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FriedEgg


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list your successful shortcuts 1
#23774206 - 10/26/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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share the shortcuts you use that actually work for you in the long run
here are mine:
- not using a liner
- fruiting at spawn
- bucket tek
- not soaking grain
- not excessively drying grain. i under hydrate it slightly so i can give it a quick strain and then PC it.
- no dunking. i just pour water over the substrate. some rolls off the side and gets soaked up from the bottom too
- no twisting and pulling fruits when harvesting. i just cut at the base without plucking
soon i will get rid of:
- casing
- misting and fanning
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: FriedEgg]
#23774221 - 10/26/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Soaking spawn...g2g...agar...slants...shroomery..labeling have all helped me cut my times back.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: cronicr]
#23774269 - 10/26/16 06:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Float small plastic boxes inside a large plastic bin, and use aquarium heater to maintain temps and humidity.
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Inocuole
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: ellomello]
#23774282 - 10/26/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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-Don't read posts
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: ellomello]
#23774289 - 10/26/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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ellomello said: Float small plastic boxes inside a large plastic bin, and use aquarium heater to maintain temps and humidity.
Lol!! TiTs and aquarium heaters? This just in, the 90s is back!
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: Inocuole]
#23774294 - 10/26/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mad Season said:
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ellomello said: Float small plastic boxes inside a large plastic bin, and use aquarium heater to maintain temps and humidity.
Lol!! TiTs and aquarium heaters? This just in, the 90s is back!
See, when these things happen I just
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Inocuole said: -Don't read posts
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: Mad Season]
#23774307 - 10/26/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mad Season said:
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ellomello said: Float small plastic boxes inside a large plastic bin, and use aquarium heater to maintain temps and humidity.
Lol!! TiTs and aquarium heaters? This just in, the 90s is back!
Yeah man it works great, the 90's were awe=sum !
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: Inocuole]
#23774313 - 10/26/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Haha I love not reading paragraphs of nub squabble and asking if they use agar 
@ell my name is from the 90s :P. Good music, awful cultivation.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: Inocuole]
#23774402 - 10/26/16 07:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I tend to skip lining my trays with plastic. Reason...I can clean my trays with a power washer with soap dispenser a lot faster than I can cut and trim plastic sheeting for all of them. In my experiences thus far, I usually get burned when I take shortcuts. Learning proper techniques (thanks shroomery) and sticking to them have saved me more time and resources than any shortcut ever could. My booty drawer has never been fuller either. Kind of an oxy moron...successful shortcuts. That is all.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: WeavieWonder]
#23774432 - 10/26/16 07:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If I had a power washer I'd totally do that but right now it's faster to drop the liner in, mix up the sub, then take a blade around it right below the holes. Problem with that is if you nick the box up, it can start hanging onto bits of stuff and become a contamination vector. Scissors are a pretty safe alternative, assuming you know how to hold them locked and slide forward for that perfect cut.
Even more recently than that though, I've just been using the liner as is and saying fuck it. It doesn't block the bottom poly badly enough to fuck shit up, really, depending on your tub or bag size. I try to match em up as best I can, obviously.
I also like being able to lift them using the liner. If I get a contaminated tub for any reason. (and every tub will contaminate eventually) the last thing I wanna do is fuckin touch it. Contaminated substates get squishy and nasty and often fall apart in the process of dealing with them, spreading shit everywhere.
Edited by Inocuole (10/26/16 07:36 PM)
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: Inocuole]
#23774449 - 10/26/16 07:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Didn't wash coir, verm or worm dukie, no holes in tub, no liner, no added water, no misting, no casing.
Have pins forming as of today. It's under a t5 though.
This was done in a mini mono with some spent jars that took too long to recover.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: Terpfreak]
#23774458 - 10/26/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Uh, said worm turds were pasteurized though right?
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: Inocuole]
#23774467 - 10/26/16 07:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nope! Did absolutely nothing. I wasn't expecting anything to come of it to be honest.
