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Humble Student Registered: 11/30/11 Posts: 26,088 Loc: Deep in the syst |
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Quote: LOL, I got a taste of your generation when I went raving for the first time in years this weekend. I really saw the difference, as someone that started raving back in 99, at the end of the PLUR era and has been off the scene for years. Trying to talk to people at a rave these days is received almost as if you're whipping you cock out and pissing in the middle of the crowd of people you're trying to talk to. Seeing men put so much effort into their appearance too was a bit of a slap in the face to me; that's the antithesis of manliness in my eyes. I had figured the lack of desire or effort to communicate with strangers was much a London thing, but perhaps it's more a western cultural thing for generations born in the 90's onwards? There's a certain ignorance that seems to come attached - just because I was making an effort to communicate people looked at me like I was a bit mentally deranged or some kind of emotional retard. I share the same feelings about the emergence of the hookup trend. It's polluting the beauty that arises from deep and meaningful relationships between humans. Our 'throw away' culture was bad enough when it was just in regards to things. The fact that it has now spread to relationships the way it has leaves me very sad for the people in the midst of it. Superficiality has come to reign supreme - something which I can't stand to be around. I'm hoping that, away from the cities, hopefully this trend will not be as rife as it is in them. I'll soon find out. -------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Waxing Prophetic Registered: 02/22/13 Posts: 2,514 Loc: The Enterprise Last seen: 3 years, 8 months |
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Yeah it's quite intense, especially for people who are at the same stage, or age, in life as all of those superficial humdingers. My friends and I are quite aware of superficiality as being a legitimate and pressing issue in the world today,
we're doing our best to bring depth into our own lives, but when you go out in public it's impossible to break through to people who aren't already on that wavelength. Even meeting someone who can talk at length about deep, meaningful topics, form a powerful emotional connection in a night, and fit the perfect model of someone who could establish a meaningful friendship, I'm at risk of coming face to face with the ramifications of hook-up culture. She just drops off the face of the world the next day, ignoring me for weeks, and making any kind of attempt to contact her is perceived as "lame", just because, from the perspective of someone only interested in sex, I should be emotionally callous enough to not even care. It's a crazy world nowadays
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Stranger Registered: 10/23/16 Posts: 146 Last seen: 7 years, 2 months |
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Quote: Have you considered that at least some of those may have alternative reasons for avoiding talking? I mean I've never been to raves nor would I ever go, the BPM is too high for me there, but at psytrance fests I've noticed that talking to people while they're on acid is a very hit-and-miss activity, and so I quickly learned to use other forms of communication. Juggling, eye contact, dance, anything BUT talking. Furthermore when I'm in that state (outdoor tripping) I will avoid talkers like the fucking plague. Singing is OK, but not melody-less talking, because well, I'm a bird or some kind of animal, I need to see your animal play, not hear your human head go bla-bla. I've had plenty of that already, that's what I'm taking break from. Not trying to offend or anything, this is my genuine approach out at festivals and I do see it work. I genuinely consider talking, verbalizing too early, fast, or without other forms of prior contact, as being rude, breaking the spall, disrupting the magic, especially if it's some question that requires me to verbalize back (can't be answered with body language alone). I see or hear group of talkers, in the human talking mindset, I will just stay away, or maybe lure them out of it (howl, dance, hypnotize them in some way) ![]() Am saying that some (probably most) people there may not be on this trip I'm talking about here, but some may well be, especially if on shrooms or acid. Quote: Jesus Lord man, that's blasphemy of the highest order As birds, all we have is our dance, songs and feathers, the colors. Appearance goes to colors, feathers. Look at any bird species and you'll see males take exquisite care of their plumage, as well as of course dance and songs, they must be well correlated and coherent and in the flow. Well timed. These are precisely the kinds of signals that break down under use of alcohol, cigs or other mind-numbing molecules, thus signaling to females "here's a dude that's neglectful with themselves." Equally self-neglectful beings know to come closer, more harmonized ones know to stay away. That's why you have trippers with the trippers, drunks with the drunks, smokers with the smokers. Maybe rave dudes do some stuff that they don't have at psytrance festivals, I wouldn't know about that, but the more I've been the more I understood why a guy would have body paint on, more intricated decorated clothes, pants, some nice fun colorful toys, etc. I myself juggle LED balls and blow soap bubbles to spread some good vibes around, I don't have other weird stuff yet, but that's just because I'm on a budget. How can you say that spending time on own appearance is un-manly? Amazing.
