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#23781431 - 10/28/16 10:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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lukehighwalker710 said: I don't understand how voting against AUMA is voting for prohibition.
The prison industry does, and they are fighting the AUMA hard. Are you sure you want to be on the same side of this issue as the police and prisons, both of who make money locking people up?
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Adult possession of cannabis in California is not a crime. Its been decriminalized for years now. And the ability to get your medical card and cultivate even longer.
People should not have to lie to a doctor to be able to buy weed legally and carry it around. Also, the smell of weed should not be probable cause for a search.
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#23782777 - 10/29/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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lukehighwalker710 said: I don't understand how voting against AUMA is voting for prohibition. Adult possession of cannabis in California is not a crime. Its been decriminalized for years now. And the ability to get your medical card and cultivate even longer.
Bullshit. Adult possession of cannabis IS A CRIME. It is an infraction subject to a fine. That is not the same as legal. Legal is like possession of beer if you are over 21. No fine, no citiation.
Luke you are spreading bullshit.
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Re: US 'could legalise cannabis across country' in wake of California decriminalisation vote [Re: Gravity] 1
#23782848 - 10/29/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Decriminalization of marijuana, which treats the possession of small amounts of the drug as a civil, rather than a criminal, offense, was established in July 1975 when the Legislature passed Senate Bill 95, the Moscone Act.[11][13][14][15] SB 95 made possession of one ounce (28.5 grams) of marijuana a misdemeanor punishable by a $100 fine[16] (with the assessments added to fines in California, this will total about $480), with higher punishments for amounts greater than one ounce, for possession on school grounds, or for cultivation.[17]
Proposition 36 (also known as the Substance Abuse and Crime Prevention Act of 2000) was approved by 61% of voters, requiring that "first- and second-offense drug violators be sent to drug treatment programs instead of facing trial and possible incarceration."[18] Marijuana remains decriminalized in California today.[17]
On September 30, 2010, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed into law CA State Senate Bill 1449, effectively reducing the charge of possession of up to one ounce of cannabis from a misdemeanor to a violation, similar to a traffic violation, with a $100 fine and no mandatory court appearance or criminal record.[1] The law became effective January 1, 2011.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_California#Decriminalization
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Re: US 'could legalise cannabis across country' in wake of California decriminalisation vote [Re: Gravity]
#23782850 - 10/29/16 02:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The bullshit about cannabis legalization is the won't allow felons to grow commercially. A felon can get a brewing and distilling lisence from the Feds.
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Re: US 'could legalise cannabis across country' in wake of California decriminalisation vote [Re: lukehighwalker710]
#23782854 - 10/29/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not legal, no. But that's not what I said. Decriminalized, yes. Legalization, at least under AUMA, has many more problems than benefits to the state of California.
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Re: US 'could legalise cannabis across country' in wake of California decriminalisation vote [Re: lukehighwalker710]
#23782870 - 10/29/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The prison industry does, and they are fighting the AUMA hard. Are you sure you want to be on the same side of this issue as the police and prisons, both of who make money locking people up?
Yes, I'm sure. Problem riddled legislation..
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People should not have to lie to a doctor to be able to buy weed legally and carry it around. Also, the smell of weed should not be probable cause for a search.
Its stupidly easy to get a recommendation, often not even requiring lying. But I get your point, yes we shouldn't be punished for enjoying cannabis however we need more appropriate legislation. Just because this bill accomplishes one goal, we shouldn't overlook the many problems it'll bring along. The smell of weed for probable search bit is a good one for future legislation though I would agree!
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Re: US 'could legalise cannabis across country' in wake of California decriminalisation vote [Re: Morel Guy]
#23783135 - 10/29/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: The bullshit about cannabis legalization is the won't allow felons to grow commercially. A felon can get a brewing and distilling lisence from the Feds.
The AUMA, prop 64 allows drug felons to get Cannabis cultivation licenses.
Vote yes on prop 64!
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Re: US 'could legalise cannabis across country' in wake of California decriminalisation vote [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#23783174 - 10/29/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's cool. I was generally speaking as in Ohio felons cannot even work a grow site. My family owns land and was going to put 14 acres to cultivation. I got a record which was strangely about growing weed. Plus it's a federal crime and wouldn't risk family with that!
