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numnum59
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noc'ing up a cow field
#23777917 - 10/27/16 07:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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so i have a good friend that owns a cow farm. over the summer i looked several times for cubes but only found non cube species.
i have a tub that is starting to get trich and several grain jars that im pretty sure are contamd and dont want to waste resources trying to do anything with them. what would be the best way to get that field noc'd up, or is it even possible? the temps where im at are roughly between 50-60 degrees at night and 70-85 during the day (F).
thanks!!
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Re: noc'ing up a cow field [Re: numnum59]
#23778040 - 10/27/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Here we go again.. We get this question more than you think.
Instead of playing with a pipe dream, you should honestly just work on your sterile technique and try and get clean spawn. Once you get clean spawn you don't need a shitty cow field.
But if you were so inclined. I guess. Some people go around a cow field shooting spore solution everywhere. Trying to think like a mushroom spreading its spores. But you are dealing with nature, essentially chaos. You have no control, so don't be surprised if nothing happened at all.
Someone once (or a hundred times idk) thought that feeding cows the spore solution in their drinking water would yield better results. If that actually worked, and I was a farmer with cows, that's what I would try first if I was being a lazy fuck not wanting to do any work and get mushrooms. Don't have to waste a whole day walking around shooting water at cow shit to fail that way
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The water trick works wonders...cows shit lots.
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Re: noc'ing up a cow field [Re: cronicr]
#23778072 - 10/27/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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In the drinking water? I did see that as being a pretty believable solution cause the spores can probably survive the digestive track
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numnum59
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SloppyJoseph said: Here we go again.. We get this question more than you think.
Instead of playing with a pipe dream, you should honestly just work on your sterile technique and try and get clean spawn. Once you get clean spawn you don't need a shitty cow field.
But if you were so inclined. I guess. Some people go around a cow field shooting spore solution everywhere. Trying to think like a mushroom spreading its spores. But you are dealing with nature, essentially chaos. You have no control, so don't be surprised if nothing happened at all.
Someone once (or a hundred times idk) thought that feeding cows the spore solution in their drinking water would yield better results. If that actually worked, and I was a farmer with cows, that's what I would try first if I was being a lazy fuck not wanting to do any work and get mushrooms. Don't have to waste a whole day walking around shooting water at cow shit to fail that way 
i am actually working agar stuff now, but i just got back into it so when i got my first syringe i decided fuck it spore syringe > LC > grain > mono and it actually is fruiting now with a pretty badass pinset. but i know that a bunch of my stuff is contaminated from going that route now. (its showing in tubs and some jars) so i figure why not give it a shot instead of just dumping it in the trash.
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numnum59
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SloppyJoseph said: In the drinking water? I did see that as being a pretty believable solution cause the spores can probably survive the digestive track
Cows have multiple stomachs. They are also one of the only animals with no stomach acid, so as the cows graze the pastures and eat the grass they are also eating millions of microscopic mushroom "Spores" (seeds). The mushroom spores then slowly pass through the cows multiple stomachs unaffected by stomach acids, and this is when they begin to germinate. When the spores leave the cows stomach they come out in nice fertilized packages (dung) are ready for the next stage of growth called mycelium.
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Re: noc'ing up a cow field [Re: numnum59]
#23778107 - 10/27/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah I mean a lot of people throw their contaminated/spent stuff outside in compost heaps and sometimes you'll get a few outdoor shrooms and sometimes you'll get a big green pile. Experiment away dude and see what happens, definitely not trying to dissuade you on that. We've all had some ideas sometimes you gotta see it succeed/fail on your own.
And thanks for the mini lesson on how spores work
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Re: noc'ing up a cow field [Re: cronicr]
#23778158 - 10/27/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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cronicr said: The water trick works wonders...cows shit lots.
There's a lot of truth to this. It's the natural way, after all.
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Re: noc'ing up a cow field [Re: dankington]
#23778297 - 10/27/16 08:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Spores to water-cow shits it- whole field of mushys-call me to help
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Re: noc'ing up a cow field [Re: numnum59]
#23778352 - 10/27/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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numnum59 said:
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SloppyJoseph said: In the drinking water? I did see that as being a pretty believable solution cause the spores can probably survive the digestive track
Cows have multiple stomachs. They are also one of the only animals with no stomach acid, so as the cows graze the pastures and eat the grass they are also eating millions of microscopic mushroom "Spores" (seeds). The mushroom spores then slowly pass through the cows multiple stomachs unaffected by stomach acids, and this is when they begin to germinate. When the spores leave the cows stomach they come out in nice fertilized packages (dung) are ready for the next stage of growth called mycelium.
Cows have one stomach with four parts. Parts of a cow’s stomach:
Rumen – This is the first part of the cow’s stomach. It helps break down complex plant products like grass.
Reticulum – Here the food mixes with the cow’s saliva and produces cud. Cows burp up the cud into their mouths and chew it to help break it down more. When you see a cow that looks like she is chomping on bubble gum, really she is chewing her cud.
Omasum – Here all the water is absorbed out of the food.
Abomasum – Here is where the food is finally digested, similar to what happens in a human stomach.
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Re: noc'ing up a cow field [Re: numnum59]
#23778996 - 10/28/16 01:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Scrap some spore prints into a water trough, wait a couple weeks, harvest!
The other way is to make cube spawn then mix with straw and cow shit in the field, when the growing condiitons are ideal (rainy and cool, but humid and warm too).
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