Normally yes, everything would be cleaned.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: Terpfreak] 1
#23774472 - 10/26/16 07:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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... I wouldn't list this under "Successful shortcuts" just yet.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: Inocuole]
#23774485 - 10/26/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree inoc , just posting here since this is something I've JUST now done.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: Terpfreak]
#23774590 - 10/26/16 08:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The guy actually has an interesting topic he wants to discuss and all you guys can do is knock the 90's? You wouldn't be growing shit without people like Nan and Bob and you can mark my fucking words on that.
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FriedEgg


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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: Huxley123]
#23774715 - 10/26/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Huxley123 said: The guy actually has an interesting topic he wants to discuss and all you guys can do is knock the 90's? You wouldn't be growing shit without people like Nan and Bob and you can mark my fucking words on that.
i'm pretty sure ellomello was joking. at least i hope so. using an aquarium heater is not a shortcut.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: Huxley123]
#23774719 - 10/26/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Huxley123 said: The guy actually has an interesting topic he wants to discuss and all you guys can do is knock the 90's? You wouldn't be growing shit without people like Nan and Bob and you can mark my fucking words on that.
You registered just to say that? Great, just the type of users we need.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: Inocuole]
#23774828 - 10/26/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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don't cut corners, if your mindset is wanting to cut corners. do everyone a favor buy a kit and don't post here. you're not a mushroom grower your a druggie who wants some cheap drugs. we're druggies that give a fuck about cultivation, we grow felonies, there's no room for people who don't give a fuck here. research new methods, successful ones, that have repeated success and have been proven by that success. and then don't deviate from that. act cool when you finally know what the fuck you're doing give advice from experience not conjecture
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: bodhisatta]
#23774922 - 10/26/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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How the fuck do you post so much? Good stuff on the Franks tek thread by the way. That's real progress in my opinion
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: bodhisatta]
#23774929 - 10/26/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: don't cut corners, if your mindset is wanting to cut corners. do everyone a favor buy a kit and don't post here. you're not a mushroom grower your a druggie who wants some cheap drugs. we're druggies that give a fuck about cultivation, we grow felonies, there's no room for people who don't give a fuck here. research new methods, successful ones, that have repeated success and have been proven by that success. and then don't deviate from that. act cool when you finally know what the fuck you're doing give advice from experience not conjecture
somebody is in a bad mood...
if you can get the same results with less work, why is that a bad thing? that's called EFFICIENCY, not cutting corners.
seriously dude you sound really grouchy, wtf is wrong with you?
Edited by FriedEgg (10/26/16 10:24 PM)
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: FriedEgg]
#23774971 - 10/26/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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maybe your thread should be 'mush cult hacks' or something. because 'short cuts'+mush cult=high failure rate.
buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut for the threads sake..
i use a pair of curved nail clippers for snipping pieces of culture to transfer to new plates. the curved clippers really help in dropping onto new plates and is great for gathering tissue for clones. much easier then using a scalpel or knife.
and not quite a short cut but using micopore tape instead of poly on tubs is the shiznit.
also not sure why i did this but the other day i took a print but the cap was kinda slippery so i put it ontop of a shot glass with 10cc of sterile water. so the spores dropped right into the water which was sucked up into a syringe instead of printing on foil.. mixing with water then sucking up.
.......short cuts make me think like 'meh i microwaved my pf jars instead of pc why did i fail crycrycry'
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: mushboy]
#23774998 - 10/26/16 10:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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i don't know how something like not using a liner = high failure rate (or any of the things i mentioned in my original post)
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: FriedEgg]
#23775006 - 10/26/16 10:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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no thats cool.. nothing in OP was a 'shortcut' its just the thread title is off putting. thats all i ment.
i wouldnt call not using a liner as a shortcut either. more like a preference.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: Mad Season]
#23775055 - 10/26/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: Haha I love not reading paragraphs of nub squabble and asking if they use agar 
@ell my name is from the 90s :P. Good music, awful cultivation.
