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MortySmith



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Re: [Xvf] First Grow Log [Re: SampaJasli]
#23800516 - 11/04/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, from spores I usually get like 7-9 days, depending. I had one show growth on day 6 I think.
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xvf


Registered: 10/21/16
Posts: 59
Loc: Canada
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Re: [Xvf] First Grow Log [Re: MortySmith]
#23815976 - 11/09/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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We got growth! Took about 9 days but today I checked my agar dishes and 16 of 22 have colonization forming! Gonna give it a few more days to fully colonize but I gotta say.. I was beginning to worry. Needless to say, very happy to see my efforts begin to pay off.
In other news, I got another syringe left so I'm gonna inoculate some WBS jars.
Pictures coming soon
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Moabfighter
Tam Fighter


Registered: 12/13/15
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Re: [Xvf] First Grow Log [Re: xvf]
#23815983 - 11/09/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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What? Stop.
If you have agar going, why the fuck you gonna make jars with crapshoot multispore syringes??
-------------------- KSSS And PE WBS.
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xvf


Registered: 10/21/16
Posts: 59
Loc: Canada
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Learning experience. Gonna seperate the agar spawn & wbs spawn into their own isolated environments. So no worry of contam.
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Moabfighter
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Re: [Xvf] First Grow Log [Re: xvf]
#23816047 - 11/09/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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But why not just wait a week and use clean spawn?
-------------------- KSSS And PE WBS.
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xvf


Registered: 10/21/16
Posts: 59
Loc: Canada
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Quote:
Moabfighter said: But why not just wait a week and use clean spawn?
Is LC to WBS really that bad? Whats your experience with inoculating WBS from LC
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Moabfighter
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Re: [Xvf] First Grow Log [Re: xvf]
#23816141 - 11/09/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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My experience is none but if you're using multispore my personal experience doesn't matter.
Wait on the agar, to be sure it's clean and can perform at its best. Why grow half ass mushrooms if you're a week away from inoculating with agar?
-------------------- KSSS And PE WBS.
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xvf


Registered: 10/21/16
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Loc: Canada
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Ditched the LC to WBS. I'll just hold on to this other syringe.




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Th3Issu3
Stranger Danger


Registered: 12/30/14
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Quote:
Moabfighter said: But why not just wait a week and use clean spawn?
I used to get the same way when I started out this hobbie, I wanted to constantly do things and waiting sucked.
Honestly tho man, before you know it you'll have so much shit to do that you'll be staying in over the weekends b/c you have so much stuff to work on.
takes time, but it will come.
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MudaFuka
Poppin bottles



Registered: 12/14/13
Posts: 18,648
Loc: Canada
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Re: [Xvf] First Grow Log [Re: Th3Issu3]
#23817008 - 11/09/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I grew with spores to grain for a long time before I got into agar. I had a few jars go bad but my results were pretty good for the most part. I still shoot spores into grain once in a while. there's nothing wrong with it. Contam rates ar a bit higher but so what. Grain's cheap. if you don't mind the risk I say go for it.
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xvf


Registered: 10/21/16
Posts: 59
Loc: Canada
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Re: [Xvf] First Grow Log [Re: MudaFuka]
#23819703 - 11/10/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Todays update:
Agar is blowing up! Even since this time yesterday it has almost doubled in growth.
Every single agar dish has growth (22 of 22). No signs of contam.
Guess its time to start preparing some WBS.. and with 22 dishes I might need to buy some more birdseed 
Little tip: Use a flashlight to examine your growth if your having trouble seeing it. Or a food coloring back-drop.
Edited by xvf (11/10/16 12:42 PM)
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tump
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Re: [Xvf] First Grow Log [Re: xvf]
#23821462 - 11/10/16 10:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Please post pictures id find you extremely lucky if all 22 spore to agar grow 100 clean first try. And your going to need to fix a whole bag of bird seed for that many plates. Hop to it birdsong . wait i see some pictures. They look a litte bacteria
Edited by tump (11/10/16 11:05 PM)
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A.RichardTrickle
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Re: [Xvf] First Grow Log [Re: tump]
#23821498 - 11/10/16 11:16 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is why you should start with the (not out dated, that's foolish) PF Tek. It teaches so much. I've been cultivating for years and still use cakes. If you REALLY want to know how mycology works, and not just looking for a fat sac of boomers you should crawl before walking. The only ones screaming go bulk are those in it for their own gains IME. Take your time to learn the life cycle, not just do this, this and this, but understand why you do these things. IMO OP, you got some shit advice from a TC, not flaming, just my two pennies. I don't need a TC tag to know how learning works. I hope it works well for you. My personal advice is to learn to crawl before walking, KNOW why agar is better, KNOW why you use it. If you understood that you would not have made so many plates to start with. Don't be lazy, learn, read. Best to you, Dick
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xvf


