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New Macklemore song on - Big Pharma, drug abuse, opioid epidemic, the lifes it all destroys
#23771524 - 10/25/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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-------------------- Pain is temporary. It may last for a minute or an hour or a day or even a year but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it will last forever.
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Re: New Macklemore song on - Big Pharma, drug abuse, opioid epidemic, the lifes it all destroys [Re: daz01]
#23771561 - 10/25/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Accurate song
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Re: New Macklemore song on - Big Pharma, drug abuse, opioid epidemic, the lifes it all destroys [Re: ModestMouse]
#23771590 - 10/25/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Damn, that shit was too real, literally tears in my eyes from this. Great song.
"I'm caught up, I'm on one, I'm nauseous, no options, exhausted, this is not what I started"
That shit really got to me.
Macklemore is definitely one of the realest writers in the rap game for sure, songs like this and Other Side are just so real and accurate, you don't even have to like the song to like the song because the story is just so good.
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Re: New Macklemore song on - Big Pharma, drug abuse, opioid epidemic, the lifes it all destroys [Re: lonelypsychonaut]
#23775540 - 10/27/16 02:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's definitely one of his best yet! The raw emotion and he's a pretty good actor, though obviously he made his real emotions and experiences surface for the video! I like how he mentioned alot of the recently died celebrities names.... might make people realise even more
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Re: New Macklemore song on - Big Pharma, drug abuse, opioid epidemic, the lifes it all destroys [Re: daz01]
#23775566 - 10/27/16 03:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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daz01 said: "These drug addicts DID NOT choose for this to happen"
didnt they choose it?
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Re: New Macklemore song on - Big Pharma, drug abuse, opioid epidemic, the lifes it all destroys [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23775895 - 10/27/16 08:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The song kinda sucks but the llyrics are powerful.
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Re: New Macklemore song on - Big Pharma, drug abuse, opioid epidemic, the lifes it all destroys [Re: Patlal]
#23775943 - 10/27/16 08:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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yes but it's also bullshit, doctors dont get you hooked on the drugs, you do that yourself. my mother had the same bottle of hydrocodone for 3 years, the bottle said "take as needed" and she did, apparently she only needed only about 10 per year, why are so many people addicted to these drugs? because THEY CHOOSE to abuse them, not because big pharma made them do it, not because their doctor prescribed them and macklemore fails to place the blame where the blame belongs, on the drug seeker
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Re: New Macklemore song on - Big Pharma, drug abuse, opioid epidemic, the lifes it all destroys [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23776086 - 10/27/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shes just lucky that her brain isnt wired for strong drug reinforcement
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Re: New Macklemore song on - Big Pharma, drug abuse, opioid epidemic, the lifes it all destroys [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
#23776095 - 10/27/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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no, she made a conscious decision not to abuse pain medications, alcohol and other drugs, I've done the same thing. I love many drugs but I'm very capable of simply not buying them and when I do have them, choosing not to use them
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Re: New Macklemore song on - Big Pharma, drug abuse, opioid epidemic, the lifes it all destroys [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23776250 - 10/27/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Prescribing oxy to people who dont know what it is and take it because they trust their doctors and then start realizing that they can't follow the dosage instructions because of cravings isn't their fault.
Don't blame the fish for swallowing the hook, especially when a person you should be able to trust told you to do it for your well being.
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Re: New Macklemore song on - Big Pharma, drug abuse, opioid epidemic, the lifes it all destroys [Re: Patlal]
#23776312 - 10/27/16 11:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just had a hip replaced, I got prescribed Oxy for the pain. I only took it at night so I could sleep. That shit is seriously powerful. During the days though I went through intense withdrawals, I had no idea that's what was happening until I went to the Dr. and asked why i was sweating so much during the day and couldn't eat and felt like shit. He told me i was experiencing opiate withdrawals and that this is how people get addicted.
I am lucky that I don't have an addictive personality, I HATED feeling the way i felt throughout the day and knew if I took an oxy i would feel better, but didn't because i didnt have as much pain throughout the day. It was so crazy & I can see how easily people can become addicted so easily who have less will power.
I really dont know what else I could have done for the pain at night, so I don't blame the doctors at all. You just need to be responsible about the shit and use it only when you need it.
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Re: New Macklemore song on - Big Pharma, drug abuse, opioid epidemic, the lifes it all destroys [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23776624 - 10/27/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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daz01 said: "These drug addicts DID NOT choose for this to happen"
didnt they choose it?
I think he means that when people get into drugs, all the see is the fun/positive side. They don't realize the darkness that they could get into (and sometimes eventually do without knowing it until its too late) when they're just starting out.
When he says "this is NOT what I started", he's probably referring to this. It probably started out as fun and games, but now is the complete opposite. A friend of mine was addicted to Xanax at the beginning of this year. He took it for his anxiety and sometimes for fun, and he always had a good time on it. But then the addiction set in and life slapped hard in the face with these realizations.
