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musiclover420
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"AI system finds Trump will win the White House
#23780354 - 10/28/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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and is more popular than Obama in 2008"
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/ai-system-finds-trump-win-104022784.html
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An artificial intelligence system that correctly predicted the last three U.S. presidential elections puts Republican nominee Donald Trump ahead of Democrat rival Hillary Clinton in the race for the White House.
MogIA was developed by Sanjiv Rai, founder of Indian start-up Genic.ai. It takes in 20 million data points from public platforms including Google, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube in the U.S. and then analyzes the information to create predictions.
The AI system was created in 2004, so it has been getting smarter all the time. It had already correctly predicted the results of the Democratic and Republican Primaries.
Data such as engagement with tweets or Facebook Live videos have been taken into account. The result is that Trump has overtaken the engagement numbers of Barack Obama 's peak in 2008 — the year he was elected president — by 25 percent.
Rai said that his AI system shows that the candidate in each election who had leading engagement data ended up winning the election.
"If Trump loses, it will defy the data trend for the first time in the last 12 years since Internet engagement began in full earnest," Rai wrote in a report sent to CNBC.
Currently most national polls put Clinton and the Democrats ahead by a strong margin. Rai said his data shows that Clinton should not get complacent.
But the entrepreneur admitted that there were limitations to the data in that sentiment around social media posts is difficult for the system to analyze. Just because somebody engages with a Trump tweet, it doesn't mean that they support him. Also there are currently more people on social media than there were in the three previous presidential elections.
"If you look at the primaries, in the primaries, there were immense amounts of negative conversations that happen with regards to Trump. However, when these conversations started picking up pace, in the final days, it meant a huge game opening for Trump and he won the primaries with a good margin," Rai told CNBC in a phone interview.
Using social media to predict outcomes of elections has become increasingly popular because of the amount of data available publicly. In September, Nick Beauchamp, an assistant professor of political science at Northeastern University, published a paper about his experiment applying AI to more than 100 million tweets in the 2012 election. He found that this closely mirrored the results seen in state-level polling.
"These results provide not just a tool for generating surveylike data, but also a method for investigating how what people say and think reflects, and perhaps even affects, their vote intentions," Beauchamp said.
Rai said his system would be improved by more granular data. He said that If Google was to give him access to the unique internet addresses assigned to each digital device, he could then collect data on exactly what people were thinking.
For example, Rai said if someone was searching for a YouTube video on how to vote, then looked for a video on how to vote for Trump, this could give the AI a good idea of the voter's intention. He added that there would be no privacy concerns as these internet addresses would be anonymized.
"Granularity of data will determine progressively lesser bias despite the weightage of negative or positive conversations," Rai wrote in his report, explaining how to improve the system.
MogIA is based on Mowgli, the child from Rudyard Kipling's novel "The Jungle Book." Rai said this is because his AI model learns from the environment.
"While most algorithms suffer from programmers/developer's biases, MoglA aims at learning from her environment, developing her own rules at the policy layer and develop expert systems without discarding any data," Rai said.
Correction: MogIA is based on Mowgli from the novel "The Jungle Book." An earlier version misspelled the character's name.

What are your thoughts? BS?
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Re: "AI system finds Trump will win the White House [Re: musiclover420]
#23780570 - 10/28/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It worked perfectly in the past...
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musiclover420
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Re: "AI system finds Trump will win the White House [Re: Patlal]
#23780580 - 10/28/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Patlal said: It worked perfectly in the past...
What did?
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Re: "AI system finds Trump will win the White House [Re: musiclover420]
#23780595 - 10/28/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said:
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Patlal said: It worked perfectly in the past...
What did?
That system predicted 3 election results accurately
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Re: "AI system finds Trump will win the White House [Re: Patlal] 1
#23780615 - 10/28/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've predicted every presidential election since 2004 accurately, as I've put money on all of them.
Therefore I must be a sophisticated AI system. My intelligence is artificial enough for the task.
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Re: "AI system finds Trump will win the White House [Re: musiclover420] 1
#23780651 - 10/28/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wonder what it predicts my future to be
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Re: "AI system finds Trump will win the White House [Re: musiclover420] 1
#23780655 - 10/28/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've predicted the results of every election since Bill's 2nd term
Doesn't mean shit
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Re: "AI system finds Trump will win the White House [Re: Repertoire89]
#23780662 - 10/28/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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can you tell me what you think I'll be??
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#23780663 - 10/28/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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A butterfly, a beautiful butterfly.
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Re: "AI system finds Trump will win the White House [Re: shadyy]
#23780668 - 10/28/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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i hate liz said: can you tell me what you think I'll be??
Me next! Please please pretty please
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Re: "AI system finds Trump will win the White House [Re: hostileuniverse] 2
#23780747 - 10/28/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Me next! Please please pretty please
The crab will walk over the coconut, and it will be good
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Re: "AI system finds Trump will win the White House [Re: Patlal]
#23780750 - 10/28/16 05:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
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musiclover420 said:
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Patlal said: It worked perfectly in the past...
What did?
That system predicted 3 election results accurately
I really hope that isn't true...
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Re: "AI system finds Trump will win the White House [Re: musiclover420] 1
#23781148 - 10/28/16 08:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: "AI system finds Trump will win the White House [Re: Niffla]
#23781160 - 10/28/16 08:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Niffla said:

if Trump actually made America great again by 2020, I bet all the Hillary supporters would still be mad.
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Re: "AI system finds Trump will win the White House [Re: musiclover420] 1
#23781222 - 10/28/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't put too much stock in election predictions. Soon we will know the actual result anyway.
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musiclover420
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Re: "AI system finds Trump will win the White House [Re: psi]
#23781240 - 10/28/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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psi said: I don't put too much stock in election predictions. Soon we will know the actual result anyway.
Yeah I just thought it was interesting/ surprising.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Re: "AI system finds Trump will win the White House [Re: psi] 2
#23781245 - 10/28/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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psi said: I don't put too much stock in election predictions. Soon we will know the actual result anyway.
I predict either Trump or hillary will win the white house. Beat That prediction.
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Re: "AI system finds Trump will win the White House [Re: starfire_xes]
#23781252 - 10/28/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said:
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psi said: I don't put too much stock in election predictions. Soon we will know the actual result anyway.
I predict either Trump or hillary will win the white house. Beat That prediction.
I predict that Someone is going to be elected president, and it may or may not be a woman or a man
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Re: "AI system finds Trump will win the White House [Re: shadyy]
#23781276 - 10/28/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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why do you hate liz?
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Re: "AI system finds Trump will win the White House [Re: Patlal]
#23781289 - 10/28/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
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musiclover420 said:
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Patlal said: It worked perfectly in the past...
What did?
That system predicted 3 election results accurately
I respect you as a shroomery poster patlal...but you spend too much time dabbing in american politics as a canadian, and often with nothing valuable to say. Why dont you worry about your own shit as much as the good old us of a? I guess im just drunk and am finally asking why does patlal the canadian always make threads and post about american politics..? Are you that bored? Does canada suck that much? Am i just an asshole...Again ive always liked you so dont hate my drunken opinion here i guess but its just time to ask why... I could have been better about this post but please be genuine in your response. Maybe even pm it as I may forget im watching the world series
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