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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott] * 1
    #23778427 - 10/27/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Don't be so naive.

"Smartmatic is owned by Lord Mark Malloch-Brown. He is connected to Soros through the Open Society Foundation, an organization that gives grants to civil society organizations around the world. Malloch-Brown serves on the Open Society Global Board. Smartmatic says on its website, 'George Soros does not have and has never had any ownership stake in Smartmatic.'" http://www.businessinsider.com/george-soros-connection-to-voting-machines-2016-10

In other words, there is plausible deniability there.



So you believe that Soros controls Smartmatic because of a LACK of evidence?!?!?  That's what I call conspiracy nuttiness.

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Welcome to the world of white collar crookdom, where they excel at setting up complex networks to exonerate themselves from perceived wrongdoings. The question is... why are you so committed to falling for it?



Because I'm not a conspiracy nut.  If you make a claim, you need to back it up (Burden of Proof).  If you can't back it up, then you should post in the Conspiracy Forum.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23778434 - 10/27/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, that's the thing... it's not even subtle anymore. It couldn't be more brazen and in your face now. You'd have to be a complete fucking imbecile to think otherwise at this point.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #23778437 - 10/27/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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During early voting - on the machines where Im near - several individuals went in a selected an ALL republican ballot - and guess what?  Everything was republican except ! ta da!  Trump/Pence Switched  To Hillary/Kain...go figure...  This politicol collusion is transparant and oh so forward they dont even try to hide it any more, they just hope your too drunk or distracted or tired to pay attention.

Fuck em. With love :wink:



If this proves to be true, it will make huge news.  Otherwise, it's just some nutcase lying to support Trump's assertion that the election is rigged.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott] * 1
    #23778442 - 10/27/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah, that's the thing... it's not even subtle anymore. It couldn't be more brazen and in your face now. You'd have to be a complete fucking imbecile to think otherwise at this point.



Time to move this thread to the "Conspiracies and Cover-ups" forum (unless evidence is presented).


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23778457 - 10/27/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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During early voting - on the machines where Im near - several individuals went in a selected an ALL republican ballot - and guess what?  Everything was republican except ! ta da!  Trump/Pence Switched  To Hillary/Kain...go figure...  This politicol collusion is transparant and oh so forward they dont even try to hide it any more, they just hope your too drunk or distracted or tired to pay attention.

Fuck em. With love :wink:



If this proves to be true, it will make huge news.  Otherwise, it's just some nutcase lying to support Trump's assertion that the election is rigged.





lol, ok if it proves true?  theres an on going investigation into it right now im sure youl hear about it soon. within a week i imagine.  I forget who they had to call in to the actual voting location because shit got serious.  It happened to 2 different people in a single day.  May just be the machines but ...really now....like they cant fucking get an algorithm correct on a VOTING MACHINE?  dude open your eyes.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23778462 - 10/27/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Don't be so naive.

"Smartmatic is owned by Lord Mark Malloch-Brown. He is connected to Soros through the Open Society Foundation, an organization that gives grants to civil society organizations around the world. Malloch-Brown serves on the Open Society Global Board. Smartmatic says on its website, 'George Soros does not have and has never had any ownership stake in Smartmatic.'" http://www.businessinsider.com/george-soros-connection-to-voting-machines-2016-10

In other words, there is plausible deniability there.



So you believe that Soros controls Smartmatic because of a LACK of evidence?!?!?  That's what I call conspiracy nuttiness.

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Welcome to the world of white collar crookdom, where they excel at setting up complex networks to exonerate themselves from perceived wrongdoings. The question is... why are you so committed to falling for it?



Because I'm not a conspiracy nut.  If you make a claim, you need to back it up (Burden of Proof).  If you can't back it up, then you should post in the Conspiracy Forum.




Nah, that's a cop out. If I remember correctly, you are one of the people who disputes the recent Project Veritas tapes, which provide video confession (ie: evidence) of election fraud. Proof doesn't seem to cut it for you even when the burden is undertaken and the proof is provided. Nice bluff, but you've been called out.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott]
    #23778483 - 10/27/16 09:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:owgasm:  <^Hillary when she says she wants to be your champion.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #23778485 - 10/27/16 09:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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lol, ok if it proves true?  theres an on going investigation into it right now im sure youl hear about it soon. within a week i imagine.  I forget who they had to call in to the actual voting location because shit got serious.  It happened to 2 different people in a single day.  May just be the machines but ...really now....like they cant fucking get an algorithm correct on a VOTING MACHINE?  dude open your eyes.



