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15% of Canadians don't speak English
#23779889 - 10/28/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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List of countries by English-speaking population
Only 85% of Canadians speak English, compared with 90% of Swedish, Dutch, and Norwegians. Even Denmark and some Micronesian countries come before Canada. I always thought of Canada as basically just being the USA with minor cultural and legislative/executive differences. Language incompatibility is one of the most perceptible barriers between societies. I mean sure 85% is most and yes even here 5% of people don't speak English which is probably a less than the true number to be perfectly honest. But 15% seems really high for a country that I always thought of as a quirky extension of Minnesota. Granted 15% of the Canadian population is probably only like 500 people.
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: morrowasted]
#23779901 - 10/28/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Probably mostly due to backwoods Quebecois, and the Chinese in Vancouver. Seriously there are fuckers out there only speaking french, makes me sick just thinking of it. Go to Richmond in Vancouver, and you'll see what I mean about the Chinese, they make up 54% of the city, and the older ones often don't show any understanding of English.
the nation is 20.6% immigrants as well (mostly Chinese) but it's easy not to notice if you live out of a major city as rural areas are pretty much all white
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: Lucis]
#23779905 - 10/28/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Most Quebecers refuse to learn english because the British suppressed them and tried to assimilate them 200 years ago and they are still not over it.
It's a damn shame.
Big cties (10000+ population) in Quebec speak english. Anything rural or small town is 99% french
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: morrowasted]
#23779906 - 10/28/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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also maybe they're including Newfoundlanders, what they speak is barely language as far as I can see, let alone English
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: Lucis]
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I can see this. I live not too far from toronto.
When i go to toronto i realize that with all the immigrant owned businesses and other immigrants to hang out with why would they ever need to assimilate?
Im sure its also like this in other heavily populated places like vancouver.
Im also sure that there are alot of people in quebec that only speak french.
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: Ezuma]
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23779917 - 10/28/16 12:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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for some reason first generation immigrants living among themselves not speaking english doesn't bother me at all, but the french... I dunno I'm a bit prejudiced against Quebecois I guess, mostly cus they tendto be really stuck up (the hardcore french ones)
they've even got a school in my town that you can ONLY ATTEND if you're of Quebecois french-speaking ancestry... pretty racist mkay
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: Ezuma]
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: Ezuma] 1
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Oh yeah french canaidans think very highly of themselves. They tried to become an independant nation.
Yeah i dont mind if first generation immigrants dont speak english either.
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: BANANA.MAN] 2
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And they say Canadians are insecure. BTW the accent in the Maritimes is pretty much the same as in Main.
Personally I love diversity I know some people fear anyone or anything that is slightly different but it only makes their world a lot smaller.
I love it! Fear is its own penalty. And greed can never be satisfied.
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: rider420]
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: rider420]
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rider420 said: And they say Canadians are insecure. BTW the accent in the Maritimes is pretty much the same as in Main.
Personally I love diversity I know some people fear anyone or anything that is slightly different but it only makes their world a lot smaller.
I love it! Fear is its own penalty. And greed can never be satisfied.
Not sure what you mean by that. Houston is about as multicultural as Toronto by the way. We have of course a metric fuckton of Latinos (literally about 40% of the population if you count undocumented immigrants), then the standard white americans who make up about half of the documented population, african americans are like 13%, then we have african immigrants, vietnamese, chinese, taiwanese, thai, indian, bangali, pakistani/iranian and russian immigrants. and those are just the major populations who actually have sections of town for themselves. I don't mind diversity. My elementary and middle schools actually did instruction in spanish half the day and I appreciate that very much despite the seemingly controversial nature of teaching American public school in spanish because now I am about 85-90% fluent in spanish. At some point in my life I think it would be interesting to see what it's like to stay in Ireland (I'm a ginger) for a month or two just see how it feels to live somewhere where I don't stand out so much in a group.
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: morrowasted]
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That 15% probably speak French.
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: Crystal G]
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From what I am reading it sounds like a sizeable portion speak french and a bunch also speak asian languages. I have heard toronto has a lot of middle eastern and asian people
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: Crystal G]
#23780401 - 10/28/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Once you get outside the suburbs of Montreal there are a suprisinly large number of people who don't speak english
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: morrowasted]
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Canada has a much larger immigrant population per capita than the US. 20% or more of Canada is foreign born, and immigrants and children of immigrants in Quebec must be educated in French, by law unless the immigrants are native english speakers.
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: morrowasted]
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Personally I love diversity I know some people fear anyone or anything that is slightly different but it only makes their world a lot smaller.
I love it! Fear is its own penalty. And greed can never be satisfied.
Not sure what you mean by that. Houston is about as multicultural as Toronto by the way. We have of course a metric fuckton of Latinos (literally about 40% of the population if you count undocumented immigrants), then the standard white americans who make up about half of the documented population, african americans are like 13%, then we have african immigrants, vietnamese, chinese, taiwanese, thai, indian, bangali, pakistani/iranian and russian immigrants. and those are just the major populations who actually have sections of town for themselves. I don't mind diversity. My elementary and middle schools actually did instruction in spanish half the day and I appreciate that very much despite the seemingly controversial nature of teaching American public school in spanish because now I am about 85-90% fluent in spanish. At some point in my life I think it would be interesting to see what it's like to stay in Ireland (I'm a ginger) for a month or two just see how it feels to live somewhere where I don't stand out so much in a group.
