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phesoj
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Wild Outdoor Azurescens Cultivation *DELETED*
#23772404 - 10/26/16 06:10 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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amidogen
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Re: Wild Outdoor Azurescens Cultivation [Re: phesoj]
#23772517 - 10/26/16 07:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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phesoj
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Re: Wild Outdoor Azurescens Cultivation [Re: amidogen]
#23772538 - 10/26/16 08:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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amidogen said: You mean introducing a non-native species to an ecosystem? Yeah, that never has unintended consequences.
If you're really set on playing god and feel like you've truly explored, analyzed, and understood all the repurcussions of introducing a non-native fungus that possibly has no predators in your ecosystem (I don't know much about the fungal fauna of the UK) then look up a member here, liloldme. Dude does some outstanding outdoor wood lover grows.
Somewhat appropriate pithy response. I'd hazard a guess and say rodents and slugs are as happy to eat azure spawn & caps as they are cyans. There are other, rarer fungi inhabiting some of these areas so that is a concern that I hadn't considered until now.
I'm not set on this plan, it's something I am deliberating.
Thanks for the pointer, I will most definitely have a look.
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Re: Wild Outdoor Azurescens Cultivation [Re: phesoj]
#23772564 - 10/26/16 08:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Id listen to the guy above. I don't feel like introducing a non native species to your area is a good thing to do.
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Re: Wild Outdoor Azurescens Cultivation [Re: amidogen]
#23772566 - 10/26/16 08:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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amidogen said: You mean introducing a non-native species to an ecosystem? Yeah, that never has unintended consequences.
If you're really set on playing god and feel like you've truly explored, analyzed, and understood all the repurcussions of introducing a non-native fungus that possibly has no predators in your ecosystem (I don't know much about the fungal fauna of the UK) then look up a member here, liloldme. Dude does some outstanding outdoor wood lover grows.
Many mushrooms are now beyond their native range because of people. Many members on here have spread spores and slurries themselves.
I dont really think it would be much of an issue.
On a side note maybe the wildlife will learn to get ripped eating the mushies. Just like many animals that get drunk and so on
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Re: Wild Outdoor Azurescens Cultivation [Re: phesoj]
#23772582 - 10/26/16 08:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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phesoj
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Re: Wild Outdoor Azurescens Cultivation [Re: amidogen]
#23772620 - 10/26/16 08:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can one of the mods move this to the outdoor cultivation subforum please ?
Considering the consequences is of huge importance to me, otherwise I wouldn't have invited the discussion in the first place. We have problems with invasive species here too.
Also still curious on the technical details - May just try and create a sandy, grassy microclimate instead of going full wild. Less of a moral responsibility.
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enlightenment
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Re: Wild Outdoor Azurescens Cultivation [Re: phesoj]
#23772648 - 10/26/16 08:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know that Psi. Cyanescens was already found in UK. Maybe it was caused by outdoor beds or just pure nature. I don't know if Psi. Azurescens was found in UK but this species needs similar conditions.
I like the input from amidogen about the ecosystem. Someone imported an American crayfish species to Germany. This species has almost no natural enemies here. Some rivers are full of them now... they had massive negative impact in the German ecosystem.
That was just an example what could happen if humans play 'god' without thinking about consequences.
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Re: Wild Outdoor Azurescens Cultivation [Re: phesoj]
#23773147 - 10/26/16 12:26 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I read a story about Peele knocking up a whole bunch of straw bales with Tamanensis before a big hurricane came in, with the idea of spreading the spawn and spores. So there is some precedent for the idea.
Does a SuperSoaker full of LC actually work?? You could just be like Johnny Psiloseed....traveling the land, inoculating wood piles and garden mulch.
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Re: Wild Outdoor Azurescens Cultivation [Re: Spore Ninja]
#23773154 - 10/26/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Spore Ninja said: Does a SuperSoaker full of LC actually work?? You could just be like Johnny Psiloseed....traveling the land, inoculating wood piles and garden mulch. 
It works to some degree. I tried this with Boletus LC with limited but noticeable success.
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Re: Wild Outdoor Azurescens Cultivation [Re: amidogen]
#23773348 - 10/26/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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amidogen said: You mean introducing a non-native species to an ecosystem? Yeah, that never has unintended consequences.
If you're really set on playing god and feel like you've truly explored, analyzed, and understood all the repurcussions of introducing a non-native fungus that possibly has no predators in your ecosystem (I don't know much about the fungal fauna of the UK) then look up a member here, liloldme. Dude does some outstanding outdoor wood lover grows.
This is complete crap.
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Re: Wild Outdoor Azurescens Cultivation [Re: cronicr]
#23773380 - 10/26/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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cronicr said:
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amidogen said: You mean introducing a non-native species to an ecosystem? Yeah, that never has unintended consequences.
If you're really set on playing god and feel like you've truly explored, analyzed, and understood all the repurcussions of introducing a non-native fungus that possibly has no predators in your ecosystem (I don't know much about the fungal fauna of the UK) then look up a member here, liloldme. Dude does some outstanding outdoor wood lover grows.
This is complete crap.

With the exception that liloldme does do some nice work
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Re: Wild Outdoor Azurescens Cultivation [Re: amidogen]
#23773385 - 10/26/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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amidogen said: I'm sure people will pop up saying I'm overreacting and it's just fine.
haha, its not like he's bringing over hundreds of trees into southern florida or snakehead fish in maryland.
a few shrooms isnt going to impact the ecosystem THAT much.
not hating but your rant sounded like dr grant giving advice on the moral implications of jurassic park.
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Re: Wild Outdoor Azurescens Cultivation [Re: mushboy]
#23773436 - 10/26/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It won't effect it at all...when you get on and off a plabe you are covered in foreign fucking spores
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amidogen
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Re: Wild Outdoor Azurescens Cultivation [Re: mushboy]
#23773449 - 10/26/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Spore Ninja
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Re: Wild Outdoor Azurescens Cultivation [Re: amidogen]
#23774144 - 10/26/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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amidogen said: It's also not like OP is just trying to grow a few shrooms in an outdoor bed.
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phesoj said: I have been thinking about trying to introduce wild growing ps. azurescens in the UK.
But it would be the same effect. A slightly smaller scale perhaps- but it's the exact same thing.
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Re: Wild Outdoor Azurescens Cultivation [Re: Spore Ninja]
#23774156 - 10/26/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You gave us cyans we give you azurs and everybody wins
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Panarchist
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Re: Wild Outdoor Azurescens Cultivation [Re: amidogen]
#23774947 - 10/26/16 10:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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just because a certain species is foreign to an area doesn't necessarily mean that it's introduction to that environment will have negative effects. i live in florida and we have a number of issues with different types of invasive species but at the same time we have a number of other foreign species which simply flourish but do not become problematic. for example, mango trees are not native to this area but they do well in this environment. yet i have never heard anyone suggest their presence is a cause for concern.
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Re: Wild Outdoor Azurescens Cultivation [Re: Panarchist]
#23775088 - 10/26/16 10:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Some guy wants to grow azurs in the UK and suddenly everyone else is a conservation ecologist 
I say grow 'em.
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Re: Wild Outdoor Azurescens Cultivation [Re: Greg]
#23775094 - 10/26/16 10:44 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Greg said: Some guy wants to grow azurs in the UK and suddenly everyone else is a conservation ecologist 


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