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Re: Why trump will win [Re: psilynut]
#23779765 - 10/28/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Simpsons predicted it, you know its a sure thing
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Re: Why trump will win [Re: Ifishhigh]
#23779767 - 10/28/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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basically all you're saying is that Trump will get the majority vote.. what would interest me more is why those people are voting for him, and what demographic they are.
For the most part, I would say those voters are lower to upper middle class white people who want to protect their piece of the pie, something which, if they thought about it all, would be far less at stake than they believe it to be.
It's more important, in this day and age, to vote ethically, almost emotionally, for the purpose of creating a world in which everyone feels like they have a voice that can be heard. For example, choosing a candidate who, at the very least, speaks out against privatized prisons, the keystone of the prison industrial complex and mass-incarceration of minorities.
By including minority groups of people into the center stage of politics, the conversations that we have on the national scale can turn towards the concerns of how to make this a better world for everyone, not just a way to reduce taxes so that those who already have a decent income can live slightly more luxuriously.
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I think we're in a time where ethics don't matter in this election because each candidate is completely sinister. Hillary more so than Trump, so voting for Hillary is in no way the ethical choice.
Imo, having everyone's voice heard, or the possibility of it, is a fantasy that won't exist in America
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Re: Why trump will win [Re: trees] 1
#23779786 - 10/28/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I disagree with the supposition that hillary clinton is ethically inferior to donald trump. The man is a walking ball of slime, when you consider his business practices, his statements both private and public.
The worst thing that Hillary clinton has done is no worse than any of the other politicians who are in the game right now. That doesn't make it okay, to have double standards and to manipulate people, but at least it's par for the course. Supporting sexism, racism, xenophobia, threatening all out war in the middle east, creating business structures where your workers actually fucking die on your work sites and it's no big deal, creeping on little girls, raping his wife ( it's in the divorce case before any of this was public knowledge ), and preying on the ignorance and the stupidity of the masses is far worse than just being a mold-fitting politician.
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Re: Why trump will win [Re: trees]
#23779791 - 10/28/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Imo, having everyone's voice heard, or the possibility of it, is a fantasy that won't exist in America
So you've already given up on trying to create a better world? It's not like you can flip a switch and then all of a sudden everything is in a state of balance, nationally, but having that as a goal to reach is important. What we could do, for starters, is actually think about things ethically rather than strictly economically.
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Re: Why trump will win [Re: koods]
#23779820 - 10/28/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Niffla said: Take this for what it's worth (which is probably nothing but who knows)
But this dude has supposedly used a formula that has predicted every election winner correctly since 1988
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/always-correct-election-predictor-trump-defeating-sickly-hillary-51-48/
And he gives Trump a 66% chance of winning
That article was written on August 13. Totally unbiased reporting about "sickly Hillary" too
Yes, I pointed out in the immediate post after that it was reported in August.
And yes, the article itself is biased. But the prediction is/was not. That guy (Alan Abramowitz) just does it off a formula. He's not some republican just hoping that Trump wins. This same guy predicted four democratic term victories since 1988, so he's not toeing a party line.
That said, I'm not saying that it means jack shit. For all I know since then he's changed his prediction. And even if he hasn't, it's just a prediction, and predictions often end up wrong. But it is worth noting that the dude's formula has been correct on every election since 1988.
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Yeah well Hillary's been involved in sending money and weapons to Qatar and Saudi Arabia, who have been arming ISIS and funding ISIS and Hilarys campaign at the time. ISIS, who we identify as one of the biggest global threats today. Nothing sketch or unethical about that?
Edited by trees (10/28/16 11:40 AM)
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Re: Why trump will win [Re: psilynut]
#23779827 - 10/28/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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in masses. A lot of people are afraid to admit that we like him for some reason.
I know allot of people , mostly men who are afraid to admit they like trump . Theyre also afraid to admit they kinda like the KKK a little bit , afraid to admit they would like to see a woman's right to vote taken away , and terrified to have to explain conspiracy theorys . It's kinda funny really .
Typical liberal nonsense assuming because someone does not agree with you or your candidate or sitting politician, i.e 0bunghole, they must be misogynistic, homophobic, racist, or whatever the liberal buzzword of the week is. Could it be that the people are actually anti-establishment, anti-corruption, pro-constitution, pro-liberty?? Oh no, of course it couldn't be that. Gimme an effing break!
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Re: Why trump will win [Re: koods]
#23779948 - 10/28/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ifishhigh said: A lot of people are afraid to admit that we like him for some reason.
Have you seen the violence against Trump supporters?
