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contaminated???
    #23773860 - 10/26/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

i'm not sure if this is just bruising or contamination on my rye berries. mycelium was nice and healthy white, then i very lightly shook the bag to mix it. noticed this with the new growth. does no appear to be getting any larger. seems like a blueish greyish color.





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Re: contaminated??? [Re: snappy0311]
    #23774523 - 10/26/16 07:56 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Your good, mycelium bruises blue like shrooms when you touch them


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Re: contaminated??? [Re: Trippyhippy15414]
    #23774534 - 10/26/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

no your not good and it doesn't turn blue when touched unless it was dryied out or bacterial/contaminated.


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Re: contaminated??? [Re: tombosley8]
    #23775373 - 10/27/16 12:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm guessing you inoculated with a spore syringe?


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Re: contaminated??? [Re: thebug76]
    #23775667 - 10/27/16 05:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Looks like bruising to me.

Should be fine.


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Re: contaminated??? [Re: tombosley8]
    #23775677 - 10/27/16 05:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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no your not good and it doesn't turn blue when touched unless it was dryied out or bacterial/contaminated.




False information. Mycelium can also bruise blue after rough handling / shaking / cutting ...

Hard to tell from the pictures but it looks like bruising to me, too.


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Re: contaminated??? [Re: enlightenment]
    #23775684 - 10/27/16 05:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid:

Looks like bruising. I have some G2G master jars here. I shaked them hard before I did G2G and some of the colonized rye berries start bruising too.


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Re: contaminated??? [Re: snappy0311]
    #23775748 - 10/27/16 06:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

thank you all for the input. this is my first time doing anything besides pftek so i'm not used to the shaking or any resulting bruising.

do wish the pictures where a bit better but i work with what i have. happy to hear that it just appears to be bruising.


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Re: contaminated??? [Re: shrumzen]
    #23775823 - 10/27/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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tombosley8 said:
no your not good and it doesn't turn blue when touched unless it was dryied out or bacterial/contaminated.




False information. Mycelium can also bruise blue after rough handling / shaking / cutting ...

Hard to tell from the pictures but it looks like bruising to me, too.



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Looks like bruising. I have some G2G master jars here. I shaked them hard before I did G2G and some of the colonized rye berries start bruising too.



Rough handling has never bruised mycelium for me... Shaking has never bruised shit for me unless there's bacteria in it... And cutting also has never bruised unless there's bacteria or it was dry af.... Where's the proof? I guarantee if you got bruising from shaking, you had bacteria.

It's not hard at all to tell from the pic that shit is bruising, as well as there's no glistening showing it's hydrated properly, and the thick nasty growths showing it's bacterial..

Everything tom said was actually right on the money. Mycelium != Mushrooms when it comes to bruising.


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Re: contaminated??? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23775874 - 10/27/16 08:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

After cutting healthy colonized agar with an often used/flamed scalpel tip i rip off some mycel. It bruises. I make pictures next time. After inoculating with healthy agar wedges and hard shaking the agar wedges turn blue on some spots. These jars/plates did not show later contamination.


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Re: contaminated??? [Re: enlightenment]
    #23775883 - 10/27/16 08:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yes I've seen it bruise on agar too, but it's like never hydrated on agar like it is in a tub covered in condensation. I've poked and prodded tubs and anything I ensure is covered in moisture, and it never bruises. If it isn't glistening with moisture, it bruises, and I've never seen an agar plate covered in glistening moisture, have you?

Hell I dropped this one, and misted way too much up close and personal and it didn't bruise at all.



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Re: contaminated??? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23775927 - 10/27/16 08:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I can just write what my experience showed me... I definitely had bruising in jars that produced nice and strong flushes.

I know some people hate it to quote him, but:

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Mycelium of active species often turns blue after shaking.
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That's still no proof but I think there are more cultivators here that have seen bruising inside jars without contaminations.

I wrote it to a piece of paper as a reminder to make photos next time.



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Re: contaminated??? [Re: enlightenment]
    #23775939 - 10/27/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

My clean spawn often bruises when broken apart.
OP, that is bruising AND your shit is loaded with bacteria


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Re: contaminated??? [Re: azur]
    #23775947 - 10/27/16 08:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I've never had clean spawn bruise when shaken :shrug: I'd still love to see proof from anybody, because I've been saying the same shit asking for proof for a long time now, and nobody has provided me with it yet. Not trying to sound pompous or anything. I'm just curious in the interest of the science of cubensis.

And yeah OPs jar is bacterial af.


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Re: contaminated??? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23775995 - 10/27/16 09:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Well pictures hide a lot. The only way I'd be able to show you true proof is if you came down here, inspected a jar or bag, shook it up, then watched.


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