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DMT Extraction Questions
    #23780555 - 10/28/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Alright boys and girls, I am currently in the early stages of extracting DMT from Acacia Confusa, using Joshishom's Tek.  The Root Bark is currently in the freezer for the first of 3 freezes and tomorrow I plan to start the acid cook.  I have 1KG of RB. 

I have a few questions (ok a lot) and I'm hoping you guys can help me out. 

Part 1:  Acid Cook
After I reduce the contents of pot b to 2500ML, how long can I place it in the fridge for?  The recipe says to cool it in the fridge but does that mean I can allow it to get cold and for a semi long period of time?  The reason I ask is because this seems like the only part during the entire cook that I can actually take a break.  So could I put it in the fridge tomorrow evening and overnight, and then take it out on Sunday morning to begin the rest of the cook?

Part 2:  Basify
This seems like the easiest step but I still have a couple questions.  Before adding the Lye, do I want the contents in the jug to return to a room temp or do I want it cold?  It seems that the lye will make it warm (which sounds important for Part 3: Extraction) so do i want to slowly add my lye in a cold or a room temperature liquid?  Maybe it doesnt matter? 

Part 3:  Extraction
Step 1: says to measure and add 1000ml of naphtha, which seems easy enough. 

Step 2:  says to shake the contents of the jar vigorously for 1-2 minutes and "then let it separate"...let what separate?  The liquid and the recently added naphtha?  if so, how long does that take?  I'm supposed to repeat this step 10 times so I want to make sure I am doing it correctly. 

Step 3:  After the last shake, it then says to roll the jar gently to avoid emulsion...wtf does that mean and roll it how?  Like on my countertop? 

Step 4:  Seems pretty self explanatory

Step 5:  It says to take the jar of DMT saturated naphtha and put it into a dark cool area...ok, well how cool?  Would a fridge work or is that too cool? 

Step 6:  After funneling the crystals from the naphtha, it says to put the naphtha in the freezer for 24 hours...however...

Step 7:  It says to repeat steps 1-6 and to use the same naphtha over and over.  Does that mean I am only using 1000ml of total naphtha for the entire process, or does that mean I am using the same naphtha but also adding 1000ml with each pull?

Sorry if you feel these are stupid questions but I promise you that I have been reading up on this quite a bit and I am still left with these questions even after all the research.

Thanks doooooods.


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Re: DMT Extraction Questions [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23780673 - 10/28/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The separation of the naptha and the and bark mixture. You will see a dark mixture on the bottom and a yellow naptha layer on top. The yellow layer is what you take out.


Step 3- roll it slowly on the floor back and forth. Preferably carpet, make sure it is closed tight and won't leak.

cannot help with the rest since I prepare it differently. Good luck.


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Re: DMT Extraction Questions [Re: Jenjens]
    #23780893 - 10/28/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know how long you could let it sit in the fridge, I wouldn't let it get too cold, I let it get room temperature in the fridge. You want the lye to warm it up pretty well, If it doesn't you'll have to heat it manually.

As getting it too cold could cause that.


As the other poster said, youll see the boiled liquid and naphtha seperate. It happens faster when hot.
To roll it the last time, I put a towel on the counter, laid the jar down flat and sloshed it gently back and forth. The lid needs to be on really tight, you do not want that liquid all over the place.

Also, be cautious when taking the lid off, itll.be under pressure and will spray a little. Have a wrap or paper towels to put the lids on.

Step 5. I put mine into the freezer each time, didn't do it on the counter at all. Put saran wrap on the naphtha, it does evaporate and make everything taste like naphtha.

Step 7. You do use the same naphtha over and over again, the naphtha absorbs a small amount of dmt, and you won't be able to extract every single but each time it's chilled. So, us8ng clean naphtha each time will mean you'll have to evaporate a whole lot more naphtha at the end of the process.

At the very end, youll put the naphtha in a bowl, and slowly evaporate it all, youll have dirty dmt crystals left behind. You can clean those and be sure you got as much as possible out


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Re: DMT Extraction Questions [Re: alexmir]
    #23780955 - 10/28/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks dude.  It's getting much easier to visualize now.

Just a couple more questions on the extraction steps...

So on step 5,  you're basically skipping the 12 hour initial separation and just go straight to the freezer for the 1st and subsequent pulls? 