Holy shit. Always knew you were Mr MB20, and thought you didn't know it.
But you do know in fact you're Mr Matchbox Twenty.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: bodhisatta]
#23775096 - 10/26/16 10:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: research new methods, successful ones, that have repeated success and have been proven by that success. and then don't deviate from that.
Talk about a paradox...
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how is following directions a paradox? or are you pointing out..
'try new methods..... and dont deviate' -then how do we get new methods?!
its one thing for a shroomerite with thousands of post and established teks/grows to try something new and different then just some guy trying blow everyones mind with waterfalls/candles or whatever the hell people come up with.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: mushboy]
#23775149 - 10/26/16 11:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The latter.
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-use ziplock pp5's with unmodded lids for grain masters -make big batches of LC so I don't have to wait for agar wedges to slowly colonize grain -no fanning, no misting -no casing -straight coir verm gyspum, no hp or ewc
I want to add to this list.
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irequirechocolate said:
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bodhisatta said: research new methods, successful ones, that have repeated success and have been proven by that success. and then don't deviate from that.
Talk about a paradox...
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: bodhisatta]
#23775260 - 10/26/16 11:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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fuuk prepping poo by hand..
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: liloldme]
#23775271 - 10/26/16 11:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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tump
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: liloldme]
#23775278 - 10/27/16 12:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Liloldme thats not shutcut. Stop being so dam coool. Any way only shot cut i know can work form personal experience is g2g in a dry still air box. Everything else like grain slurrys have more then 10% fail rate so not worth it.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: tump]
#23775301 - 10/27/16 12:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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tump said: Liloldme thats not shutcut. Stop being so dam coool. Any way only shot cut i know can work form personal experience is g2g in a dry still air box. Everything else like grain slurrys have more then 10% fail rate so not worth it.

looks like a pretty efficient way of prepping poo to me
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This whole thread sort of turned out to be a shit show... I know what you were trying to do OP... Unfortunately, you're dealing with a lot of crazies here.... hehe Hell-You brought Tump in... that's an aggressive cancer in and of itself....
To keep with OP:
I quit giving a fuck about how much I was growing and more about the quality of what I was growing... Then I got a lot more of what I was growing!
Good times.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: morty422] 1
#23775314 - 10/27/16 12:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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yup. a shit show it has become. all i wanted to do was share some ideas with each other on ways to be more efficient.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: FriedEgg]
#23775360 - 10/27/16 12:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nothing wrong with shortcuts if by shortcuts we mean discarding methods that dont really work anyway or doing things that work despite them being frowned upon. Mush cult on the Shroomery can be very conservative and rigid in its thinking sometimes and there seems to be nothing more despised than someone who swims against the tide.
Mushroom cultivation we can be reasonably certain just like in the old days is probably still following practices that dont really have much benefit and ignoring others that do.
A few years ago everyone was seriously hating on LC and these days its popular again.
Now LC is a pretty fucking amazing shortcut for me!
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: FriedEgg]
#23775470 - 10/27/16 01:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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FriedEgg said: and fanning [/LIST]
Don't Fan
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: mushboy]
#23775483 - 10/27/16 01:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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mushboy said: maybe your thread should be 'mush cult hacks' or something. because 'short cuts'+mush cult=high failure rate.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: wolf8312]
#23775523 - 10/27/16 02:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The word shortcut usually is in reference to saving time. Speed and efficiency are not always synonymous. Making clean cultures on agar to inoculate grains and then spawn to bulk is not as fast as using the PF tek to cultivate. In the end game though, the person who did the former will end up with a substantially larger yield.
example 1 bulk grow - 5# / 40 hours = .125# per hour
example 2 pf tek - 1# / 20 hours = .05# per hour
Example 1 spent more hours, but grow 250% more shrooms per hour than example 2. Now that's efficient use of time IMO.
