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 Re: Woman has heart attack while watching "The Passion"  [Re: Learyfan]
#2378806 - 02/26/04 09:36 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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The jews and the romans wanted Jesus dead. Why do we have to pretend that it was eskimos? And I don't understand why there would be a backlash. And besides all that, we all killed Jesus, because of our sins. And even more besides that, no one would have killed Jesus if it wasn't God's will.
Even if the Jews were guilty of killing Jesus, it happened 2000 years or so ago. Why would we blame current day Jews? It's like blaming current-day citizens of the U.S. for enslaving Africans or killing Indians.
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Re: Woman has heart attack while watching "The Passion" [Re: lukeboots]
#2380189 - 02/26/04 03:40 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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jonnywax said:
"Churches marketing the movie, marketing their religous beliefs... Wooo Hooo!"
jesus would roll in his grave at the thought (if he had one). this is the very thing he doesn't want happening. a good message clouded by box-office hit status and churches making money from his teachings..
I dont think that Jesus would be turning in his grave since this is an accurate potrayal of the gospel of christ. Nothing is added to make it more suiting to the masses. In fact the whipping and carrying of the cross in the movie (if I were to judge by my normal standards for movies) was extremely monotonous.
I can see the problem with the millions of dollars made by this film, but I remember when I first heard of this movie they estimated they wouldnt even break even. I believe Mel Gibson had good intentions in the making of this film.
Furthermore, this film is the evangelic chance for christians ever.
I have already had tons of dialogues with people who saw the movie and it made them want to know more about christianity. I know the majority of you dont care, but as a christian I welcome the very idea of this movie and its vivid display of the crucifixion.
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 Re: Woman has heart attack while watching "The Passion" [Re: Sclorch]
#2380248 - 02/26/04 04:02 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sclorch said:
If only the esoterica crowd had more buying power... maybe Mel would make a movie on Carlos Castenada or something.
Can I call it or what?
Carlos Castaneda: Enigma of a Sorceror (2004)
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mabus
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Re: Woman has heart attack while watching "The Passion" [Re: Frog]
#2380511 - 02/26/04 05:03 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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The jews and the romans wanted Jesus dead.
The Jews wanted him dead, and then they followed through with it. There is no debate about it if you believe the new testament.
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Why do we have to pretend that it was eskimos?
Why do you have to pretend it was god's will.
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And besides all that, we all killed Jesus, because of our sins.
Whoa, not mabus. Why did you have to say all?
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And even more besides that, no one would have killed Jesus if it wasn't God's will.
God's will? What? See, even you won't blame the Jews who lived at the time of christ, instead it was god's will. Basically its safer for everyone if they stick with the god's will version. Its better not to get modern Jews angry, but for the sake of arguement: The Jews of jesus's time bribed judas to betray jesus so they could capture him. Once they had him they charged him, found him guilty of breaking Jewish law, then turned him over to the romans who were in charge of giving out the punishments. Since jesus really did'nt break any roman law, it was turned back over to the Jews to make the final judgement. The Jews of jesus's time had alot of pratice putting people to death ya know. And the result was exactly what happened to thousands who broke Jewish law.
If this movie does'nt get edited and the jews replaced by eskimos alot of other things in the media will get banned. Why did mel have to make the Jews look bad? I wish he had gone with the god's will theme instead.
