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mctaveesh
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endogenous said: Entheogens (DMT) are the consciousness of animals. That means that DMT sees all the violence that goes on in the animal kingdom. Over 3000 animals are slaughtered EVERY SECOND by humans.
The closer you get to DMT (or any Entheogen), the more you are going to become conscious of this.
One time on 4-aco-dmt I saw a big factory that was conveyer-belting cows into it, hooking them up to machines, and painfully squeezing all their cow milk out of them.
Then I was like "Who would do this!?"
Then I saw a giant dick outside of the factory, standing upright, with a big smoking cigar in it's mouth. The dick was demanding that every last cow on earth be put into the factory so that we can have our nasty-ass cow milk.
I laughed for half an hour straight after seeing that.
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AstralAndrew
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endogenous said: Entheogens (DMT) are the consciousness of animals. That means that DMT sees all the violence that goes on in the animal kingdom. Over 3000 animals are slaughtered EVERY SECOND by humans.
The closer you get to DMT (or any Entheogen), the more you are going to become conscious of this.
Bad trips are because we eat meat, thank god you figured it out.
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gekkogecko
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endogenous said: Entheogens (DMT) are the consciousness of animals. That means that DMT sees all the violence that goes on in the animal kingdom. Over 3000 animals are slaughtered EVERY SECOND by humans.
The closer you get to DMT (or any Entheogen), the more you are going to become conscious of this.
There's a heck of a lot of animal-on-animal "violence", if you can call it that... you know? I don't know how many insects are brutally murdered every second, but I'm willing to bet well over 3000. The food chain is the food chain.
I've had the feeling numerous times on mushrooms that I don't want to be eating animals. I've gone in hyperspace to various members of the kingdom and looked into their eyes, before determining that I didn't want to eat them. Like fish for instance. I don't want to kill a fish. I don't want to kill anything. Side note, unrelated- I don't advise eating mushrooms and going to the aquarium. Wasn't a fun experience.
But looking around, what are we really supposed to eat for serious calories, if not animals? Grains aren't good for you, plant fats are hard to come by (at least where I am), and dairy has its own moral dilemma. You can stuff yourself with local plants and mushrooms, but how far can that get you? And are you just fasting during the winter? Sorry if I ignore the grocery store here, but I don't think you can both pursue the optimal diet in accordance with the desire of Nature AND count on society to take care of you like an infant.
I think about this all the time, I don't know what the right answers are.
If you want to say, "It's not eating animals that's fucked, it's the agricultural system," then fine, I agree with you, it's nauseating. I honestly think that the concept of raising any animal, feeding it, sheltering it, and caring for it, with the sole intention of killing it for food, to be pretty gross. But if we all turned to hunting, we're running out of deer and turkey before the end of the season. Most areas are too overpopulated.
Oh the topic...
I don't know if there's a direct link to bad DMT trips and diet, although it certainly could be a contributing factor. I think that OP is generally right in his assessment. Some people, however, seem to not have a direct link to the One as they have made the choice at some stage of their journey to separate from that... under all the layers there is simply... nothing. But for those of us with that connection, what is happening when we don't make it? Well, something is blocking us. Where is it blocking us? Where else but in our own energy fields. A human energy body needs to be maintained to be clear of debris, detritus, and parasites. Sometimes it takes a couple tries for the DMT to blast you through it. It might mean a longer come up on mushrooms for your energy to work through the mucky film, to melt away the uninvited houseguests... but take care of your body, take care of your consciousness, stay as clear as you can, and you should be able to overcome any obstacle.
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mctaveesh
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I think the only way we'll be able to fully deal with the animal cruelty thing and just be done with it is by cloning meats.
Then everyone can quit whining and overthinking it.
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endogenous
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mctaveesh said: Then everyone can quit whining and overthinking it.
Yeah, those pigs and cows and chickens should stop whining and over thinking it and let those humans who want to eat them just concentrate on getting heart disease and strokes.
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endogenous
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gekkogecko said:
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endogenous said: Entheogens (DMT) are the consciousness of animals. That means that DMT sees all the violence that goes on in the animal kingdom. Over 3000 animals are slaughtered EVERY SECOND by humans.
The closer you get to DMT (or any Entheogen), the more you are going to become conscious of this.
There's a heck of a lot of animal-on-animal "violence", if you can call it that... you know?
Yeah -- the problem I'm talking about is how to deal with being super conscious of it.
Although, there are a few species that don't kill each other or other animals.
And with all their technical knowledge, humans aren't as advanced as cows.
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endogenous
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gekkogecko said: But looking around, what are we really supposed to eat for serious calories, if not animals?
I'm a lacto/ovo veg. Eggs are supposed to be the best protein. Nut butters, and nuts are good. And soybeans are supposed to have better protein than meat.
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AstralAndrew
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We got to where we are now eating nut butter and soybeans?
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gekkogecko
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gekkogecko said: But looking around, what are we really supposed to eat for serious calories, if not animals?
I'm a lacto/ovo veg. Eggs are supposed to be the best protein. Nut butters, and nuts are good. And soybeans are supposed to have better protein than meat.
Soy contains phytoestrogens and lowers testosterone levels in males. It also is often a product of large-scale unsustainable agriculture.
Nuts, likes grains and legumes, are really high in phytic acid. A heavy diet of phytic acid containing foods (with no meat to compensate) causes iron and zinc deficiencies.
What is a lacto/ovo veg? And what do you gain by that label? Eggs are nice.
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endogenous
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Lacto/ovo means milk and eggs.
I would consider the main danger in eating soy is that non-organic sources are likely to be GMO.
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Since male transgender patients take estrogens to stimulate breast growth, it has been assumed that soy might have the same effect. This appears to be a myth, or at least is not supported in the medical literature.
Probably the greatest amount of research on the long-term effects of soy has to do with soy infant formulas. Some kids can't tolerate regular formula and get switched to formula derived from soybeans and they'll drink this stuff from infancy to one-year of age and beyond. Some kids are raised on soy milk instead of cow's milk their whole lives. A 2004 Italian study of kids raised on soy protein formulas showed no gynecomastia, no early puberty, no changes in their bones and no other signs of screwed up hormones.
--http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-eat/does-soy-really-cause-man-boobs
Neither soy protein nor soy isoflavones had any effect on testosterone levels in adult men who consumed soy foods or products, reports an August 2010 article published in “Fertility and Sterility.” This article was a meta-analysis, which is a review of many studies on one subject.
Another article reported that when male rats were exposed to soy isoflavones in the first three weeks of life, testosterone production increased, according to findings in the February 2014 article in “Biology of Reproduction.”
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