Let's just scrap the word shortcut from this forum. OP, I believe the spirit of your post was really to ask people about things that make their grows more efficient? I would answer switching to agar. I don't have near as many failed projects after ditching the MS syringes. Less failure means more yield, and using less resources to get there. Come on guys and gals, get this post back on track. Maybe let's give the hen pecking a rest. This forum can get a little crazy sometimes.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: FriedEgg]
#23775579 - 10/27/16 04:05 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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cool thread.
Most shortcuts ive done have ended in failure but there is one.
I used to use a SAB (actually a glove box) for shooting up my PF jars. nOw i just do it open air, but close all the windows and wipe my needle with lots of iso alcohol. Works like a charm.
I think most shortcuts are a bad idea IMHO.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: WeavieWonder] 1
#23775629 - 10/27/16 05:01 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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WeavieWonder said: The word shortcut usually is in reference to saving time. Speed and efficiency are not always synonymous. Making clean cultures on agar to inoculate grains and then spawn to bulk is not as fast as using the PF tek to cultivate. In the end game though, the person who did the former will end up with a substantially larger yield.
True enough and for those whose livelihoods depend on the highest possible yields and maximum profits then I would agree you will save far more time/money by spending far more of it.
If we are talking cubensis though even a relatively piss poor bulk grow will almost certainly yield far more shrooms than your average shroomery user really needs...
Mushroom cultivation on the shroomery is for many people many different things. Some people its just a fun hobby, some an obsessive learning process, some people just want drugs, for some people its their whole lives, and some are doing it for a living.
In short it ranges from peeps who dont give nearly enough of a shit, to those who give way too much of a shit!
OP's post was a good one and theres no need to ban the expression 'short cut' from mush cult!
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LogicaL Chaos said:
I used to use a SAB (actually a glove box) for shooting up my PF jars. nOw i just do it open air, but close all the windows and wipe my needle with lots of iso alcohol.
I was always told to use a naked flame on the needle rather than using alcohol...
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: bodhisatta]
#23775656 - 10/27/16 05:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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cronicr said: Soaking spawn...g2g...agar...slants...shroomery..labeling have all helped me cut my times back.
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bodhisatta said: don't cut corners, if your mindset is wanting to cut corners. do everyone a favor buy a kit and don't post here. you're not a mushroom grower your a druggie who wants some cheap drugs. we're druggies that give a fuck about cultivation, we grow felonies, there's no room for people who don't give a fuck here. research new methods, successful ones, that have repeated success and have been proven by that success. and then don't deviate from that. act cool when you finally know what the fuck you're doing give advice from experience not conjecture
That part
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: wolf8312]
#23775660 - 10/27/16 05:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree fire beats iso achol anyday. But if it works for him on pf more power to him. That might be the easier shortcut on here.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: tump]
#23775694 - 10/27/16 06:05 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree fire beats iso achol anyday. But if it works for him on pf more power to him. That might be the easier shortcut on here.
Honestly I dont care if it works for him or doesent, just passing along what I was told myself really. I have no idea if using iso instead of fire will indeed lead to disaster because I have never done it!
Many of us us proceed in a certain way not because we have carried out tests and found that glove boxes give better results or that using naked flames for heating needles is better than using iso, but because there exists a consensus here on the shroomery that we blindly follow. Not really knowledge!
I actually think it would be a good idea to try different things out and see for yourself if something works or not before declaring it doesent but I am sure there are many on the shroomery who have done exactly that. My guess is fire is safer but also that 9 times out of ten there would be no problem.
Personally though I will always play the percentages and heat the needle etc just to be on the safe side!
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: Moabfighter]
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Mad Season said: Haha I love not reading paragraphs of nub squabble and asking if they use agar 
@ell my name is from the 90s :P. Good music, awful cultivation.
Holy shit. Always knew you were Mr MB20, and thought you didn't know it.
But you do know in fact you're Mr Matchbox Twenty.
Busted is probably one of my favorite songs ever.