Have you seen the vandalism against anything "pro Trump"?
It's not that we are scared, we are smart
want your car keyed by some piece of shit loser lib? Put a trump sticker on it, park it in any public lot for a couple hours,
Want to be attacked in public? Wear a TRUMP hat or shirt
Libs are getting progressively more violent against ideas and ideals they oppose, that's not an accident, but that's a discussion for a different thread
You are living in a crazy paranoid bubble

Go to YouTube and type "stealing Trump signs"
Then "attacking Trump supporters"
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hostileuniverse said: Go to YouTube and type "stealing Trump signs"
Then "attacking Trump supporters"
Stealing campaign signs from people's yards is a time honored tradition, an American passtime. It's a laugh in the face of people so rediculously partisan that they use slogans as lawn art.
You probably stole FDR yard signs when you were a lad Hostile. Right before you got conscripted to fight the Germans.
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Re: Why trump will win [Re: Aiko Aiko]
#23779964 - 10/28/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Typical liberal nonsense assuming because someone does not agree with you or your candidate or sitting politician, i.e 0bunghole, they must be misogynistic, homophobic, racist, or whatever the liberal buzzword of the week is. Could it be that the people are actually anti-establishment, anti-corruption, pro-constitution, pro-liberty?? Oh no, of course it couldn't be that. Gimme an effing break!
No I thought they were racist ,homophobic , misogynistic , and watever before the election started . Prettymuch everyone I knew in high school who I thought that about that I have on my Facebook page is voting for trump . The ones who I don't have probably are too. I'm not trying to say if you vote for trump you automatically live up to those 4 things you pointed out , but if I already think you are those things you don't need to tell me who you are voting for .
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Re: Why trump will win [Re: PatrickKn]
#23780068 - 10/28/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: Go to YouTube and type "stealing Trump signs"
Then "attacking Trump supporters"
Stealing campaign signs from people's yards is a time honored tradition, an American passtime. It's a laugh in the face of people so rediculously partisan that they use slogans as lawn art.
You probably stole FDR yard signs when you were a lad Hostile. Right before you got conscripted to fight the Germans.
And violently attacking people whom vote different than you? Time honored tradition as well?
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O douls? Really?
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Re: Why trump will win [Re: trees]
#23780095 - 10/28/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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trees said: Yeah well Hillary's been involved in sending money and weapons to Qatar and Saudi Arabia, who have been arming ISIS and funding ISIS and Hilarys campaign at the time. ISIS, who we identify as one of the biggest global threats today. Nothing sketch or unethical about that?
The US has been sending weapons to Saudi Arabia for decades. They are our military ally. The us has a military base in Qatar. What does Hillary Clinton have to do with any of this? These are long standing US policies that existed long before she took office.
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Re: Why trump will win [Re: psilynut]
#23780096 - 10/28/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Typical liberal nonsense assuming because someone does not agree with you or your candidate or sitting politician, i.e 0bunghole, they must be misogynistic, homophobic, racist, or whatever the liberal buzzword of the week is. Could it be that the people are actually anti-establishment, anti-corruption, pro-constitution, pro-liberty?? Oh no, of course it couldn't be that. Gimme an effing break!
No I thought they were racist ,homophobic , misogynistic , and watever before the election started . Prettymuch everyone I knew in high school who I thought that about that I have on my Facebook page is voting for trump . The ones who I don't have probably are too. I'm not trying to say if you vote for trump you automatically live up to those 4 things you pointed out , but if I already think you are those things you don't need to tell me who you are voting for .
Facebook evidence huh?
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hostileuniverse said: And violently attacking people whom vote different than you? Time honored tradition as well?
Only when liberals do it.
Or Romans.
Edited by PatrickKn (10/28/16 01:46 PM)
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Re: Why trump will win [Re: PatrickKn]
#23780324 - 10/28/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: And violently attacking people whom vote different than you? Time honored tradition as well?
Only when liberals do it.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-17/caught-tape-clinton-funded-democrat-operatives-inciting-anarchy-trump-rallies
You were saying?
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More James O'Keefe edited tapes. Why do you guys keep posting shit from a convicted criminal?
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Re: Why trump will win [Re: Ogla]
#23780338 - 10/28/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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losfreddy said: Simpsons predicted it, you know its a sure thing
dude trump ran for president as a libertarian the year that episode aired, 1999, they weren't "predicting" anything
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Re: Why trump will win [Re: koods]
#23780341 - 10/28/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: More James O'Keefe edited tapes. Why do you guys keep posting shit from a convicted criminal?
Why do you keep supporting a criminal?
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