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Humble Student Registered: 11/30/11 Posts: 26,088 Loc: Deep in the syst |
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Quote: Because you and I are very clearly from different times and places in this world. You can try and philosophise away my last post all you like, but you're just banging your head against a brick wall (and looking a bit silly in the process, if I'm honest) trying to dissect a phenomenon you've never laid eyes on yourself. I'm a big festival goer too, and I tell you now you're talking about environments which are literally the polar opposite of one another, aside of the fact they both play lots of loud music. The attitudes of the people who attend them are therefore very different. As for your comparison between human and avian males, I have been down this path of thought many times already in an attempt to understand why this aspect of being a male has changed so much in the years I've been aware of it. When I was younger, the guy who got the best looking woman was not the best looking man. He didn't pluck and groom and wear brightly coloured and well tailored expensive clothing. He was the hard cunt; the one who had made his way to the top of the social ladder by fighting any other male in his vicinity that threatened him or his position. It looked like the human equivalent of this: (skip to 1:10 if you wanna get straight to the action) It was just the norm for me from the age of about 10 onwards. I once held the dominant position in my environment in my youth, and by rights I had the best woman available, until my parents moved me to a different country where I found I was unable to take the dominant position from the guy that held it. He and I eventually became friends, but I couldn't get the attention of the girl I wanted there because he had it. Whilst I didn't understand the underlying dynamics I was facing at the time, in hindsight it all makes sense. Now bear in mind this was at a time when there was no internet, no mobile phones, and away from major cities. Fashion was not even on the radar for us. It is my belief that fighting to establish dominance is how the human male operates by default; if one observes a chimp society the same dynamic holds true. And seeing as they are our closest relatives I think it safe to assume that without outside influence, this is how we are wired to operate. However what we have now is a changing dynamic, in which males compete for the best females not by being the strongest, and thus by fighting to establish dominance. To me, now days, it all looks far more like a show of either attractiveness, something akin to the human equivalent of this: Or a show of wealth, something akin to the human equivalent of this: I feel it's all a bit superficial and trashy, and I feel it's getting steadily worse. The massive volume of men packed into gyms these days is not because they want to attain strength and fitness so that they can fight to the top - it's so they can 'peacock' in front of females in the hope of being chosen. The gym has been a part of my life for over 15 years, so I know whereof I speak. When I was younger, you hardly ever saw a guy with muscles outside of a TV where I live. Now days you can't walk down the street without seeing one. There was no supplement market (which is now worth billions) and no advertising shoved in your face which subliminally told you that 'this is how you need to look to get the chicks'. So we just did what was natural. However in this age of global connectedness, trends are spread worldwide, and strengthened by their prevality. It's essentially the same process that women went through in the 1920's, when cinema first started to spread. Because beautiful actresses started to be seen worldwide, women have tried (or perhaps been forced) to match their looks to meet that standard of attractiveness if they want to attract the best males. Now this trend has caught up for men, who must also match the ideal set for attractiveness to get the best females. I was starkly reminded of this fact recently talking to a 15yr old boy one of my best friends is fostering. He was commenting on my muscles, and told me how he really wants a six pack. So I said 'what about being fit and strong though?' - no, he just wanted a six pack. So I said, didn't he want to have muscles all over? - nope, just that six pack. It make me cry a little inside for the state of human affairs right now. I mean I get why we don't fight so much. It's very frowned upon, and there are legal implications, and we also live in an age where some people just wont stop, even when the fight is clearly over. There are also others who will seek revenge, and others who will cheat by using knives etc. But when, and where I grew up, fighting was just a thing you did, and like the animals above there was no ego involved, for the most part. That all changed for me when some cunt nearly gave me brain damage by running at me from behind, sucker punching me in the base of the skull, and then going to town on my head like it was a football, even