Seen MB20 in concert when I was 10. My dad got into a fight, promptly was escorted out.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: Thedenthead] 1
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Matchbox 20 sucks. Yeah I said it.
Successful shortcut #1: WBS. You can prep it the same day you PC it. Successful shortcut #2: Coir. Bucket tek is so easy and fast, you can whip it up in 30 minutes. Successful shortcut #3: Pour your agar. You can prepare and pour 40 plates in under 2 hours (that's with PC time and cooling).
In fact, I don't even know if I'd consider these shortcuts. Everything is already pretty streamlined in this hobby…
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: dankington] 1
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dankington said: Matchbox 20 sucks. Yeah I said it.
damn people keep thinking my name's from that album..
No! If you look at my name in my profile it says Layne Staley. Lead singer of Alice in chains, and ofc the lead singer in the group mad season. Anyone who's an Alice in chains fan but hasn't heard of mad season... Wtf are you waiting for?
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Mad Season was an American rock supergroup formed in Seattle, Washington in 1994 by members of three popular Seattle-based bands: Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam and Screaming Trees.
Wikipedia.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: dankington]
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i should also note that taking shortcuts and being sucessful could just me getting really lucky from being lazy.
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The high horse is real.
Shortcuts as an experiment against your control is cool.
I don't give two fcks who's here to just grow some drugs and who's here to really learn. WHY? because it only effects the person who's here to learn how to grow some quick drugs.. they'll produce shit because no work was put in. I don't see how that effects me.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: Terpfreak]
#23777739 - 10/27/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Terpfreak said: The high horse is real.
Shortcuts as an experiment against your control is cool.
I don't give two fcks who's here to just grow some drugs and who's here to really learn. WHY? because it only effects the person who's here to learn how to grow some quick drugs.. they'll produce shit because no work was put in. I don't see how that effects me.
People who are just here to grow drugs and aren't interested in cultivation will often come in talking about stupid shit like selling, not contributing anything to the site, and generally just trolling and dicking around. They might drop in here and there to give bad advice, to tell noobs to wipe their needles with iso, be sure to colonize in the dark, or to use an incubator set to 86F.
I'm not into that. Most people who are here to help are not into that. I'm also not into the new folks who come in talking shit about this place being "rigid" or closed minded. Anyone who has had any kind of decent success doesn't say those things because they've come full circle and see how the site works. I honestly haven't seen a single person condone any of the ideas that are commonly rejected here, and then turn around and have consistent success. Those things don't go together. There are just as many ways to do things wrong as there are to do things right. Not everyone has to try everything to realize this. We just know you don't sterilize manure if you're using it as a bulk sub. We just know that spores to LC is a shitshow. We just fucking know you don't G2G in open air. One or two successes doing those things does not suddenly give swarms of noobs the right to come here talking like they just invented the wheel.
People who don't like how "rigid" we are here are the people who want to do things their own way, damn the consequences. Those people do not make good teachers because they are still in the stage of stubbornly making mistakes because they feel they know more about a subject that other people have been doing far longer than them.
Again, not into that. At all. Not my cup of tea. Not my bag. No officer, that's not mine, I've never seen it before.
Some of us have attitude problems, but that is so far removed from what matters, that it's a non-issue in the grand scheme. If anyone here is truly honestly interested in taking advice or fielding ideas from people who can't even accept being wrong, then I think mycotopia could use some more traffic probably.
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Re: list your successful shortcuts [Re: Inocuole]
#23777809 - 10/27/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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-keeping a slant of my culture so I won't have to start from spores again -using bags so I don't have to deal with dozens of jars that need to be clean and stack up like dirty dishes in my kitchen -having a bigger PC so I can do less cycles for the same amount of grain -never having done pf tek because... I want to fill my dehydrator
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I'm currently working on an ultimate short cut. Will post after completion. For now, the only short cut I use is after calling a hooker, whack off. Bam. Done. No wasting a hundred bucks. No showering. No driving. Easy peasy
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Re: Tell us how good you are at nigger rigging [Re: azur]
#23777952 - 10/27/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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azur said: I'm currently working on an ultimate short cut. Will post after completion. For now, the only short cut I use is after calling a hooker, whack off. Bam. Done. No wasting a hundred bucks. No showering. No driving. Easy peasy
Words to live by.
