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HOVA
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FML... What did I do wrong here? (PICS)
#23772559 - 10/26/16 08:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So I watched the Lets Grow Mushrooms "Preparing Grain" video and followed the steps exactly... Soaked my Rye Berries in two different Pots, both of them were filled with Tap Water that was so Hot that when I tried to scoop something out of one my hand was hurting when I took it out from the heat.. So when Rodger Rabbit says "Scolding Hot" I believe I was pretty close to there..
One for the pots soaked for about 18 Hours and the other soaked for about 8.. I then Boiled them both for 10 minutes and then went to strain... and this what happened..
18 Hour Soak Batch

8 Hour Soak Batch

See to the right and left of the 8 hour batch how some of the Berries have split? Like straight in half.. Almost look mushy..
Then the 18 hour batch.. It looks as if they have all already sprouted..
Now I did use these which I had posted on here to make sure it was the same thing as Rye Berries the other day..

I read the back and it said no where that they had been pre-soaked.. It did say that they had been Milled to Perfection at the low heat of 80-100 degrees I believe or something along those lines but thats it nothing about soaking or anything else..
So can someone tell me what I did wrong here?
Because unless for some miracle reason you guys tell me that these are still usable I am going to have to drive an hour and a half to the closest place that actually sells organic rye berries and not these "Sprouted Rye" things that cost me $4.99 a bag and just ruined all 8...
FML I am pissed off right now...
If you guys could just please let me know what I can do to fix this from happening this next time so I dont do it again once I have returned from this 3+ hour journey to the grain farm today..
As always thanks and I look forward to hearing how I fucked up.. haha
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Re: FML... What did I do wrong here? (PICS) [Re: HOVA]
#23772574 - 10/26/16 08:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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As long as neither batches are sticky you will be fine to use them.
Soak with cold or room temp water in the future.
The only difference I see from your pics is that the 8hr soak seems to have popped a few grains, meaning you boiled it too hard or too long. Typically I will slowly bring my rye to a boil and move it from heat & strain as soon as it reaches 200 degrees or begins boiling.
The goal of heating the rye in the first place is to get it hot so when you dry it the steam will carry away all of the excess moisture on the outside of the grains, since what we want is moisture only inside the grains. That and heat helps pack in the maximum amount of moisture the grain can hold inside the hull.
Also the 18hr grain hasn't sprouted that's just paranoia from your brand. Breathe man you're going to make it!!
Edited by PirateSwazey (10/26/16 08:31 AM)
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thebug76
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Re: FML... What did I do wrong here? (PICS) [Re: PirateSwazey]
#23772602 - 10/26/16 08:30 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I boil my water in a seperate pot, then pour it into the pot with my grains then cover with a lid. Not boiling the grains themselves greatly reduces the number 9f aplit grains.
Also, whole oats are much cheaper
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Re: FML... What did I do wrong here? (PICS) [Re: thebug76]
#23772917 - 10/26/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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i don't remember RR saying to soak the rye berries in scalding hot water...anyway, the correct procedure that is used by most is to rinse out the grains a few times (pour all the rye in a pot, fill with water, empty into colander, repeat), then soak for 12-24 hrs in a pot full of cold tap water before boiling. I usually dump the water out one last time right before boiling for 10 minutes
and most importantly, make sure the grains are properly moist (not too wet) before loading jars (since you're new to this, you'll want to do the toilet paper test method suggested by RR in the video)
good luck!
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HOVA
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Re: FML... What did I do wrong here? (PICS) [Re: crackbaby]
#23772980 - 10/26/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Awesome! @Pirate Swazey Thanks!
I am glad to hear this $40 round of "Sprouted Rye" didn't go to waste unlike the money I had spent on it just from being lazy, but Thank You guys for all the immidiate feedback!
I will most definatley be giving one of your alls method a try this next time and its crazy that you said that about the Boil because thats exactly what had happened and it must of not been on there for an extra minute or two but when I had finally realized it was boiling it was quite a harsh boil inside my pot.. So it makes sense.. Thanks!
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crackbaby said: i don't remember RR saying to soak the rye berries in scalding hot water...anyway, the correct procedure that is used by most is to rinse out the grains a few times (pour all the rye in a pot, fill with water, empty into colander, repeat), then soak for 12-24 hrs in a pot full of cold tap water before boiling. I usually dump the water out one last time right before boiling for 10 minutes
and most importantly, make sure the grains are properly moist (not too wet) before loading jars (since you're new to this, you'll want to do the toilet paper test method suggested by RR in the video)
good luck!

and yeah that was the method I followed.. the only part I think I had messed up on was the part where I couldn't hear that it was boiling and when I did it must of been going for a couple minutes to long.. But def will make sure I do the toilet paper test and I appreciate the feedback! Thanks!
And for whoever recommended using Oats its funny you say that because I had actually bought Oats last night for that very purpose.. I just wasnt entirely to sure which kind of Oats were best to use.. The ones I got are called "Extra Thick Rolled Oats" and look like this

When I was trying to find which kind to buy there was a thread in which a member had said they had used Crimped Oats and I tried to find those last night but they were there.. These were the only ones they had that closest resembled something along the lines as Rye Berries... The rest were all chopped pretty finely and just didn't look like they'd work..
What type of Oats are you supposed to use if not these?
and Thanks again everyone for all the feed back! I really appreciate it!
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thebug76
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Re: FML... What did I do wrong here? (PICS) [Re: HOVA]
#23773683 - 10/26/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just make sure it's whole oats with the shell intact. Other than that, it doesn't matter. The farm store near me has 50lb bags for like $16.
Those look fine
Edited by thebug76 (10/26/16 03:33 PM)
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Re: FML... What did I do wrong here? (PICS) [Re: thebug76]
#23773708 - 10/26/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't know if I would trust those rolled oats; usually rolled oats are more like oatmeal.
Stores that sell feed for livestock are where you want to look for them. Here's a good Tek for them: Inocuole's Impossibly Simple Whole Oat Prep
Note that he suggests racehorse oats specifically as they have a lot less junk in them, such as weevils and bacteria.
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Re: FML... What did I do wrong here? (PICS) [Re: r.lutece]
#23774149 - 10/26/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: FML... What did I do wrong here? (PICS) [Re: tombosley8]
#23774163 - 10/26/16 06:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You should indeed start your soak with scolding water..it prevents grains from spouting.not a huge deal I rarely ever see them spout up anyway
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Re: FML... What did I do wrong here? (PICS) [Re: r.lutece]
#23774370 - 10/26/16 07:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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r.lutece said: Note that he suggests racehorse oats specifically as they have a lot less junk in them, such as weevils and bacteria.
Too god damn right... I had a good run on producers pride oats for a while but eventually they left a bad taste from the fucking lugging huge bags of grain to the dumpster.
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