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The Psychedelic Mind of a Child ?
    #23775200 - 10/26/16 11:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Do any of you shroomerites recall, viscerally, the way(s) you thought as a child?
It is commonplace to say that psychedelics put one in a childlike state, but do any of you fine fellows recall thinking in visuals, the way one (or I at any rate) does when tripping or very stoned?
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I can't be sure the memories are accurate, obviously, but I seem to recall that I would think in a highly visual manner. I still think in terms of 'images' and have a near photographic memory, but when younger these images would be less discernible from consensus reality, as in a trip.

For example, I would look at the pattern in the fur of a tortoiseshell or tabby cat, and lose myself in the forms and colors, and the forms and colors themselves would take over, coming alive in motion and morphing off of the cat and out of context, into an intense animation-like daydream reminiscent of trans-formative cartoon art from the psychedelic era or genres. 

:peak:

I tend to recall very strongly moments like this when I become very stoned, so I assume many of the memories are false, but there seems to be some reality to it. After all, when I tripped for the first time it seemed like a homecoming, like rediscovering a lost area of my mind that had once been a constant accompaniment

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Re: The Psychedelic Mind of a Child ? [Re: Ezuma]
    #23775250 - 10/26/16 11:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Not in the way your talking about. But in the past I was able to smoke, and put my mind in a child like state. I remember playing in the park with the kids, and being overwhelmed by the wonder and excitement of playing in the park like a child.


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Re: The Psychedelic Mind of a Child ? [Re: alexmir]
    #23775286 - 10/27/16 12:07 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

As a child I remember sticking my face into the pillow and have all sorts of visuals to one point where I felt my self getting bigger and bigger until I covered the whole universe, some kind of unity with all.

I also liked to feel weird while asking question like "who created god?" "What was before everything?". It gave me this weird sense of knowing the answer but I've been brain washed so I thought that it's just me... and there is definitely a god in the sense of a big guy judging us up there in the Sky, because they told me so.

Psychedelics sure gives me a reminder.


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Re: The Psychedelic Mind of a Child ? [Re: ZacksJourney]
    #23775292 - 10/27/16 12:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

weird to rediscover those memories, aint it?
I find that now I recall them, I can enter similar states of mind with a very casual kind of meditation, merely consciously altering/focusing/or perhas de-focusing my attention and thoughts, and then I can kind of bootstrap myself to this  free-flowing daydream state

fun stuff :jah:


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Re: The Psychedelic Mind of a Child ? [Re: ZacksJourney]
    #23775303 - 10/27/16 12:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Very different than what we're talking about. But a good friend of mine had a breakthrough experience on DMT, he said he was in a dark space really comfortable, and then saw himself go through a woman's legs and felt squeezed and pushed. Then got an abrupt and traumatic bump. 

He realized when he came out that he went through his actual birth from his mother, and she had a really tough delivery. It took him a while to process it, he had a pretty powerful trip regrowing through his birth


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Re: The Psychedelic Mind of a Child ? [Re: alexmir]
    #23775306 - 10/27/16 12:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

that would be pretty powerful, also unpleasant I'd think ?


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Re: The Psychedelic Mind of a Child ? [Re: Ezuma]
    #23775308 - 10/27/16 12:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Do any of you shroomerites recall, viscerally, the way(s) you thought as a child?
It is commonplace to say that psychedelics put one in a childlike state, but do any of you fine fellows recall thinking in visuals, the way one (or I at any rate) does when tripping or very stoned?
:awecid:
I can't be sure the memories are accurate, obviously, but I seem to recall that I would think in a highly visual manner. I still think in terms of 'images' and have a near photographic memory, but when younger these images would be less discernible from consensus reality, as in a trip.

For example, I would look at the pattern in the fur of a tortoiseshell or tabby cat, and lose myself in the forms and colors, and the forms and colors themselves would take over, coming alive in motion and morphing off of the cat and out of context, into an intense animation-like daydream reminiscent of trans-formative cartoon art from the psychedelic era or genres. 

:peak:

I tend to recall very strongly moments like this when I become very stoned, so I assume many of the memories are false, but there seems to be some reality to it. After all, when I tripped for the first time it seemed like a homecoming, like rediscovering a lost area of my mind that had once been a constant accompaniment

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I've always said that when you are between the ages of 2ish to 6 or 8, it's much like a tripping phase. My son is 8 and nearing the end. Makes me a tad sad.
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Re: The Psychedelic Mind of a Child ? [Re: azur]
    #23775319 - 10/27/16 12:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

animals often seem to act like they're tripping too, so naturally I tend to imagine -probably erroneously- that I can almost 'feel' the way they think, especially when high or tripping. I had an intense experience staring at a kitten last night, and it staring back into my eyes and there was this moment where I had a sudden visceral conception of what I was then, in that cat's eyes, and had the sense that by stilling the mind we can almost extend our consciousness beyond the physical locus of the self into the shared mind of reality (or something of the ilk)

not a thought that holds up in any argumentative sense, but the experience of it is beautiful to me, whether or not it is an imagined connection or a real one, after all are we not the creators of our own reality?