Its already starting. Modern Jews control the media, and alot of everything else, in the passions case its an indy film and theres really not much they can do about it. But they will start editing and banning other things to show their power over things they do control. Just wait and see. When the movie opened overseas alot started. It started with janets boob. Those who like howard stern, well c ya. Heres what howard said: Howard took another phone call from a guy who said that Howard might be quitting and he has a meeting with Mel on March 8th. Howard said that he won't be having that meeting, he canceled it. more jew comments ....Wendy asked Howard to play ''the Jew song'' but he didn't know what she was talking about. She mentioned The Backside Boys song ''Backside's Back'' and said that she called it the Jew song because she figured a Jew wrote it. Artie thanked her for her ''retarded logic.'' Howard went on to ask her if she wanted to replace Stuttering John. She said ''yes'' to every question he asked her after that. He broke into another song with lyrics like ''Send in the retarded clowns.'' That led to Wendy talking about bowling again and she said she bowled a 149 without bumpers. Howard aid he bowled about 74 when he played last week. He put Wendy on hold so he could play that ''Jew song'' for her. He got her back on the line a few seconds later and asked her if she knows that cat doody isn't chocolate. He also asked her if the FCC Commissioners all gang raped her. She was responding ''Yes'' to every question he asked of course. Howard had Fred play the ''Jew song'' for Wendy. It's actually the Backside Boys (Howard and the guys) performing ''Backside's Back.'' Howard spent some time talking about Mel Gibson's ''The Passion of the Christ'' and how a woman died while watching the movie out in the mid-west. Howard talked about Gibson's father and how wacky that guy is and how Mel can only please him by making a movie about Jesus. He went on to goof on Gibson and his father for a couple of minutes. He joked that Mel is working on some other movies where the Jews do all kinds of goofy stuff.
BAN BAN BAN the passion. Stop mel before its too late. please mel, no more movies that make the jewish community angry with us!
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Re: Woman has heart attack while watching "The Passion" [Re: mabus]
#2380604 - 02/26/04 05:39 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't understand any of this. I really don't. It is nearly impossible for me to become offended, so I attribute not "getting" other peoples offendedness to my own ignorance.
Jesus is a hot issue, granted (God only knows why, there is so much more that has happend since that we really should be focusing on) but shouldn't Jews be happy this is happening? Jews are against Jesus usually. Well, if Jews are looking to be "kosher" with the rest of the world, living side by side, without any confrontational issues endagering the relationship, then yeah, I can understand why they are against this movie.
I guess I can see christian morons getting pissed off at what they see in a movie and going out and killing all the Jews they can find. I hope this happens, there isn't aren't nearly enough hate crimes attached to religious beliefs these days. Maybe I would have been happier in the time of the crusades.
I'm all for this movie, but can anyone help me make more people disjointed about it? I am loving the boiling passions of religious sheeple (sorry, but that word is too good not to jack) we're seeing now. I want to help expediate the civil war these ANCIENT feelings are bound to create. Bag me some Jew beanies.
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mabus
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Re: Woman has heart attack while watching "The Passion" [Re: recalcitrant]
#2380620 - 02/26/04 05:47 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well, if Jews are looking to be "kosher" with the rest of the world, living side by side, without any confrontational issues endagering the relationship, then yeah, I can understand why they are against this movie.
bingo.And mel is going to suffer for it by having his career nixed.
new york times article:
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New Film May Harm Gibson's Career
By SHARON WAXMAN
OS ANGELES, Feb. 25 ? Mel Gibson's provocative new film, "The Passion of the Christ," is making some of Hollywood's most prominent executives uncomfortable in ways that may damage Mr. Gibson's career.
Hollywood is a close-knit world, and friendships and social contact are critical in the making of deals and the casting of movies. Many of Hollywood's most prominent figures are also Jewish. So with a furor arising around the film, along with Mr. Gibson's reluctance to distance himself from his father, who calls the Holocaust mostly fiction, it is no surprise that Hollywood ? Jewish and non-Jewish ? has been talking about little else, at least when it's not talking about the Oscars.
Jeffrey Katzenberg and David Geffen, the principals of DreamWorks, have privately expressed anger over the film, said an executive close to the two men.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/26/movies...t&position=
Kerry said in an interview here: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&a...3&printer=1
Kerry, a Catholic, said he was worried about the movie's potential anti-Semitism. Some critics have complained that Gibson portrays Jews as responsible for Jesus' death.
"I am concerned," he told reporters. "I don't know if it's there or not but there's a lot of it around now. I think we have to be careful."
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Re: Woman has heart attack while watching "The Passion" [Re: dr_gonz]
#2381000 - 02/26/04 08:04 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not too tasteful, that post 
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Re: Woman has heart attack while watching "The Passion" [Re: Swami]
#2381022 - 02/26/04 08:11 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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they should ban movies now, and tv too!!!!! this woman did not need to see a movie if she's gonna die when an actor of jesus get's done in. people's emtotions *sigh*
is there an actual article or is this story made up??? 
