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Why is quality weed so expensive?
#23776857 - 10/27/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can sort of understand why prices get fixed pretty high in a black market, but it seems like even in places where it's legal or sold medicinally the price doesn't go down a whole lot and sometimes it can even be MORE expensive. When I went to Spain I found out weed was quasi-legal in Barcelona and was sold in "Compassion Clubs" and I got a quarter for 55 Euros which at that time was about 85 bucks. It was qualitatively comparable to the weed I get in Texas, which I can get for $90 a quarter. In California the bud was a bit cheaper, I scored a gram of bud similar to what I smoke here for 10 bucks, and there was definitely some amazing stuff going around, but all that A++ stuff sold for the same price as what I pay here if not more.
It seems like in a legal market there ought to be investors and mass producers who are driving the price down, no? I don't know much at all about the weed growing process, is it really enough to justify the seemingly exorbitant prices we see on this small amounts of plant matter? I can't think of any other plant that costs this much by weight
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Re: Why is quality weed so expensive? [Re: morrowasted]
#23776862 - 10/27/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's weird to me too that I can get an ounce of shit weed for 50 bucks but an ounce of good weed costs 6 or 7 times that much. Is it really 6 or 7 times more expensive to grow? Or is it just that they're not growing as much and they need to cover overhead costs?
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Re: Why is quality weed so expensive? [Re: morrowasted]
#23776870 - 10/27/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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also in before the canadians come in here and talk about how they get ounces of super silver white widow haze for 120 dollars an ounce
if the canadians can get weed on the cheap (120/oz was a bit of an exaggeration but still I've heard prices like 200 plenty of times)... and they seem to be in agreement that they can, or else they're all liars... why can't we?
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Re: Why is quality weed so expensive? [Re: morrowasted]
#23776899 - 10/27/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah 200/oz is pretty standard here. I remember going to a Shroomery gathering down in Ohio where a hippy guy sold me an eighth for $50 USD 
I buy medicinal now, and prices for it are all over the place. I might pay $6/g for mid-THC or high CBD stuff, and twice that for the high THC strains.
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Re: Why is quality weed so expensive? [Re: morrowasted]
#23776915 - 10/27/16 02:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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To get that amazing quality of bud a grower has to have a completely controlled room, which is easier said than done. Like if you tried to just throw up a mylar tent in your basement without thoroughly cleaning the basement, your probably about to become acquainted with the micro biome that is your basement. Aka all sorts of mites, their predators, so on so forth. Nutrients cost a BUTT load, to get the best quality plant you normally need an entire line of products from rooting agent to bud booster. Check out biobiz line it's not cheap and there's a lot of shit you need. Then there is maintenance, fans get dusty cause a microniche for mites, and they eat your crop. This is just my two cents, I'd say they're asking a lot but it's kind of deserved, at least just for the DANK, ALOT of work it is.
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Re: Why is quality weed so expensive? [Re: trendal]
#23776925 - 10/27/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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trendal said: Yeah 200/oz is pretty standard here. I remember going to a Shroomery gathering down in Ohio where a hippy guy sold me an eighth for $50 USD 
I buy medicinal now, and prices for it are all over the place. I might pay $6/g for mid-THC or high CBD stuff, and twice that for the high THC strains.
I would LOVE to find some high CBD/low THC strains for 6/gram. I prefer to benefit from the positive effects of marijuana while feeling as little intoxication as possible. THC ruins my short term memory, motivation, focus, and energy. Not to mention it is addictive. But some of the other chemicals in marijuana do wonders for my anxiety, mood, physical pain, etc. If I could find a connect for mexican brick weed I was thinking about buying a shitload of it and using it to make some RSO
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Re: Why is quality weed so expensive? [Re: morrowasted]
#23776948 - 10/27/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Because quality items comes at a higher price.
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Re: Why is quality weed so expensive? [Re: morrowasted] 1
#23776953 - 10/27/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I get lbs of flame indoor for $2k
You just gotta be plugged in.
Personal growers growing 50-100lbs a season outdoor, plus all the indoor growers are driving the "black market" price down. $1,200-$1,800lb But medicinally and at shops, the price seems to be standard all over unless you are a member ime and are able to get $100oz of top shelf out the door.
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Re: Why is quality weed so expensive? [Re: morrowasted]
#23776971 - 10/27/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Because capitalism.
Shops can be more expensive because - they are shops. They have to buy licences and lease buildings and shit. Your street dealer doesn't have those kinds of expenses. Also the shop owner doesn't likely grow and produce all their products so they are often still 2nd hand.
It is supply and demand. Alot of these shops are still growing so the ones that do have their own supply and make their own products are going to sell it for about as much as others so that they can make more profit and in turn make their business larger. Capitalism works like this: You sell for what people will pay. Demand for weed will always be up. Unlike alot of other markets constant production is a very realistic business practice. It wouldn't surprise me if marijuana prices inflate as more and more states legalize it. That is until a super weedmart pops up that does everything for dirt cheap and charges less than everyone else while owning 75% of the dispensaries and still charges 10x the cost of production and expense.