though I was out cold the moment I hit the floor. What's even more worrying is people stood by and watched it happen without trying to stop him. I've never been bothered about losing a fight or getting beaten up, but that man broke something that hurt me more than any bone that day - my heart. He took away my belief that two men could fight with honour, and showed me the world I was now living in, and sowed the seeds that have grown the roots of misanthropy into my heart and soul. A very different world indeed... A world that is changing at a steadily increasing rate, and in such an unhealthy way, spurred by the advances in technology, and in turn we are becoming more and more superficial in our ways. We're more connected than ever, but further from each other emotionally and spiritually than ever. Now days it is the norm to only show the world the parts of yourself you want to show, and it is easy to hide the rest. You convey your status through your appearance, and through the same process that caused the birds of paradise to become more and more brightly coloured over time, we are also becoming more and more showy over time. I don't like it one bit, as superficiality is something I despise. It's a big part of the reason I'll be fucking off to Australia next year to go and live in the middle of nowhere as a farmer, communing with nature and therefore god. I want to be as far from society as I can. I've seen the direction the mainstream is heading in, and it's essentially moving in a direction which is taking us further and further from achieving our potential. We're sacrificing spiritual, physical and emotional health in exchange for material and superficial gain, gorging ourselves on frivolous pursuits, just like society is programming us to, and no one seems to notice that in the process we're losing connection with our souls, the souls of others, and god (whatever form you imagine him in) in the meantime. I want no part in it. Frankly, the whole state of affairs both sickens and frightens me. I'm sickened by what's becoming the norm, and frightened that so few people are waking up and realising that our society is sick, and that we're in a viscious circle where our society is making us sick: It's no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a sick society. --Jiddu Krishnamurti And yet so many people strive to just fit in. Truly, herd mentality at its finest, gently assisted by TPTB. -------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Stranger Registered: 10/23/16 Posts: 146 Last seen: 7 years, 2 months |
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Oh man, the plot is thickening quite a bit, and I do like what I'm seeing
![]() Quote: Has nothing to do with it. At all. Zero. Nada. I'm here practicing magnetic attraction and repulsion games that have been going on since the fucking reptiles, all the way through birds, mammals of all sorts (including the head-bangers you posted above) and am very much aware of how pecking order works, or how a wolf pack hierarchy works, how the alpha gets to pick and mate. These are universal, started long before we got down from the trees and will stay with us long after we spread to outer space. What I am seeing you do there is fail to see how bird dances are PRECISELY the same game as banging heads together to see who's left standing. Same exact thing, expressed in a somewhat different way. In no way is one more manly than the other. We are ALL playing a game, a competition, of who can get center stage. If you've got the brawn you can just play that direct, fight one on one and see who's left standing. Since you value brawn yourself, of course you'll consider that one form of competition to be more "fair" than others, as it favors you. But it's really not. It's just what you may like to play. Plenty of other methods available. What the mating game actually runs on is dominant SIGNALS in general, in the head you're trying to impress. I've taken females from guys bigger and more brutish than myself, where arguably I probably would have lost a fight if it came to brawn, but here's the thing, I won those games on being dominant in arenas where the guy didn't even know we were playing. Things like creativity, perception, attention, reading and sending subtle clues, working empathically with the subconscious. Sending accurate signals that the girl could be wow'ed by, but ALL completely under his radar. The guy was RIGHT THERE when I took his woman, right there at the fucking table with him, and where he trained for brawn and financial prowess, I trained for extremely sharp senses, metaphor, poetry, artistic fantastic imaginative storytelling. WE WERE banging heads together all along, just on strength of neurology, complexity, clarity of signal. He was losing every single bang, and not even notice he was doing it. You snooze you lose ![]() Where he spoke of horsepower in the engine of his motor boat (basically, loud signal, impressing through quantity) I spoke of magic, stars, moon and unicorns. And he had 200 hp boat engine, biggest around the table, everybody else had less