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Continued mycelium growth but no fruiting in fruiting chamber * 1
    #23775981 - 10/27/16 09:09 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Hello, I did a bunch of research before posting this question and I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.

This is my second grow following PF Tek.  First one went perfectly and everything turned out great.  This one, I'm confused...

inoculated 9 jars.  Waited a week past 100% colonization.  Birthed, did a dunk-n-roll (24 hour dunk).  Fruiting chamber is 73 degrees, 95% humidity.  8 hrs/day of indirect natural light.  Lifting the lid and fanning 4-5 times/day.  Cakes have been in the chamber for a week.

I have one cake that is showing a small amount of fruit.  On the rest, no fruit, no pins - the mycelium just continues to grow, in some cases now growing over the vermiculite from the dunk-n-roll.

Can anyone help me get these cakes to kick into fruiting mode?

Thanks!

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Re: Continued mycelium growth but no fruiting in fruiting chamber [Re: JumboJimbo] * 1
    #23776001 - 10/27/16 09:16 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Continued mycelium growth but no fruiting in fruiting chamber [Re: The Mycologist] * 1
    #23776023 - 10/27/16 09:29 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

What he said ^


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Re: Continued mycelium growth but no fruiting in fruiting chamber [Re: JumboJimbo] * 1
    #23776036 - 10/27/16 09:37 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Pinning is a slow process. it can take up to two to three weeks with some strains.

Be patient.

If your cakes are getting cotton-ball fuzzy, u need to increase FAE.


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Re: Continued mycelium growth but no fruiting in fruiting chamber [Re: van hatton] * 2
    #23776044 - 10/27/16 09:39 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It can take up to 3 weeks to fruit depending on genetics.

Pictures will help us see if there are any obvious mistakes but don't worry and don't over do anything.

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Re: Continued mycelium growth but no fruiting in fruiting chamber [Re: Edmunter] * 1
    #23776293 - 10/27/16 10:56 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

They're never going to fruit if your whole fruiting chamber is 95% RH. At least not well. It's built wrong if the humidity is that high

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Re: Continued mycelium growth but no fruiting in fruiting chamber [Re: Edmunter] * 1
    #23776303 - 10/27/16 10:59 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks, all, for the quick responses.  This is a slightly different strain from my first try, so maybe it's just a slower mover than I had before.  Based on your comments, I'll try not to panic for a couple more weeks.

Chaos - you reference FAE - is this fresh air exchange (guessing)?  If so, I have over a hundred 1/4" holes drilled in my chamber and I'm fanning regularly.  How can I improve on this?  Again, sorry for the noob question.

For those that requested pics:
The cakes:


Mycelium growing over verm:


The one cake that is fruiting:


Again - my thanks to all!

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Re: Continued mycelium growth but no fruiting in fruiting chamber [Re: JumboJimbo] * 1
    #23776308 - 10/27/16 11:01 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

trim the foil back.

cakes like varying humidity. Are u misting then letting it dry then misting again?

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Re: Continued mycelium growth but no fruiting in fruiting chamber [Re: JumboJimbo] * 1
    #23776309 - 10/27/16 11:02 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You cannot adjust FAE in a SGFC. It's either built correctly or not

Fanning is 100% pointless. The chamber has hundreds of holes its like rolling a window down on a motorcycle

Fanning was to remove mist particles after misting and only that reason. If you're fanning more times than you mist you didn't read the directions.

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Re: Continued mycelium growth but no fruiting in fruiting chamber [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #23776338 - 10/27/16 11:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Chaos - will trim the foil, thanks for the suggestion!

Bodhisatta - what humidity should I be at?  You say 95% is too high - what is just right?  As for fanning, I was under the impression that it was helpful in order to remove CO2?  Does FAE mean "fresh air exchange"?  And what does SGFC mean?  Again - noob here, not yet familiar with the lingo... 

Lastly, I'm not misting manually - I have a reptile mister to provide humidity. I can just turn it down (or on/off) if that will improve results.

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Re: Continued mycelium growth but no fruiting in fruiting chamber [Re: JumboJimbo] * 1
    #23776423 - 10/27/16 11:36 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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Chaos - will trim the foil, thanks for the suggestion!

Bodhisatta - what humidity should I be at?  You say 95% is too high - what is just right?  As for fanning, I was under the impression that it was helpful in order to remove CO2?  Does FAE mean "fresh air exchange"?  And what does SGFC mean?  Again - noob here, not yet familiar with the lingo... 

Lastly, I'm not misting manually - I have a reptile mister to provide humidity. I can just turn it down (or on/off) if that will improve results.



You shouldn't be measuring humidity
SGFC means shot gun fruiting chamber. Could look that up in the time it took to post. What directions did you follow to make your fruiting chamber?

