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Pastywhyte
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Re: Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek Issue [Re: PirateSwazey]
#23819662 - 11/10/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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I haven't properly pasteurized coir in years. Why does the bucket work for me?
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tombosley8
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Re: Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek Issue [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23819891 - 11/10/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just for the record
it seems crackbaby is arguing that uneven heating or no heat will cause lower performance meaning speed output etc, not that it will make it contam.
As pirate swazey said regardless if you mix it or not it will be heated enough for the performance you're looking for. I don't think you'll be able to notice much difference in performance if you sterilized after that.
Also I used to use these gloves to mix while hot. https://www.amazon.com/772-Nitrile-Length-Chemical-Resistant/dp/B004US9VKS
or similar can't find the exact ones
still I think a small shovel should work fine or like pasty and you agreed that breaking it up prior and no mixing is best.
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Re: Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek Issue [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23819900 - 11/10/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: I haven't properly pasteurized coir in years. Why does the bucket work for me?

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AlCapone2k
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Re: Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek Issue [Re: tripdawg420]
#23819965 - 11/10/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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hey guys,
just to get rid of my confusion always comming up when reading the discussion here and in other threads:
When you discuss the sense of treating the coir, you always mean CVG substrate, right? Or at least CV subtrate, right? And not only the coir brick?
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Re: Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek Issue [Re: AlCapone2k]
#23820011 - 11/10/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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AFAIK verm has no lignin that gets broken down by heat. I use verm to fluff up the coir sub, and always mix coir+verm in the bucket. so we're talking about the differences in the treatment of coir, the verm just hangs around for the ride.
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Re: Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek Issue [Re: spacechildo]
#23820140 - 11/10/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fine, that was what I was understanding from the discussions, just thought to better ask
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Inocuole
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Re: Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek Issue [Re: AlCapone2k]
#23820553 - 11/10/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, it's the full CVG that we are talking about. Can't believe this opt out is still struggling over basic shit..
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AlCapone2k
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Re: Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek Issue [Re: Inocuole]
#23820603 - 11/10/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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what does opt out mean? (sorry )
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Edited by AlCapone2k (11/10/16 06:19 PM)
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crackbaby
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Re: Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek Issue [Re: AlCapone2k]
#23820606 - 11/10/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Yes, it's the full CVG that we are talking about. Can't believe this opt out is still struggling over basic shit..
that question already got answered, moron.
see-- Quote:
AlCapone2k said: Fine, that was what I was understanding from the discussions, just thought to better ask 
It's pretty obvious you're bumping this thread to stir up some more shit
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Re: Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek Issue [Re: crackbaby]
#23820608 - 11/10/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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crackbaby
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Re: Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek Issue [Re: AlCapone2k]
#23820621 - 11/10/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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AlCapone2k said: what does opt out mean? (sorry )
it means you opt out of the general ratings, thus denying such imbeciles as inocule and spacechild from deriving any sort of juvenile satisfaction by inflicting their petty vengeance (on your ratings that they think you give a shit about) because you disagree with them
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Inocuole
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Re: Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek Issue [Re: crackbaby]
#23820636 - 11/10/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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The ratings are to show which people give shitty irrelevant advice and they work really well in that regard. So when people opt out of them they've basically conceded that they are failures at teaching and social interaction.
The only reason you would opt out is if so many people hated you that you had to. So I can be an imbecile all day. At least it's not well understood that I run my mouth about shit I don't understand to the point that I had to stop accepting opinions about how shitty I am. That's got to suck.
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Re: Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek Issue [Re: crackbaby] 3
#23820672 - 11/10/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Guys, have I made something wrong?
Actually I didn't even know that this "General Rating" exist. So "to opt them out" means to turn them off like crybaby did?
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Re: Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek Issue [Re: AlCapone2k]
#23820674 - 11/10/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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AlCapone2k said: what does opt out mean? (sorry )
when you see 2 or more people without TC tags disagreeing, you can look at the amount of mushrooms under their username. some have 5/5 blue mushrooms, some have 4/5, and some just say "unrated".
the worst of them all has none of this under their name, their average given ratings were so bad they got embarrased, so they opted out of the ratings system.
opt outs are usually trolls or people just looking to give bad advice in order for others to fail at culting as hard as they do themselves.
under your name f.ex. there's 5 blue mushrooms. in mush cult, that means you're a decent member. pubbers and Off topic discussion members usually have less than 5/5, because they all neg rate eachother in order to start a ruckus.
you should also click those 5/5 mushroom-ratings to see who gave them, and how many they have in total. its not a fool proof method of judging who to trust and who not to trust, but its a good start.
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AlCapone2k said: Actually I didn't even know that this "General Rating" exist. So "to opt them out" means to turn them off like crybaby did?
yes, spot on!
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Re: Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek Issue [Re: AlCapone2k]
#23820678 - 11/10/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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AlCapone2k said: Guys, have I made something wrong?
Actually I didn't even know that this "General Rating" exist. So "to opt them out" means to turn them off like crybaby did?
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Re: Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek Issue [Re: AlCapone2k]
#23820685 - 11/10/16 06:40 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ahhhh, now I understand the system
I didn't know that it exists and it is really helpful I think. So in futre I can see the ratings and take them at least as an indication about the quality of the answer.
You helped me a lot guys!
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Re: Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek Issue [Re: AlCapone2k]
#23820737 - 11/10/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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ya like the shroom ratings are a really accurate indicator of a member's integrity or quality of character. It's essentially a high school popularity contest at best (how else would a mean-spirited cunt like innocule get such a high rating?). What's worse, is that it provides an opportunity for petty minded weasels to go behind your back to exact their little revenge--resulting in many members (who actually care about their ratings for whatever reason) to censor themselves for fear of getting their ratings fucked with.
As you might notice, i speak my mind freely without fear of such 'repercussions', so y'all can lick my balls
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Re: Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek Issue [Re: crackbaby] 1
#23820760 - 11/10/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sounds like you should be rocking your shroom rating with pride in that case. Nothing screams "lick my balls" quite like 1 shroom
Note to self: avoid future coir threads
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek Issue [Re: crackbaby]
#23820801 - 11/10/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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In the pub or other non cult related areas of the site ratings probably are popularity contests to a degree. But here in mush cult it's mostly the quality of information given that determines the rating given. That's how a "mean spirited cunt" can have a positive rating. It's more about the quality of information than whether it was delivered with whipped cream and sprinkles.
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Re: Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek Issue [Re: crackbaby]
#23820811 - 11/10/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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crackbaby said: It's essentially a high school popularity contest at best (how else would a mean-spirited cunt like innocule get such a high rating?).
because he gives good advice and that's what people consider when they give ratings. it doesnt matter how many smileys you put after your posts if your advice/post is crap.
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crackbaby said: (who actually care about their ratings for whatever reason) to censor themselves for fear of getting their ratings fucked with.
As you might notice, i speak my mind freely without fear of such 'repercussions', so y'all can lick my balls 
newbs care about ratings, us regulars knows who to listen to and not based off prior experience.
the only thing I've noticed is you give consistently bad advice, misleading advice, based off things you think you've read someone else say.
the "repercussions" is on the newbs asking questions, you mislead them into doing bad choices with their grows and its really a dick move.
this is, as you say yourself, a forum for mush cult. not a popularity contest. so you should take your butthurt feelings elsewhere.
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