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Captain67
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5 litre bulk tray WBR/coir/? Opinions appreciated
#23774196 - 10/26/16 06:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok so here's the deal. I've got 4 half pint cakes of whole brown rice cakes/spawn, equating to 750ml-1L. I fruited them for 1 flush already and had good results. The genes are strong and I'd like to move them to something bigger. I have about 5 litres coir hydrated. This will give me a 1:5-1:7 spawn ratio.
It's my understanding that coir is not very nutritious, and mostly there to hold moisture and fill space. I'd like to beef up the nutrients a bit without making it too prone to contamination. The WBR had a bit of gypsum added. It was "cooked" in very diluted coffee.
I want to use the existing cakes as spawn because they have some good genes, but they aren't exactly sterile so I don't want to end up with a tub of trich.
I thought of maybe cooking the coir in quart jars, and crumbling the cakes into 4 of them, partially colonizing while watching for contam and then putting them all together in the tray.
Essentially, I know it's a high contam risk and I want to add some nutes without dooming the whole thing.
I have gypsum, coffee grounds, whole grain wheat flour, lots of rice, malt extract, and a shitload of plant material I can dry out and pasteurize.
Ultimately, is there something I can make this work with without increasing the risk too much, or am I better off spawning to pure coir?
Since I started with WBR and not PF cakes it already has more nutrition in the first place but I'm concerned it may not be enough and give some weak yields. I'm trying to figure out a way to turn this into a tray without killing it all.
Bottom line: can I add something I have to increase the chance of success, or just go straight for a rez effect and go with only coir? Edit: another idea was spawning some of it to a couple quarts of rice and going from there to increase nutes and also spawn ratio before moving to coir Thank you for any input.
-------------------- Synthetics betrayed me, and warped my mind. Nature mended it.
Edited by Captain67 (10/26/16 06:30 PM)
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Captain67
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Re: 5 litre bulk tray WBR/coir/? Opinions appreciated [Re: Captain67]
#23778029 - 10/27/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nothing? Damn
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Re: 5 litre bulk tray WBR/coir/? Opinions appreciated [Re: Captain67]
#23778038 - 10/27/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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you already fruited a flush. Keep fruiting them as cakes for your max. yield. By using those cakes as spawn, you'll just weaken the myc. network and make your forthcoming yields suffer. If you wanna try cakes for spawn (which I say fruit cakes as cakes, but whatever), use fresh cakes no consolidation time.
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Captain67
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Re: 5 litre bulk tray WBR/coir/? Opinions appreciated [Re: dankington]
#23778090 - 10/27/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok thanks for the input. I started some clones on agar so maybe I'll just wait for those? I had also made some syringes but I'm not too confident in them. Only managed to get germination on one plate and it doesn't seem to be doing well.
Also I suspect I made my agar too nutritious and that may be the reason for my slow clone growth. Would transferring the existing mycelium to new, less nute plates be worth the effort?
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Edited by Captain67 (10/27/16 07:51 PM)
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Re: 5 litre bulk tray WBR/coir/? Opinions appreciated [Re: Captain67]
#23778112 - 10/27/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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then make sure your clones are clean, then use a clean wedge to make LI/LC and/or inoculate a grain master. Keep it goin'!
Look up master slants, and put your best producers on ones ASAP.
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Captain67
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Re: 5 litre bulk tray WBR/coir/? Opinions appreciated [Re: dankington]
#23778133 - 10/27/16 07:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edited my previous post but you'd already replied. Other than the slow growth they seem to be pretty clean. I've already disposed of the two that grew mold, and transferred another.
-------------------- Synthetics betrayed me, and warped my mind. Nature mended it.
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