub and just introducing fruiting conditions early while the substrate is still colonizing.


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Re: Fruiting bacterial grain jars [Re: cr1s1s]
    #23781459 - 10/28/16 10:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm having the same dilemma right now. Considering spawning to bulk, or just putting them in a tray and mixing it with cvg, or a tray with a casing layer, or just fruiting invitro. Maybe I'll roll some dice. :shrug:




Do you have pics? Some of mine are pretty bad, but this strain is very quick to fruit. I wouldn't really dare spawn them to anything, or even try to lay them out in treys.


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Re: Fruiting bacterial grain jars [Re: tump]
    #23781463 - 10/28/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Yea try coir with mono buckets. All the ease of monotub and the safe no spawn waste is contams




I would rather use proper pasteurization if I'm going to case these bad boys. I have to take every measure I can against trich. I believe the bucket tek takes the sub into sterilization territory.


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Re: Fruiting bacterial grain jars [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23781474 - 10/28/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm having the same dilemma right now. Considering spawning to bulk, or just putting them in a tray and mixing it with cvg, or a tray with a casing layer, or just fruiting invitro. Maybe I'll roll some dice. :shrug:




Do you have pics? Some of mine are pretty bad, but this strain is very quick to fruit. I wouldn't really dare spawn them to anything, or even try to lay them out in treys.




Yep, check here.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23739812

The first few pics are two master jars i g2g'd. Obviously I'm a little new to bacillus contams but to my eyes they didn't look too terribly bad. Later in the thread I posted pics of a few representative jars from the first round of g2g transfers I did. My first ever g2g. The second round of g2g I did went a lot smoother and seem to be doing better, but still came from a bacterial jar (a somewhat ill educated guess), so my hopes are higher with those since they are colonizing way faster and look a bit healthier.


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Re: Fruiting bacterial grain jars [Re: cr1s1s]
    #23781510 - 10/28/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm having the same dilemma right now. Considering spawning to bulk, or just putting them in a tray and mixing it with cvg, or a tray with a casing layer, or just fruiting invitro. Maybe I'll roll some dice. :shrug:




Do you have pics? Some of mine are pretty bad, but this strain is very quick to fruit. I wouldn't really dare spawn them to anything, or even try to lay them out in treys.




Yep, check here.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23739812

The first few pics are two master jars i g2g'd. Obviously I'm a little new to bacillus contams but to my eyes they didn't look too terribly bad. Later in the thread I posted pics of a few representative jars from the first round of g2g transfers I did. My first ever g2g. The second round of g2g I did went a lot smoother and seem to be doing better, but still came from a bacterial jar (a somewhat ill educated guess), so my hopes are higher with those since they are colonizing way faster and look a bit healthier.




They got a little bit of bacteria. Spawn those fuckers to bulk. They are fine. Those are nice looking jars man. All jars have bacteria in them, btw. Nobody has entirely bacteria free jars. Your jars are perfectly useable.


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Re: Fruiting bacterial grain jars [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23781512 - 10/28/16 10:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Shake them, if you can't get the grains to break up, then there might be cause for concern if they haven't been sitting around for a couple weeks after full colonization. If they take more than 48 hours to recover (fuzz back up), then you probably have a problem.

I highly doubt you have either of those problems. Those jars look nice, buddy. Spawn them!


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Re: Fruiting bacterial grain jars [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23782114 - 10/29/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Fruiting bacterial grain jars [Re: tump]
    #23782123 - 10/29/16 09:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I would leave them n start over...js


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Re: Fruiting bacterial grain jars [Re: cronicr]
    #23782133 - 10/29/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)



This is how I treat bacterial jars, cased with cvg and fruited with a baggie over them with 4 holes in them


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Re: Fruiting bacterial grain jars [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #23782147 - 10/29/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Those don't look so bad...I always picture mass bacillus lol.


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Re: Fruiting bacterial grain jars [Re: cronicr]
    #23782151 - 10/29/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Lol yea, I mean if they are super funky I would just toss them.


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Re: Fruiting bacterial grain jars [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #23782513 - 10/29/16 12:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Shake them, if you can't get the grains to break up, then there might be cause for concern if they haven't been sitting around for a couple weeks after full colonization. If they take more than 48 hours to recover (fuzz back up), then you probably have a problem.

I highly doubt you have either of those problems. Those jars look nice, buddy. Spawn them!




Thanks for your input! I've decided to spawn them to bulk in a monotub and introduce fae early while colonizing. It's just after having a lot of contam problems last time I'm extremely wary of bacteria in my jars. These do still look better though. I'll be mixing the jars into the sub later tonight.


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