I seriously doubt Houston is as multicultural as Toronto.
Despite French being an official language in Canada, it is about number 15 on a list of most spoken languages in Toronto. Toronto has massive Italian, Greek, Portuguese, and Chinese speaking communities.
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: koods]
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Im from quebec and half the people i know dont talk english,
Nothing to do with assimilation or shit that went down 200yrs ago, they just dont care
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#23780431 - 10/28/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can understand any accent like a charm
If they are trying to speak English
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
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Jean-guy Masta said: Im from quebec and half the people i know dont talk english,
Nothing to do with assimilation or shit that went down 200yrs ago, they just dont care
No. It's the PQ mentality.
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: Patlal]
#23780674 - 10/28/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anyone know what language Amira speaks?
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: koods]
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: morrowasted] 1
#23780769 - 10/28/16 05:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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what's even worse is 15% of English dont speak Canadian
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: koods]
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rider420 said: And they say Canadians are insecure. BTW the accent in the Maritimes is pretty much the same as in Main.
Personally I love diversity I know some people fear anyone or anything that is slightly different but it only makes their world a lot smaller.
I love it! Fear is its own penalty. And greed can never be satisfied.
Not sure what you mean by that. Houston is about as multicultural as Toronto by the way. We have of course a metric fuckton of Latinos (literally about 40% of the population if you count undocumented immigrants), then the standard white americans who make up about half of the documented population, african americans are like 13%, then we have african immigrants, vietnamese, chinese, taiwanese, thai, indian, bangali, pakistani/iranian and russian immigrants. and those are just the major populations who actually have sections of town for themselves. I don't mind diversity. My elementary and middle schools actually did instruction in spanish half the day and I appreciate that very much despite the seemingly controversial nature of teaching American public school in spanish because now I am about 85-90% fluent in spanish. At some point in my life I think it would be interesting to see what it's like to stay in Ireland (I'm a ginger) for a month or two just see how it feels to live somewhere where I don't stand out so much in a group.
I seriously doubt Houston is as multicultural as Toronto.
Despite French being an official language in Canada, it is about number 15 on a list of most spoken languages in Toronto. Toronto has massive Italian, Greek, Portuguese, and Chinese speaking communities.
Maybe not, I will have to go there. The very fact that Toronto's Demographic's wikipedia is so much more detailed than Houston's leads me to believe you MIGHT be right. I think it's definitely true that there are more foreign born immigrants from diverse ethnic backgrounds living there, but I think it might be true that there are about as many native-born US citizens living in Houston who share the ethnicities of torontonian immigrants.
This is for Houston: According to the U.S. Census 2000, the racial makeup of the city was 49.3% White (including Hispanic or Latino), 25.3% Black or African American, 0.4% Native American, 5.3% Asian, 0.1&% Pacific Islander, 16.5% from other races, and 3.2% from two or more races. 37% of the population was Hispanic or Latino of any race.
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: morrowasted] 2
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Only 85% of Canadians speak English, compared with 90% of Swedish, Dutch, and Norwegians. Even Denmark and some Micronesian countries come before Canada. I always thought of Canada as basically just being the USA with minor cultural and legislative/executive differences. Language incompatibility is one of the most perceptible barriers between societies. I mean sure 85% is most and yes even here 5% of people don't speak English which is probably a less than the true number to be perfectly honest. But 15% seems really high for a country that I always thought of as a quirky extension of Minnesota. Granted 15% of the Canadian population is probably only like 500 people.
We have two official languages though. Minimally it's expected that you know one of them, and a lot of people don't bother really learning the other one (myself included). I suspect the number of people here who have no understanding of either official language is fairly small.
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After working in tech support for a number of years, I think I can safely say that Quebecians are some of the most assholish people on the planet. I thought I dealt with assholes all the time, but holy fuck... those guys take it to a whole nother level. If the caller was from Quebec there was a 98% chance you would want to stab them in the eye after like the first 30 seconds.
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said: After working in tech support for a number of years, I think I can safely say that Quebecians are some of the most assholish people on the planet. I thought I dealt with assholes all the time, but holy fuck... those guys take it to a whole nother level. If the caller was from Quebec there was a 98% chance you would want to stab them in the eye after like the first 30 seconds.
 I like it when my prejudices are reinforced, most Quebecois I've met have been pricks (the exceptions were mostly English Quebecois
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: koods]
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This factor made trips to Québec City feel really strange; never left Canada, but felt like visiting another country.
Also going to a rave in Sherbrooke was really surreal. Remember being high on mescaline communicating via makeshift sign language wishing to have paid attention well enough to learn French in school, instead of trying to learn it on the streets years later.
Though will say, never felt judged for having really broken French and having to relearn everything. Always felt stupid trying to communicate at first, but people were patient and helpful towards me for making the effort, despite the language barrier.
There are other places outside of Québec that are pretty French as well -- St. Boniface in Manitoba springs to mind, though the proportion of people who outright can't speak English is much smaller. It is, however, one of the few areas to my recollection outside of Québec with French signage.
Signs and billboards always felt like the biggest culture shock going back and forth between the prairies and Québec -- Everything is either only in English or only in French, there is no gradual transition, especially traveling by plane.
Though all of this is being kind enough to refer to Québécois as "French," when most French speakers I have met say they find Québécois nearly non-intelligible.
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Re: 15% of Canadians don't speak English [Re: Tantrika]
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is this your fucking handiwork?
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