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Re: Why is quality weed so expensive? [Re: morrowasted]
#23776981 - 10/27/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: also in before the canadians come in here and talk about how they get ounces of super silver white widow haze for 120 dollars an ounce
if the canadians can get weed on the cheap (120/oz was a bit of an exaggeration but still I've heard prices like 200 plenty of times)... and they seem to be in agreement that they can, or else they're all liars... why can't we?
 good question, it might just be the over-abundance of growers and dealers at work especially in BC, as 200 an oz is standard even without connections, and even good dispensary weed isn't too pricey.
as for other places, maybe the price was so high to begin with because of prohibition and a shortage of supply, and since being legalized rather than producers lowering the price they kept it stable
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Re: Why is quality weed so expensive? [Re: Ezuma] 1
#23776994 - 10/27/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's textbook economics- Lower supply and higher demand for good bud = higher prices.
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Re: Why is quality weed so expensive? [Re: morrowasted]
#23777077 - 10/27/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Find a better source, 150/oz isn't uncommon for quality stuff but the markets so flooded you can find great stuff for as low as 120/oz or buy bulk like BigWorm said.
Also consider growing your own if possible, you can read up on some cheap simple starting grow methods and go from there.
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Re: Why is quality weed so expensive? [Re: morrowasted] 1
#23777127 - 10/27/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you apply progressive logic to this...
Weed is so expensive because the growers are greedy, the only solution is to give govt complete control of growing and distribution.
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hostileuniverse said: If you apply progressive logic to this...
Weed is so expensive because the growers are greedy, the only solution is to give govt complete control of growing and distribution.
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Re: Why is quality weed so expensive? [Re: morrowasted]
#23777217 - 10/27/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you guys were growers, how much would you sell your product for?
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Re: Why is quality weed so expensive? [Re: shadyy]
#23777259 - 10/27/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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i hate liz said: If you guys were growers, how much would you sell your product for?
That depends on a lot of factors honestly
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Re: Why is quality weed so expensive? [Re: musiclover420]
#23777268 - 10/27/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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just do it
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Re: Why is quality weed so expensive? [Re: musiclover420]
#23777269 - 10/27/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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When I grew back in 2011-2012, I'd sell pounds for $2200 to dispensaries and anyone else if they got to me first. I think dispensaries could flip that for up to 5500 or even 6000, but the price kept things sellable for me and I never had to fuck with selling small amounts of anything which would have been annoying and time consuming.
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Re: Why is quality weed so expensive? [Re: morrowasted] 2
#23778348 - 10/27/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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1. It costs pretty good money to grow top quality herb and maintain a fully controlled indoor environment (which most grows are). To consistently grow top shelf herb which you are supplying to dispensaries and has to meet a certain quality standard requires a lot of time, work and money. People don't give that shit away for free ya know. I wouldn't. My time and work is worth something.
2. Not so much of an issue anymore in many states... but... Illegal.
- It's like the people who think people should just give acid away to everyone for free. Because it's acid. That's a great concept and all.. if you shit sheets of LSD or are made of money and don't care. But you can't feed yourself with nothing but sheets of acid, I've tried
It's not like the guy giving it to you isn't risking 4 concurrent life sentences in prison to bring it to you. Is $5-10 too much to ask for an 8 hour trip when the person giving it to you is risking their very freedom to do so? Are they greedy capitalist pig for wanting something back for their investment and risking THEIR freedom and bringing you something YOU want? Anyone who thinks that is probably retarded. Sure the guy selling hits for 25 a pop is kind of a dick.... and the guy selling nbomes and trying to pass it off as LSD can go fuck himself with a ten foot spear.. But when people complain about having to pay fucking $5 or $10 for a hit of real genuine LSD, I just want to bitch smack them... hard. Risk VS Reward. Want vs Need. LSD doesn't fall from the fucking sky. Weed grows everywhere on the planet but top shelf weed doesn't fall from the sky either. People will gladly go waste $150 on a night of drinking they don't remember and feel like shit the next day but somehow spending a little bit of money on "the good" drugs is criminal or something. I don't get it personally... it makes no sense. If you don't want to pay for it then grow or make it yourself. But that usually costs money too AND requires.. effort
Even in states where pot was legal or decriminalized, dispensaries and growers following the law to the T got their shit raided by Feds. That's a risk you take. If pot was legal universally it would be much cheaper, because everyone would be growing it. It's MUCH more accepted now.. but it's still illegal federally and in a ton of states. It's in a grey area.
3. Supply and demand. This is pretty basic.... if everyone and their brother was growing top shelf herb, the prices would drop significantly.
4. You are usually paying the markup for several middle-men in-between you and the grower. Consider a dispensary a brick and mortar retail store like Best Buy or anything else, you are paying full price or a high markup. You buy at a dispensary you are also paying their rent. TVs don't cost hundreds of dollars to make but people gladly pay that all day long. Unless you want to make one yourself and save some money or find the Chinese connection.. you are paying for the convenience. Are all the TV makers in collusion to fix the prices? Maybe... or maybe that's just the accepted standard which they've decided they can sell them at and pay all their employees and stay in business.
Want to avoid it all? Make friends with a grower and pay the wholesale prices. Or become one yourself.
Not necessarily addressing you in these points... you're just asking a good simple question to which there's numerous variables, but these are some attitudes I've seen.
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Re: Why is quality weed so expensive? [Re: Shroomism] 1
#23778530 - 10/27/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fucking well said, man.
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It's like the people who think people should just give acid away to everyone for free. Because it's acid. That's a great concept and all.. if you shit sheets of LSD or are made of money and don't care. But you can't feed yourself with nothing but sheets of acid, I've tried
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