Registered: 10/21/16
Posts: 59
Loc: Canada
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Re: [Xvf] First Grow Log [Re: tump]
#23821727 - 11/11/16 01:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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tump said: Please post pictures id find you extremely lucky if all 22 spore to agar grow 100 clean first try. And your going to need to fix a whole bag of bird seed for that many plates. Hop to it birdsong . wait i see some pictures. They look a litte bacteria
Its extremely hard to take pictures of the growth in my dishes due to the jars having a decorated wall. So pictures will be taken right before I do my transfers.
I have been studying contams and have my eye out for cobweb.
Edited by xvf (11/11/16 02:12 AM)
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wtfcrazymofo
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Registered: 07/26/15
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Re: [Xvf] First Grow Log [Re: xvf]
#23821771 - 11/11/16 02:36 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The camera is a vector so you should flick a pic after you make your transfers.
-------------------- If you want to eat->https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8553541 Bag sealers are to bulky (my hood isn't that big) https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28622922
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xvf


Registered: 10/21/16
Posts: 59
Loc: Canada
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Re: [Xvf] First Grow Log [Re: xvf]
#23821778 - 11/11/16 02:43 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Actually heres some pictures taken 5 min ago. Not much of a point taking pics, too hard to see.
I did find 1 dish with a contam. Its a small black circle the size of a BB growing directly in the center of the mycelium. HOWEVER, the dish with the contam got fucked during pressure cooking; water bubbled up and filled the dish up. Afterwards I opened it to dump the water (thus exposing it to open air/contams). I marked the jar with a piece of tape that said "possible contam" and looks like I was right.
It has been removed from the rest of the dishes. Just tossed the entire dish. Mason jars are cheap.






Edited by xvf (11/11/16 02:51 AM)
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wtfcrazymofo
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Re: [Xvf] First Grow Log [Re: xvf]
#23821789 - 11/11/16 03:05 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Time to do some transfers.
-------------------- If you want to eat->https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8553541 Bag sealers are to bulky (my hood isn't that big) https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28622922
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MudaFuka
Poppin bottles



Registered: 12/14/13
Posts: 18,648
Loc: Canada
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Quote:
A.RichardTrickle said: This is why you should start with the (not out dated, that's foolish) PF Tek. It teaches so much. I've been cultivating for years and still use cakes. If you REALLY want to know how mycology works, and not just looking for a fat sac of boomers you should crawl before walking. The only ones screaming go bulk are those in it for their own gains IME. Take your time to learn the life cycle, not just do this, this and this, but understand why you do these things. IMO OP, you got some shit advice from a TC, not flaming, just my two pennies. I don't need a TC tag to know how learning works. I hope it works well for you. My personal advice is to learn to crawl before walking, KNOW why agar is better, KNOW why you use it. If you understood that you would not have made so many plates to start with. Don't be lazy, learn, read. Best to you, Dick
There's nothing hard about growing bulk. Growing cubes in a mono tub is crawling. It's not like I told him to start with a green house full of pans or stone producers. For me the goal has always been to grow mushrooms. Why wouldn't I start with the method that yeilds the moste?
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MudaFuka
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Registered: 12/14/13
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Re: [Xvf] First Grow Log [Re: xvf]
#23822063 - 11/11/16 06:31 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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xvf said: Actually heres some pictures taken 5 min ago. Not much of a point taking pics, too hard to see.
I did find 1 dish with a contam. Its a small black circle the size of a BB growing directly in the center of the mycelium. HOWEVER, the dish with the contam got fucked during pressure cooking; water bubbled up and filled the dish up. Afterwards I opened it to dump the water (thus exposing it to open air/contams). I marked the jar with a piece of tape that said "possible contam" and looks like I was right.
It has been removed from the rest of the dishes. Just tossed the entire dish. Mason jars are cheap.







Next time use way less spore solution. Just a single drop in the center of each dish. It's hard to track clean growth when the plate is covered with mycelium like that. as stated above, make some transfers.take a piece of mycelium about half the size of a grain of rice from the leading edge on you cleanest looking plate and transfer to a new plate.
Just do 3 or 4 new plates to ensure you get clean growth and go from there. With 1 plate you can inoculate 4 qts, then G2G those to 40 new qts. No need to go knocking up 20 plates. Mind you for a first grow. I would suggest just making 4 or 6 qts and doing two 27qt mini monos. Crawl before you walk.
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