If you did measure humidity with an ACCURATE hydrometer it would be 50-70 and fluctuate.

FAE is fresh air exchange. It is automatic, because of the holes in the chamber

Co2 doesn't get removed, co2 mixes with air immediately it doesn't settle out, or cars would kill us. And no one could work in a brewery.

Fanning is not FAE. To make fanning equal to fae you would fan 6-10 times an hour. Hence putting holes in the chamber

You mist your cakes 0-5 times a day depending if they need it or not.

Humidity needs to be 90-99% but only less than inch from the surface of the cake. As it evaporates off into the air around it

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Re: Continued mycelium growth but no fruiting in fruiting chamber [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #23776445 - 10/27/16 11:42 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I typed a massive thing that's exactly what he said aha ^

You wanna follow your tek to a t until you get it down then try something different


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Re: Continued mycelium growth but no fruiting in fruiting chamber *DELETED* [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #23776461 - 10/27/16 11:46 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Continued mycelium growth but no fruiting in fruiting chamber [Re: JumboJimbo] * 1
    #23776490 - 10/27/16 11:52 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Just trying to get people to be self sufficient and think outside the box. Cultivation skills extended past just cultivation.

Maybe im condescending but there's noobs who's first post is 12 cakes fruiting wonderfully. The info is out there. Sometimes I just re-type it

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Re: Continued mycelium growth but no fruiting in fruiting chamber [Re: JumboJimbo] * 1
    #23776494 - 10/27/16 11:53 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Was that a speck of green on one of those picture?

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Re: Continued mycelium growth but no fruiting in fruiting chamber [Re: Edmunter] * 1
    #23776510 - 10/27/16 11:57 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Edmunter - nah, no speck of green - although I did go back and have a close look at that cake after I posted the photo.  It's a shiny piece of verm that is reflecting the green from the foil.  Good eye, tho!

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Re: Continued mycelium growth but no fruiting in fruiting chamber [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #23776514 - 10/27/16 11:59 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Bod - LOL - OK, that's fair.  I actually should have posted my first cultivation, as I had 10 cakes that fruited brilliantly and I got 3 really nice flushes out of them.  Thought I was duplicating that effort this time but ran into the issues described in this thread.

The info is appreciated - truly!

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Re: Continued mycelium growth but no fruiting in fruiting chamber [Re: JumboJimbo] * 1
    #23776520 - 10/27/16 12:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Now thats the way to make up quick.  Im taking notes..:takingnotes:

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Re: Continued mycelium growth but no fruiting in fruiting chamber [Re: Edmunter] * 1
    #23776562 - 10/27/16 12:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

LOL!!  Yep!  I can get a little surly when I feel I'm being talked down to or disrespected, but I don't hold a grudge.  Life's too short to go carrying anger around, amiright?

BTW - 15 years happily (REALLY happily!!) married to my best friend, mostly because we don't hold on to stuff once it's resolved :smile:

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Re: Continued mycelium growth but no fruiting in fruiting chamber [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #23776568 - 10/27/16 12:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

bodhisatta said:
Quote:

JumboJimbo said:
Chaos - will trim the foil, thanks for the suggestion!

Bodhisatta - what humidity should I be at?  You say 95% is too high - what is just right?  As for fanning, I was under the impression that it was helpful in order to remove CO2?  Does FAE mean "fresh air exchange"?  And what does SGFC mean?  Again - noob here, not yet familiar with the lingo... 

Lastly, I'm not misting manually - I have a reptile mister to provide humidity. I can just turn it down (or on/off) if that will improve results.



You shouldn't be measuring humidity
SGFC means shot gun fruiting chamber. Could look that up in the time it took to post. What directions did you follow to make your fruiting chamber?

If you did measure humidity with an ACCURATE hydrometer it would be 50-70 and fluctuate.

FAE is fresh air exchange. It is automatic, because of the holes in the chamber

Co2 doesn't get removed, co2 mixes with air immediately it doesn't settle out, or cars would kill us. And no one could work in a brewery.

Fanning is not FAE. To make fanning equal to fae you would fan 6-10 times an hour. Hence putting holes in the chamber

You mist your cakes 0-5 times a day depending if they need it or not.

Humidity needs to be 90-99% but only less than inch from the surface of the cake. As it evaporates off into the air around it




This isn't condescending at all. These vets here see your very same post day in and day out. He's 100% correct and apparently in a very generous mood. I haven't been here very long and I've grown weary of  :spoonfeedme:  the simplest searchable information.

I hope some of crew who are at their day jobs don't catch wind of your noob with a tood for your threads sake. GL with your grow.


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