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Re: Tell us how good you are at nigger rigging [Re: Thedenthead]
#23777956 - 10/27/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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In mycology though, I take no short cuts, except the one I'm currently working on.
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Re: Tell us how good you are at nigger rigging [Re: azur]
#23777972 - 10/27/16 07:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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azur said: In mycology though, I take no short cuts, except the one I'm currently working on.
meh i've seen you take shortcuts before (good ones). like when you used saran wrap around your tubs instead of tape. i'd say that's a shortcut. 
but really. jesus fuck people. lets play semantics and compare potato and potato some more ok?
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Re: Tell us how good you are at kneegrow rigging [Re: azur] 1
#23777981 - 10/27/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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(azur whips out a 55 gallon pf cake)
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Re: Tell us how good you are at nigger rigging [Re: FriedEgg]
#23777983 - 10/27/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is it a short cut...or is it simply not being a ?
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Re: Tell us how good you are at kneegrow rigging [Re: dankington]
#23777984 - 10/27/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I do have a 4 foot tall pressure cooker
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Re: Tell us how good you are at kneegrow rigging [Re: azur]
#23777999 - 10/27/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The only shortcut I take is Azur's "No tape medium poly when spawned" tek
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Re: Tell us how good you are at kneegrow rigging [Re: liloldme]
#23778003 - 10/27/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh yea. Ha ha. Guess I do have a few short cuts up my sleeve
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Re: Tell us how good you are at kneegrow rigging [Re: azur]
#23778273 - 10/27/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pre-pouring agar in tiny tupper-wares saves a lot of time and effort. It eliminates the possibility of clumsily introducing contam vectors during the process of pouring plates, too. I do a mixture of pre-pours and actual petri dishes.
The petri's make me feel cool, like this guy

My last transfer before inoculating is always in a pre-pour, because I feel it's more reliable.
Using disposable sterile tools for transfers eliminates extra steps and variables. I found a product called "SPLINTER OUT" which is a pack of tiny little sharp pieces of sterile metal for transfers. Might seem trivial to you but I love them. Eliminate the torch.
You guys are probably going to shit on me, but when I inoculate with LC, I just shake my LC jar and poor a tiny plop directly into my grain jars in an SAB. When I'm done with that (get ready to cringe), I crack the lids, set all my jars upside down in the oven so the excess moisture drains out. They sit in there overnight. I'm not recommending it, but it works for me :/
Skip the grain jar dunk and grain slurry LC IMHO
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Re: Tell us how good you are at kneegrow rigging [Re: dankington]
#23778561 - 10/27/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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dankington said: (azur whips out a 55 gallon pf cake)

I gotta see this!
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Re: Tell us how good you are at kneegrow rigging [Re: Lt.Berkenstine]
#23778581 - 10/27/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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nice... i pre pour my agar plates too. but :cringe: @ your oven thing
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Re: Tell us how good you are at kneegrow rigging [Re: FriedEgg]
#23778584 - 10/27/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fuck I cut corners allover the place. The only thinges I don't half ass are clean inoculant, PC cycles, moisture content and pasturisation temperatures. IF you get that right the other stuff doesn't really matter.
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Re: Tell us how good you are at nigger rigging [Re: dankington] 1
#23778641 - 10/27/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dankington, you mother fucker. The only reason I posted here was to change the subject to a more fitting one. And you changed it!!!
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Re: Tell us how good you are at nigger rigging [Re: azur]
#23778649 - 10/27/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kneegrow.
Fucking love it.
i used to tell my mom "mom, I'm brown. Papers at school ask if I'm white, black, Hispanic, I'm none of those. I'm brown"
Both folks are from Florida,so I'm naturally tan.