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Re: US 'could legalise cannabis across country' in wake of California decriminalisation vote [Re: lukehighwalker710]
#23783839 - 10/29/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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lukehighwalker710 said: In Washington, now that they have eliminated the medical market and closed down all the dispensaries and forced everything to be run on the recreational market, they have also eliminated home growing . Its now a felony to grow without a license in Washington. Don't let California follow in Washington misteps!
Yet home raids are minimal. I just came from Washington. People grow a few plants there like it's no big deal. Is it not worth the courts time to bust people for small amounts?
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Re: US 'could legalise cannabis across country' in wake of California decriminalisation vote [Re: lukehighwalker710]
#23783999 - 10/29/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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lukehighwalker710 said: Not legal, no. But that's not what I said. Decriminalized, yes. Legalization, at least under AUMA, has many more problems than benefits to the state of California.
No, it doesn't. This law allows responsible adults to possess and smoke marijuana and to legally cultivate it in their homes. CA also stands to benefit greatly from much needed tax revenues. Marijuana doesn't need to be decriminalized it needs to be legal.
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#23784008 - 10/29/16 10:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pot smokers voting against legal pot LOL
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#23784081 - 10/29/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ONE OZ SLUG said: Pot smokers voting against legal pot LOL
When you find yourself on the same side of an issue like marijuana legalization as the prison guards, that's a pretty clear sign that it's time to rethink things.
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Re: US 'could legalise cannabis across country' in wake of California decriminalisation vote [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#23784213 - 10/30/16 12:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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my two cents. After this November, it's likely the S will HTF and go everywhere, nobody will dodge a nice brown chunk and stain. By next November, you could have 10 foot cannabis trees in your back yard right next to the tomatoes and no one will give a damn. You'll be growing it not because you want cash or to get high, but to trade for other things like bread, beans and butter and use it as medication. Also it's very likely BO will federally decriminalize it sometime in late November or early December, not because of the legalization by states, but because the LEOs and intelligence resources used for it's enforcement will be needed for other more pressing matters. Before the end you'll probably be wishing you were born Amish. It's gonna get real.
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Re: US 'could legalise cannabis across country' in wake of California decriminalisation vote [Re: Eywa_devotee]
#23784702 - 10/30/16 08:52 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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A few Amish grow dope and it's great!
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Re: US 'could legalise cannabis across country' in wake of California decriminalisation vote [Re: Morel Guy]
#23789785 - 10/31/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The legalization terms seem like a great start, they can always be adjusted over the years
There's no way pot will be legalized under perfect terms off the bat, that's a pipe dream, for public relations sake no state or the feds would do that. They have to appease the average voter as well as potheads.
This fear of corporations some people have is ridiculous, corporations will get into everything inevitably, loosen up your buttholes, there are a good number of thriving small-time pot shops in WA. You can sell yourself without a license and the cops won't give a shit, etc.
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#23790755 - 11/01/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Good job doing your part as an anti-legalization propaganda tool
The corrupt pharmaceutical, prison and law enforcement agencies are proud
I wonder how many of the talking points you've been parroting they wrote
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Re: US 'could legalise cannabis across country' in wake of California decriminalisation vote [Re: Repertoire89]
#23791049 - 11/01/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lol prison actually makes sense I suppose. But big pharma?? They're all for Prop 64. Haven't you been paying attention to anything I've said??
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#23792851 - 11/01/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Big pharma is not Big Agriculture. How many pharmaceutical companies can you name that are currently involved in agriculture? These guys will have a lot of catching up to do if they want to grow good weed. Nobody has been doing it longer than California growers.
This fear that somehow the large corporations will "take over" is ridiculous. Fist of all, Proposition 64 gives some protection to small growers. And secondly, please allow me to bring your attention to two thriving entrepreneurial industries - MICROBREW BEER and BOUTIQUE WINE. Listen, I know I can buy cheap, mass-produced beer but, God help me, I always buy Sierra Nevada, or Laganitus, Or Bear Republic, or Drakes, etc., etc. The same for wine. Sure I could buy jugs of Earnest and Gallo, but somehow I always buy a wine that tastes good.
The same is going to be true of weed as soon as it is legalized. Will big companies like Marlboro, for example, want to get a piece of the action? Almost certainly. But it doesn't mean that you'll have to BUY that shit. (No offense to anybody that happens to like Marlboro. I really couldn't care less.)
Prop 64 also gives tens of thousands of people the chance to reduce their criminal sentence or be released from prison. The legalization of pot will become retroactive meaning that growers and small-time dealers that got busted in the past can have their sentences reduced. How can you be against that?
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