Step 6-7:  The tek calls for 24 hours in the freezer for the pulls...are you saying this is overkill and 12 hours is more than enough?  I really hope so because devoting that many days and that much time is going to be tough.  Also, how many pulls are typically necessary?  It says in the tek to pull until no more DMT is being extracted, but what' the average amount of pulls needed to get to that point? 

Regarding this comment.."At the very end, youll put the naphtha in a bowl, and slowly evaporate it all, youll have dirty dmt crystals left behind. You can clean those and be sure you got as much as possible out"...

How can you clean these crystals?  Just let the naphtha evaporate in the open air? 

Also, with each pull do you keep them all separate or combine them all at the end?  I imagine (but total guess) that each one is going to vary in color, quality, and potency. 


Thanks again


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Re: DMT Extraction Questions [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23780978 - 10/28/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The longer my pulls stay in the freezer, the better yield. I do 2-3 days. Its tough to wait, I know. make sure the freezer is on it's coldest setting possible and out in the back near the fan.

Use seperate containers for each pull. A shallow dish works best and the fastest.


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Re: DMT Extraction Questions [Re: Jenjens]
    #23781047 - 10/28/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I do 12 to 18hours in the freezer.

On step 5, I do skip the 12 hours at room temperature, youll get the dmt out when it's in the freezer. I found it unnecessary.
I think I do 4 pulls total, and then 1 more to.make sure, and I don't get anything on the 5 th.

More time in the freezer will get more out each pull, but I think you'll end up getting everything with so many pulls.

At the end of the process, I get absolutely nothing out of the freezing naphtha., even after adding the rock salt. So I feel confident I extract everything out.


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Re: DMT Extraction Questions [Re: alexmir]
    #23781097 - 10/28/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I do 12 to 18hours in the freezer.

On step 5, I do skip the 12 hours at room temperature, youll get the dmt out when it's in the freezer. I found it unnecessary.
I think I do 4 pulls total, and then 1 more to.make sure, and I don't get anything on the 5 th.

More time in the freezer will get more out each pull, but I think you'll end up getting everything with so many pulls.

At the end of the process, I get absolutely nothing out of the freezing naphtha., even after adding the rock salt. So I feel confident I extract everything out.




Got it, thanks.

I am planning to be EXTREMELY careful when using the lye so I had a couple final questions and I think/hope I've got it.

In step one of the pull, the gallon jar is supposed to be warm from either the Lye, or from me double boiling if necessary.  Does this warm temp also apply to future pulls?

So when I'm done straining the naphtha and combine it again with the lye/liquid in the gallon jar do I need to reheat the jar by double boiling it? 

Also I am instructed to add the lye initially very slowly, does that mean I need to reintroduce the naphtha to the lye slowly or does it not matter when it's in that order?


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Re: DMT Extraction Questions [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23781133 - 10/28/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It need to be warm each pull, and adding the naphtha back into the jar doesn't have to be done really slow.

I let mine get hot enough that i could handle it, but it was uncomfortably warm


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Re: DMT Extraction Questions [Re: alexmir]
    #23785662 - 10/30/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Started off a little dirty but most of the red gunk has fallen to the very bottom of the jar.  The plan is to put this through a coffee filter tonight and let it dry.  Then clean it tomorrow with fresh naphtha...




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Re: DMT Extraction Questions [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23789227 - 10/31/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

1st pull...pretty dirty but I'm planning on doing a rinse/clean once I can figure out a good method.




2nd pull...looks clean as fuck to me but what do i know. 



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Re: DMT Extraction Questions [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23796608 - 11/03/16 03:00 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I have 2 questions, sorry,for bothering. I don't have permission where I am to do things like this.
And my 2nd question, what kind training do I need to try this successfully?


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Re: DMT Extraction Questions [Re: Mindlessindulger]
    #23796794 - 11/03/16 06:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I have 2 questions, sorry,for bothering. I don't have permission where I am to do things like this.
And my 2nd question, what kind training do I need to try this successfully?




Technically you only asked one question...?

No training. I failed all my chemistry classes in school and still managed to extract my own DMT. Granted, I did have tremendous help from the shroomery community.

And by permission do you mean it's illegal?  Yeah well same here. Every single item I purchased was done online and were all LEGAL products. It's what I did with it that was the illegal part.


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