Not sure what this has to do with kneegrows but whatever.
Also, shortcuts are no good. Shortcuts just get me trich mushrooms. Use agar and forget the shortcuts.
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Re: Tell us how good you are at kneegrow rigging [Re: Moabfighter]
#23778740 - 10/27/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Inocuole said:
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Terpfreak said: The high horse is real.
Shortcuts as an experiment against your control is cool.
I don't give two fcks who's here to just grow some drugs and who's here to really learn. WHY? because it only effects the person who's here to learn how to grow some quick drugs.. they'll produce shit because no work was put in. I don't see how that effects me.
People who are just here to grow drugs and aren't interested in cultivation will often come in talking about stupid shit like selling, not contributing anything to the site, and generally just trolling and dicking around. They might drop in here and there to give bad advice, to tell noobs to wipe their needles with iso, be sure to colonize in the dark, or to use an incubator set to 86F.
I'm not into that. Most people who are here to help are not into that. I'm also not into the new folks who come in talking shit about this place being "rigid" or closed minded. Anyone who has had any kind of decent success doesn't say those things because they've come full circle and see how the site works. I honestly haven't seen a single person condone any of the ideas that are commonly rejected here, and then turn around and have consistent success. Those things don't go together. There are just as many ways to do things wrong as there are to do things right. Not everyone has to try everything to realize this. We just know you don't sterilize manure if you're using it as a bulk sub. We just know that spores to LC is a shitshow. We just fucking know you don't G2G in open air. One or two successes doing those things does not suddenly give swarms of noobs the right to come here talking like they just invented the wheel.
People who don't like how "rigid" we are here are the people who want to do things their own way, damn the consequences. Those people do not make good teachers because they are still in the stage of stubbornly making mistakes because they feel they know more about a subject that other people have been doing far longer than them.
Again, not into that. At all. Not my cup of tea. Not my bag. No officer, that's not mine, I've never seen it before.
Some of us have attitude problems, but that is so far removed from what matters, that it's a non-issue in the grand scheme. If anyone here is truly honestly interested in taking advice or fielding ideas from people who can't even accept being wrong, then I think mycotopia could use some more traffic probably.
That hall of shame you have, is it for people who upset you? Wow over 23 thousand posts!
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Re: Tell us how good you are at kneegrow rigging [Re: wolf8312]
#23778753 - 10/27/16 10:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jammin avatar dude. Love it.
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Re: Tell us how good you are at kneegrow rigging [Re: azur]
#23778780 - 10/27/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks dude! Seems like clowns and pennywise are coming back into fashion these days!
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Re: Tell us how good you are at kneegrow rigging [Re: wolf8312]
#23778789 - 10/27/16 11:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yea. I read It in 7th grade. Sucked if I had to shower alone after wrestling practice while I was reading that book.
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Re: Tell us how good you are at kneegrow rigging [Re: wolf8312]
#23780992 - 10/28/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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wolf8312 said: That hall of shame you have, is it for people who upset you? Wow over 23 thousand posts!

No.
I wouldn't get very far in life if I gave people that power over me. It's people who can't take the heat, so they've permanently removed themselves from the kitchen.
I've talked a lot of mushrooms in the last 5 years.
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Re: Tell us how good you are at kneegrow rigging [Re: Inocuole]
#23781739 - 10/29/16 02:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have to do all my mushroom talk here as no one seems to care IRL aha
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Re: Tell us how good you are at kneegrow rigging [Re: liloldme]
#23781762 - 10/29/16 03:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Finesse is key to kneegrowing. UTSF'n as much as you can while taking notes as much as you can. When I take notes of teks I remember them almost good enough to not have to refer to my notes. Therefore avoiding time and money consuming mistakes.
Not having this wonderful mushroom talk in life would be not good for honing and improving the ways people grow mushrooms because knowledge is power. Therefore UTSF'n FTW
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