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Re: Woman has heart attack while watching "The Passion" [Re: Swami]
#2381060 - 02/26/04 08:21 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not that any of what I am going to say matters I am sick of saying it myself. Why the hell don't people realize that the New testament is just rehashed Eygption myth and Nordic myths. That Jesus did exist but he was a political reformer and the whole idea of his resurrection was taken from the Myth of Osires, or the myth about Odin he two had a Crown of thorns. Christianity has got to be one of the simplest Religions that has ever existed and I can not believe that Mel Gibson is a Christian nut case, his interview destroyed all of his credibility. Anyway who cares if a women died watching the movie they are just using that idea to promote the damn film., how Christian of them to promote a Religion with someones death. I am sorry about the long rant.
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Re: Woman has heart attack while watching "The Passion" [Re: Frog]
#2381503 - 02/26/04 10:34 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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The jews and the romans wanted Jesus dead.
"The Jews" is a pretty broad group. "The Jews" were also his followers, so it's hard to make a broad statement about that. It's like saying "the Arabs" wanted Mohammed dead. Of course many did, but his followers were also Arabs. Considering the fact that the story of Jesus took place in Israel, I think you could be comfortable in saying that pretty much everyone in that story was Jewish, including Jesus himself so blaming the Jews for what a few of them did doesn't seem quite fair.
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Re: Woman has heart attack while watching "The Passion" [Re: silversoul7]
#2381892 - 02/27/04 01:47 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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I doubt there was any correlation between the film and the heart attack.
If everyone in the cinema died.. then that would be a maybe.
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Re: Woman has heart attack while watching "The Passion" [Re: teen]
#2383133 - 02/27/04 12:24 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Please see the dozen threads on synchronicity and coincidence. 
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Re: Woman has heart attack while watching "The Passion" [Re: teen]
#2383153 - 02/27/04 12:29 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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teen said:
I doubt there was any correlation between the film and the heart attack.
If everyone in the cinema died.. then that would be a maybe.
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mabus
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Re: Woman has heart attack while watching "The Passion" [Re: Swami]
#2383522 - 02/27/04 02:05 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Now mel is a terrorist. We should have banned this film when we had the chance! Its too late now, too many have seen the film, and like it!...It is done. Don't say I did'nt try and warn everyone. 
Jewish Groups Calls
'The Passion' An Act
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2-27-4
WASHINGTON D.C. (Capitol Press) - A prominent Jewish organization has denounced Mel Gibson's "The Passion" as an act of terrorism and can prove the movie violates the Patriot Act.
Jews Against Anti-Semitism, a recently formed Washington D.C. based defense league for Jews, has issued a press release pointing out sections of U.S. law which are being violated by Mel Gibson's film.
"Clearly there are laws on the books which have outlawed the inciting of riots or acts civil disobedience which endanger human life. Mel Gibson's movie will incite violence against Jews and put the lives of million of Jews in danger" said Rabbi David Feldman, a spokes person for Jews Against Anti-Semitism.
According to Rabbi Feldman "Under Section 802 of the 2001 USA Patriot Act, any crime which endangers human life is defined as an act of domestic terrorism. Mel Gibson's incitement of anti-Semitism is a civil disobedience crime which endangers human life and under the Patriot Act "The Passion" is an act of domestic terrorism"
The USA Patriot Act was signed into law by President George W. Bush shortly after the September 11th terrorist attacks in New York and Washington D.C. in order to protect Americans from terrorism.
"We are hereby calling on Attorney General John Ashcroft, the Department of Justice, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge and the Department of Homeland Security to arrest Mel Gibson as a terrorist, confiscate all prints of "the Passion", confiscate all materials related to the film as "terrorist paraphernalia" and shut down every terrorist hate site on the internet supporting the film" said Rabbi Feldman.
The Justice Department and the Department of Homeland Security have yet to respond to the inquiries made by Capitol Press regarding this story.
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