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    #23770760 - 10/25/16 05:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Did some apple picking with my gf yesterday and we found these on our trip.  First time hunting and looking for a little help from someone more experienced.

These first two we think may be Psilocybe baeocystis. They were found in some moss on the ground under the trees in the tall, moist grass; lots of apples and leaves all over the ground.



These big guys I found growing out of one of the tree trunks. I'm thinking these are oyster mushrooms?



This tiny cluster was found in the grass near the trees. We're thinking maybe Gymnopilus luteus?



And lastly this tiny little cluster is too tiny for me to tell. Looks like it could be similar to those first two, but honestly I have no idea. 



I'm not noticing any particularly strong odors off any of these and can't think of any other details that stick out to me to include here. We have not attempted to get any spore stamps. Do these look safe to eat?

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Re: Please help ID these Maine finds [Re: mainemagic]
    #23770771 - 10/25/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

1) Stropharia aeruginosa group.  Blue but not staining blue where damaged, right?

2) Pleurotus ostreats

3) Kind of hard to say, but one possibility is Pleurotus dryinus.    Is that a veil that I see?

4) Laccaria laccata group

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Re: Please help ID these Maine finds [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #23770788 - 10/25/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for your input. The first group's stems are bluish from bruising, but not staining. And yes, the third group of cluster shrooms are veiled.

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Re: Please help ID these Maine finds [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #23770814 - 10/25/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks again. Looks like I got one right on the oysters. I am curious what makes you say the first strain is Pleurotus dryinus. I'm having a hard time finding anything similar on a google image search. There is no bluing whatsoever on the cap, while only the stem has a bluish gray hue to it. Most of the images I'm finding show very pronounced blues on the cap.

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Re: Please help ID these Maine finds [Re: mainemagic]
    #23770823 - 10/25/16 05:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The first group's stems are bluish from bruising, but not staining.




This is a self-inconsistent statement. bruise and stain have the same meaning in this sense.


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Re: Please help ID these Maine finds [Re: canid]
    #23770874 - 10/25/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you for correcting me on the preferred nomenclature. I read "Blue but not staining blue where damaged, right?" to mean that the bluish hue from bruising was not rubbing off and "staining" say, the paper towel, for example.

The stems have barely a faint bluish/gray hue to them. The caps are a light brown with no bluing at all. That's why it's hard to imagine these as Stropharia aeruginosa. But again, I am very new to this and am basing this mostly off my pictures compared to ones I can find on the internet.

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Re: Please help ID these Maine finds [Re: mainemagic]
    #23770900 - 10/25/16 06:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Stropharia aeruginosa group starts out very blue and fades to tan as it matures.  It never gets more blue where damaged.

Psilocybe starts out white/caramel color, and turns blue as the cells break and expose psilocin to the air. 


The cap on the blue Stropharia's is always very viscid, while Psilocybe doesn't have a viscid cap.  Wet your finger and rub the cap and see if it feels slimy.

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Re: Please help ID these Maine finds [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #23770945 - 10/25/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't say the cap is very viscid. It feels smooth, but not slimy. Any chance this is a psilocybe? They look a lot closer to the pictures on this forum of the psilocybe baeocystis than of the stropharia aeruginosa pictures I get with a google search. As you can tell from the pictures, not very blue at all. It's really only the stem that has a faint silvery bluish tint.

Again, I appreciate you taking the time to comment, so thank you for this.

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Re: Please help ID these Maine finds [Re: mainemagic]
    #23771100 - 10/25/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

:popcorn:they do look a lot like psilocybes but there should be a little bruising at least on the edge of the caps...I don't see any. Did you spore print them? Never mind, they appear to have already dropped their spores.


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Re: Please help ID these Maine finds [Re: mainemagic]
    #23771418 - 10/25/16 08:46 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Any chance this is a psilocybe?





Yes, there's some chance.  Please post more photos and save the dried collection.

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Re: Please help ID these Maine finds [Re: mainemagic]
    #23772043 - 10/26/16 12:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The first four photos definitely look active.

Reminds me of some old dried-up cyans i found one year. Heres some pics:





I highly recommend returning to that spot where u found the first pictured shrroms on an ideal weather day and try find some fresh ones.


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Re: Please help ID these Maine finds [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23772671 - 10/26/16 08:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for your response and for sharing those pictures with me. They do look very similar in my opinion. These I found were fresh on Monday and they're still not completely dried out yet. Here some more pictures of the first two. I tried taking some with and without the flash in some natural light by the window.



Upon further inspection today, you can see some bluing on the stem near the cap from handling. The larger one is still completely tan on the cap, but the small one looks to have a very slight bluish bruise on the top near the middle.

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Re: Please help ID these Maine finds [Re: mainemagic]
    #23772699 - 10/26/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I would be very surprised if these were not psilocybes. The bluing in the cap in the last pic makes me wonder. This is interesting.

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Re: Please help ID these Maine finds [Re: BoomBoom]
    #23772708 - 10/26/16 09:10 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, the bluing on the cap is very faint so I increased the saturation in that last photo to show it a little better. You can see the same spot in a few of the other pics, though. Think we might give these a try soon. You don't think we'll die, do you?

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Re: Please help ID these Maine finds [Re: mainemagic]
    #23772725 - 10/26/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Haha no. Im definitely not suggesting these are absolutely magic and go ahead and eat them. You need only take advice like that from a Trusted Identifier. Please wait and see what comes of this before making a decision to take these. I do think they could quite possibly be psilocybes but you must wait for a TI.

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Re: Please help ID these Maine finds [Re: BoomBoom]
    #23772742 - 10/26/16 09:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I appreciate the advice. Guess I'll wait and try to gather some more input first. I'm very happy with the amount of response here already, though. This seems like a very active community. Thanks!

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Re: Please help ID these Maine finds [Re: mainemagic]
    #23772796 - 10/26/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

People of the Shroomery are usually pretty good about getting back to you in a timely fashion. Than you for not just eating them without getting more info. I have at least five or six PM's where people have messaged me asking if they're going to die because they ate mushrooms before they were properly identified.

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Re: Please help ID these Maine finds [Re: BoomBoom]
    #23772807 - 10/26/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Haha yeah, no sweat. I'm anxious, but not stupid. Was hoping for a positive ID so I could eat them fresh as opposed to dried out, but it wasn't a huge find anyway, just the two. We might go back and check out that area again soon. Also looking into some pf tek to grow my own. It looks relatively easy.

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Re: Please help ID these Maine finds [Re: mainemagic]
    #23772848 - 10/26/16 10:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Grow your own. Yes. Definitely do that. Easy and cheap and very rewarding!

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Re: Please help ID these Maine finds [Re: BoomBoom]
    #23773954 - 10/26/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

After looking at the new pics Alonso and I am sure that they are Stropharia.

I heard that this group is edible.

Definitely not active though.

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