I'll believe it once it's proven to be true.  But not before then.  :shrug:


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23778499 - 10/27/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

These crooks are trying to say it's illegal to snap video of the polling process. I'm sure people will do it anyways, though.

Here's one machine in Virginia flipping a House Rep. vote from Republican to Democrat in real time.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott]
    #23778507 - 10/27/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Peyote youll see in a week. You will all see.  Thats not what happened at the place i mentioned.  It was worse.  All republican ballot cast goes through but hilarry and kaine are the only thing that doesnt match.... The fuck is going on.  Jk i know ..corruption. Rampant, huge, widespread, massive corruption.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott]
    #23778522 - 10/27/16 09:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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If I remember correctly, you are one of the people who disputes the recent Project Veritas tapes, which provide video confession (ie: evidence) of election fraud. Proof doesn't seem to cut it for you even when the burden is undertaken and the proof is provided. Nice bluff, but you've been called out.



I've never even heard of Project Veritas.  Unless you can provide evidence that I've discussed this, it's just more conspiracy nuttiness.

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Here's one machine in Virginia flipping a House Rep. vote from Republican to Democrat in real time.




If the machine were rigged, it would simply show an "X" in the republican field and count it as democrat.  Do you really think voters will just say "ok I guess I'll just vote democrat today" if the machines were like the one above?

Edit:  The same logic is true for the example "The Blind Ass" gave.  If the machine were rigged, it certainly wouldn't let voters know about it.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23778533 - 10/27/16 09:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

faulty logic you idiot, corruption isnt nice like that.  people are careless and heedless. man u just dont get it and frankly thats fine. You hold your self to good standards but it would be a waste of time at this point to work within them to give you what you want to see what is seen by any one with the eye to see.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23778536 - 10/27/16 09:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

give it 1 week and it will be on the news then you can check it out.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23778539 - 10/27/16 09:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Go watch the Project Veritas videos then. Start with part 1.



I must have gotten you mixed up with Koods or someone else, who keeps trying to deny the evidence in this tape (though he refuses to even watch this tape). :confused:

Let's see how stubborn you truly are. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not quite as obstinate as Koods is, Mr. Proof Expert.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott]
    #23778550 - 10/27/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You guys do realize that national elections are actually conducted at the state and local level, right?  Who exactly is doing the conspiring, and how?


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23778563 - 10/27/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Can you provide an example of a corporation lobbying for more regulation?



Phillip Morris lobbying for heightened regulation of tobacco advertising to cut competitors out and maintain/gain market share.

McDonalds, Kraft, Starbucks, among others, spent millions lobbying for food "safety" regulations. They are trying to, uh, you know, create disincentives for potential small competitors.

How about energy companies lobbying for Cap and Trade? I can't even make sense of that



Thanks for backing up your claim.

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Just because you guys are incapable of googling "corporations lobbying for regulations", or something similar, doesn't mean that the corporations aren't lobbying for regulations so that smaller, less equipped companies, are burdened disproportionally.



Burden of Proof is ALWAYS on the person making a claim.  That's Logic 101.



First off, I didn't "back up" anything. I listed examples that for all you know, didn't even happen.

Second off, you don't need to have a specific example listed to understand logic and the impetus behind big corporations lobbying for more regulations.

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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: amp244]
    #23778570 - 10/27/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

He's a goddamn robot. His pseudointellect doesn't afford him the ability to operate outside of the bounds of his rigid, formulaic approach to reasoning. Definitely reeks of institutionalized, Marxist school indoctrination.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23778603 - 10/27/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You guys do realize that national elections are actually conducted at the state and local level, right?  Who exactly is doing the conspiring, and how?




Yes we do, and that makes not an iota of a difference.


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23778607 - 10/27/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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You guys do realize that national elections are actually conducted at the state and local level, right?  Who exactly is doing the conspiring, and how?




Yes we do, and that makes not an iota of a difference.




But but but, Obama said it did! :goat:


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Re: Official Hillary vs Trump Debate Thread. [Re: Great Scott]
    #23778615 - 10/27/16 10:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Go watch the Project Veritas videos then. Start with part 1.

Let's see how stubborn you truly are. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not quite as obstinate as Koods is, Mr. Proof Expert.



Ok, I watched it.  In summary, Hillary supporters think Trump supporters are crazy, and they prove it's so by putting liberals in a Trump rally and filming the Trump supporters reaction.  Is that about it?


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