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just_curious
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No more standard "pouring" for GLC?
#23772562 - 10/26/16 08:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was looking at my jar for making sun tea and got a brilliant idea...I just have to put it to the test. The idea behind it, prep grains and fill up the jar and PC the entire thing with foil over the lid and spout. Inoculate it either by plates of agar or g2g using the entire quart of colonized grains. Let the tea jar colonize, wait the week long consolidation period, fill up with water, and then simply set your quart jars underneath and open the spout to inoculate with the GLC.
Side note: foil would remain over the spout until ready to use. The jar is glass and the lid is metal so that isn't a cause for concern. What worries me is the plastic spout and seal holding up in the PC.
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Re: No more standard "pouring" for GLC? [Re: just_curious]
#23772595 - 10/26/16 08:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The idea is not bad but i think there would come out too much water. You only need 1-2 cc GLC/LC per jar. Another problem is the spout could get contaminated and you can not flame it between each jar.
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Re: No more standard "pouring" for GLC? [Re: enlightenment]
#23772643 - 10/26/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well the cool thing about this is you don't have to open the spout all the way. Any slight lifting would created droplets. I don't think contamination would be an issue either. When I make LI, I keep the jar open the entire time so I can swirl and dump with easy. I just keep all my receiving jar's lids loose. I think if you keep the foil on over the spout until you are ready to use, it shouldn't be an issue.
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Re: No more standard "pouring" for GLC? [Re: just_curious]
#23772672 - 10/26/16 08:54 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I use injection ports on all of my jars to reduce the contamination risk. With a big 60cc syringe you can poke through the port and suck out enough GLC for 30 quart jars. If these quart jars also have injection ports you do not need to open one jar.
I don't want to destroy your idea. I just don't see an additional value of your method. But you can give it a try and report how it worked for you.
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Re: No more standard "pouring" for GLC? [Re: enlightenment]
#23772732 - 10/26/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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That thing won't hold up in a pressure cooker anyway
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Re: No more standard "pouring" for GLC? [Re: enlightenment]
#23772738 - 10/26/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The problem is, this is my wife's tea jar. She told me I can't use this one because she can't get more for the price she paid until summer. I guess it was only $4 lol. I get what your saying though. Even if you used this to make a Big ass jar of LI or LC. No more fumbling with multiple lids, no swirling the jar because its draining from the bottom instead of pouring from the top, etc. I've even heard mixed things about SHIPs having another possible contamination vector. I worked with them once just because I don't use syringes so I can't personally speak. But, if our sterile tek is good, then we shouldn't have to worry about possible vectors, right? Man, we would drive ourselves crazy if we constantly though about the what if's lol.
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Re: No more standard "pouring" for GLC? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23772744 - 10/26/16 09:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
bodhisatta said: That thing won't hold up in a pressure cooker anyway
^^This is the only thing I'm actually worried about. But, I think it would be too easy to switch out the spout with a copper, brass, or steel one, and use seals and gaskets that are made for high heat. But at the same time, I don't think it would be the spout, but rather the seal. This plastic is a lot more heavy duty than my plastic jar lids lol
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Re: No more standard "pouring" for GLC? [Re: just_curious]
#23772753 - 10/26/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sounds like a great way to make something simple more complicated and contaminate prone.
GLC is already garbage.
What's wrong with g2g if you can't do that then don't fuck with GLC lol
Also "this plastic" can be three times thicker than your lids but if it's not autoclavable plastic it just melts
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Re: No more standard "pouring" for GLC? [Re: bodhisatta]
#23772767 - 10/26/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Honestly, I have never done GLC, only LC and LI which I think this could work for also. Especially with munchauzins (sp?) blenderless LI. I do use G2G and cloning and that's all I use. I know it sounds stupid posting this without ever messing with it. But when I was looking at it I was like "hmmm, I wonder". I do think there is a place in it if the jar would hold up. Maybe it was a dumb idea, but it worked in my mind. You could whip up big batch of LC in this, make it your master, store it in the fridge, and when you need some LC for a grow, you pour into a more portable jar. But then again, I could be over thinking it. Maybe more useful when working on an extremely large scale project?? I do appreciate the input though. Sometimes I need to be brought back down to earth lol
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Re: No more standard "pouring" for GLC? [Re: just_curious]
#23772787 - 10/26/16 09:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why not just pour outta regular jar? I have made LC in reg mouth pint jars and just pourer it like a G2G just fine.
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Re: No more standard "pouring" for GLC? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23772800 - 10/26/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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And you don't have an issue with the mycelium settling towards the bottom and having to swirl the jar?
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Re: No more standard "pouring" for GLC? [Re: just_curious]
#23772804 - 10/26/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Syringe filter lid, so you can shake.
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Re: No more standard "pouring" for GLC? [Re: just_curious]
#23772932 - 10/26/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I always wanted to do a giant LC jar. so I had the sun tea jar idea as well. I pulled out the plastic spout and used RTV to make an injection port in it's place. The problem was that the jar was A. a little too big for my PC,so I had to lean it over and B. the jar would take on water too easily inside the PC. (so the theory is sound, I just need a bigger PC)
I looked, but they don't make a half gallon sun tea jar. 
You can buy a drill bit for glass for $5-$10, and drill your own holes.
I wanted a gallon jar of LC hooked up to one of those high volume, automatic veterinarian syringe guns...
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