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Re: New Macklemore song on - Big Pharma, drug abuse, opioid epidemic, the lifes it all destroys [Re: blood4blood]
#23776632 - 10/27/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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blood4blood said: I just had a hip replaced, I got prescribed Oxy for the pain. I only took it at night so I could sleep. That shit is seriously powerful. During the days though I went through intense withdrawals, I had no idea that's what was happening until I went to the Dr. and asked why i was sweating so much during the day and couldn't eat and felt like shit. He told me i was experiencing opiate withdrawals and that this is how people get addicted.
I am lucky that I don't have an addictive personality, I HATED feeling the way i felt throughout the day and knew if I took an oxy i would feel better, but didn't because i didnt have as much pain throughout the day. It was so crazy & I can see how easily people can become addicted so easily who have less will power.
I really dont know what else I could have done for the pain at night, so I don't blame the doctors at all. You just need to be responsible about the shit and use it only when you need it.
Good for you man. Not a lot of people are smart enough/have the will power to be a strong as you and know the consequences. Its so much easier to give up and fall into it.
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Re: New Macklemore song on - Big Pharma, drug abuse, opioid epidemic, the lifes it all destroys [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23778977 - 10/28/16 12:53 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: no, she made a conscious decision not to abuse pain medications, alcohol and other drugs, I've done the same thing. I love many drugs but I'm very capable of simply not buying them and when I do have them, choosing not to use them
Im also able to just not buy them but other people arent because they experience much stronger drug reinforcement
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Re: New Macklemore song on - Big Pharma, drug abuse, opioid epidemic, the lifes it all destroys [Re: Patlal]
#23779083 - 10/28/16 02:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Prescribing oxy to people who dont know what it is and take it because they trust their doctors and then start realizing that they can't follow the dosage instructions because of cravings isn't their fault.
Don't blame the fish for swallowing the hook, especially when a person you should be able to trust told you to do it for your well being.
Doctors do need to educate people more. The authoritarian thing of not telling people things just because they "don't have time" or we don't need to know is a rampant problem in modern healthcare.
I have an addictive personality but when I need pain meds I should be able to take pain meds and be responsible for myself. If I abuse them then I live with the consequences of addiction and don't have them when I'm in pain again. I have a problem. The doctor treats my problem. I abuse the treatment. That is MY problem.
It's like blaming walmart for selling airduster or your HVAC guy for putting freon in your AC unit or your pharmacy for selling robitussin. You could always just not take it. But that doesn't happen when you're in pain. Because its a pain medication and thaaaats what it does.
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Re: New Macklemore song on - Big Pharma, drug abuse, opioid epidemic, the lifes it all destroys [Re: Patlal]
#23779204 - 10/28/16 04:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Prescribing oxy to people who dont know what it is and take it because they trust their doctors and then start realizing that they can't follow the dosage instructions because of cravings isn't their fault.
Don't blame the fish for swallowing the hook, especially when a person you should be able to trust told you to do it for your well being.
lol... who the fuck doesnt know what opiods are?
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Re: New Macklemore song on - Big Pharma, drug abuse, opioid epidemic, the lifes it all destroys [Re: lonelypsychonaut]
#23779208 - 10/28/16 04:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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lonelypsychonaut said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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daz01 said: "These drug addicts DID NOT choose for this to happen"
didnt they choose it?
I think he means that when people get into drugs, all the see is the fun/positive side. They don't realize the darkness that they could get into (and sometimes eventually do without knowing it until its too late) when they're just starting out.
so he's saying stupid people made stupid choices and now wants to blame the doctards
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Re: New Macklemore song on - Big Pharma, drug abuse, opioid epidemic, the lifes it all destroys [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#23779212 - 10/28/16 04:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said:
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Patlal said: Prescribing oxy to people who dont know what it is and take it because they trust their doctors and then start realizing that they can't follow the dosage instructions because of cravings isn't their fault.
Don't blame the fish for swallowing the hook, especially when a person you should be able to trust told you to do it for your well being.
Doctors do need to educate people more. The authoritarian thing of not telling people things just because they "don't have time" or we don't need to know is a rampant problem in modern healthcare.
doctards arent there to take everyone by the hand and show them the right way and wrong way, the information has always been made available and all anyone has to do is request it. I personally dont know anyone that doesnt know that a number of prescription drugs are addictive and can be lethal, hell, even many children know these things
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Re: New Macklemore song on - Big Pharma, drug abuse, opioid epidemic, the lifes it all destroys [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#23779280 - 10/28/16 05:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Macklemore is a preachy left wing douche bag. I'm not giving him and clicks or time of day. He can go off and fuck himself.
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Re: New Macklemore song on - Big Pharma, drug abuse, opioid epidemic, the lifes it all destroys [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23779504 - 10/28/16 08:16 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Prescribing oxy to people who dont know what it is and take it because they trust their doctors and then start realizing that they can't follow the dosage instructions because of cravings isn't their fault.
Don't blame the fish for swallowing the hook, especially when a person you should be able to trust told you to do it for your well being.
lol... who the fuck doesnt know what opiods are?
You would be extremely surprised. The word opiods doesn't say what meds contain opiods.
EDIT: I have to come back to this..... Really Pris? We live in a world where most people can't even use the words there, they're and their correctly. Opiods isn't a word that comes up often in regular conversation.
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