(sorry if I ramble, I'm rather stoned)
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Re: The Psychedelic Mind of a Child ? [Re: azur] * 1
    #23775330 - 10/27/16 12:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

When young I lacked a huge arsenal of symbols and instead of contextualizing and naming forms that we perceive with senses It would merely be happening like an absorption.  Really living like it is right now because it is right now kind of thing!

As I grew older and more and more conceptualization occurred an almost matrix like veil is now projected somewhat imaginably over everything upon 1-2 mins after waking up from sleep and its the whole dualism thing.

Being a Kid was great before that took place and its fine for survival now but i miss it at times, now that im older certain dosages of trips certainly bring me back to myself and I can actually remember that the "matrix/dualism" thing between myself and the environment is actually a fabrication that I can catch in the act and stop it, kind of like a self-casting spell that causes forgetfulness and falling for a prescribed kind of reality instead of an open, spontaneous, unitive, intuitive one.

I love when that happens I catch it happening and am like WOW i didn't even realize I was doing that! then instead of letting it come to fruition it is subjugated and experience is pure absorption and almost solipsistic but that's a crude way of putting it, more like my natural experience before learning my left from right was and is the natural primordial mystical experience.  Love it. Feels like unbridled release and unbinding.


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Re: The Psychedelic Mind of a Child ? [Re: Ezuma]
    #23775350 - 10/27/16 12:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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that would be pretty powerful, also unpleasant I'd think ?



He's the unafraid psychonaut in our group, but this trip took him a while to work through.

It was much longer and more intense than I described of course.


I grew up in an extremely script, cult like religion. So alot of my imagination and thinking you guys are talking about was squashed


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Re: The Psychedelic Mind of a Child ? [Re: alexmir]
    #23775364 - 10/27/16 12:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Ezuma said:
that would be pretty powerful, also unpleasant I'd think ?



He's the unafraid psychonaut in our group, but this trip took him a while to work through.

It was much longer and more intense than I described of course.


I grew up in an extremely script, cult like religion. So alot of my imagination and thinking you guys are talking about was squashed




So was I!  My natural state was filled with their interprtation of reality and symbols and traditions and rituals, but if not theirs it wouldv been someone elses, tis the neccesary evil for growing up, having some model imposed on you where you learn some basic skills of how to live in the world with others and to progress where u can eventually care for urself.  Once i learned how to unlearn things got fun again.  Because now I play life.


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Re: The Psychedelic Mind of a Child ? [Re: azur] * 1
    #23775430 - 10/27/16 01:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

discus chaotically



I've always said that when you are between the ages of 2ish to 6 or 8, it's much like a tripping phase. My son is 8 and nearing the end. Makes me a tad sad.
Nice thread op




My daughter is only 3 years old now, but I think that it's up to us to give them the notion that the way they perceive life is totally fine, after all, there is no law of nature that says that in this and this age the mind is changing and you get imaginatively numb. What changes us is the society that tries to convince us that it's right and in that making us boring.

I always tell my kid that I'm going to work to play, even when it seems that what I do is "really serious", it's just a game for me.

Growing up is giving up.


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Re: The Psychedelic Mind of a Child ? [Re: ZacksJourney]
    #23776129 - 10/27/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I personally feel much younger than my age whenever I smoke cannabis or take a small dose of LSD. I remember throwing balls of wet clay at my old shed and everytime it stuck to the shed I would be so happy. Everything just had a feel good happy vibe to it. I remember seeing spongebob kalideoscoping with my mirror too. That was roughly 50-60 ug lsd and I loved it. The first time I tripped was when I was 12 and it was 6 HBWR seeds. I believe that trip has helped me think of things differently. At that time I was suicidal and really depressed at such a young age. I used cough syrup and sometimes 10 or more benedryl pills everyday. After tripping on the HBWR seeds I never really touched that stuff again. Cannabis also makes me want to enjoy being around kids and just overall makes me feel like a kid again.


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Re: The Psychedelic Mind of a Child ? [Re: Herbgrower12]
    #23776168 - 10/27/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Your trade ratings make you look like a little kid too...


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Re: The Psychedelic Mind of a Child ? [Re: azur]
    #23776329 - 10/27/16 11:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

haha, lets not forget the times it makes reminds you of getting/being OLD OLD OLD!


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Re: The Psychedelic Mind of a Child ? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23776411 - 10/27/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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haha, lets not forget the times it makes reminds you of getting/being OLD OLD OLD!




the LSD body-aches always do that for me :tongue: feels like what I imagine I'll feel like when I'm nearly dead, constantly sore and stiff and frail...
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Re: The Psychedelic Mind of a Child ? [Re: Ezuma]
    #23776417 - 10/27/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah the body load types too.  Iv got pretty severe rheumatoid arthritis and combined with tripping I feel like I age a few years in maturity but my body feels like its about to fall apart and blow away in the wind, it sucks and is wonderful at the same time.


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Re: The Psychedelic Mind of a Child ? [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23776843 - 10/27/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

i know i felt naturally enlightened as a child and "psychedelics" just made the world seem LESS magical to me


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Re: The Psychedelic Mind of a Child ? [Re: yogashaman21]
    #23776980 - 10/27/16 02:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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i know i felt naturally enlightened as a child and "psychedelics" just made the world seem LESS magical to me




How's that?


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