than half, whereas I have no boat at all, I just have amazing ideas in my head, and 1 unicorn power. To a woman that needs to find magic again, it's not about "how many horses" at all, it's an imagination game. If everyone comes in on horses and I come on a unicorn, that's it, game set and match, attention and heart are mine, as I brought a bazooka to a knife fight ![]() Quote: This kind of stuff is what I pick up on. It speaks to me of a certain kind of neurology, pent up aggression, perhaps a bit of alcohol here and there, perhaps some smoking in your past, whatever it is, I know you've been cutting some corners on what you take in, and in shows in what you express. You can't hide what you have inside, in your neurology. We were being pretty friendly here, communicating about ideas, rather intellectually. How do you just diss a bird's appearance like that, straight up, directly, get aggressive for no reason? Oh man, I see what you're doing, am having quite a few doubts that you yourself see it, what deeper processes are at play here ![]() Quote: This last part, THIS is the real game being played. Who can get the attention. Has little to do with brawn (though it can be that). Has to do with are you fascinating? Are you a joy to look at, are you thriving in that environment? Have you found your niche where you are king, and feel like a king, and doing that magic you're the most attractive there? YOu obviously found it in one place, found one niche and way to do it, then when moved to another context when that strategy didn't work, you didn't find a new one there. Guaranteed you could have beaten that guy at SOMETHING, be it drawing, music, humor, whatever it is, there are SO MANY ways to get attention, to draw a female in. Unless of course you get stuck in one game, at which you're not the best at, there's someone better. If you persist on staying in that game then yes, you feel Beta, and signal that, and of course the female likes the alpha, as he thrives, completely relaxed, it's his yard ![]() It's all on you, whether you accept what the crew says is OK to use. For instance if all the kids on the street call you a fag for drawing or juggling or playing violin, do you still do it? Do you tell everybody to go fuck themselves as you trust your own heart, or do you give in and accept the pressure from outside? Most others will try to restrict the game to methods they know and are good at. But the mating game is made in such a way that you can ALWAYS find attentional back doors if you look for them. So in any case, what I am getting is that you have a very strict, rigid definition of what "manly" is to you, direct confrontation and some sort of physical competition, whereas in fact I see the mating game as a matter of timing, distance, signal, context, signal-to-noise ratio, interference and so on. Look at Sun Tzu's The Art of War, you will see he speaks a ton about what to do and how to play it, if you're outgunned. Head to head combat is a good strategy sometimes, but woe on the unimaginative fool who has no rich choice of alternative methods, for when that isn't an option. Quote: We fight all the time dude, we fight for attention, memory and so on. From advertising to mate selection, all we do is try to impress signals on this reality and generally the strongest most relevant-to-context signal resonates and wins. We also fight physically, a few days ago I saw some teenagers in a group, one of them was their Alpha, the guy that knew martial arts and showed it off to all the others. I could see him, I felt we'd probably do something, and I assumed it'l bee some conversation, me busting their balls a little bit. I meditated (Evening, park) then heard some nice group of females. I started doing my thing (juggling LED balls) minding my own business, playing the distances with the group of females, and as is so common for attentionally outmatched males, they came to distract and interrupt, where they couldn't outdo. I just avoided (turned back, gave no verbal answer) and made a fool of one of them by just keeping distance giving no eye contact. In less than a minute he was begging for some form of validation, whereas I just laughed at him, for everyone there to hear. Then the martial arts guy showed up, I gave him the same treatment. He verbally suggested that they'll touch my stuff (backpack, jacked, placed down so I can juggle) to which I just made an agressive step towards them, and they both jumped back. I was at all times several chess moves ahead of them, so to speak, as the distance game is what I do, in most situations. Martial arts dude stepped towards me, I stepped back, he showed off a few moves in the air, and at the proper time I just pushed him. One shove. He stumbled, stepped weird, fucked up his ankle, then started whining and bitching. All evening he showed off roundhouse kicks, how to kick high to the head, how to hold up a guard, showing off all manner of stuff (and receiving the validation of his mates for it) and then he picked a distance game with an actual bird, got his ass very swiftly handed to him. That to me is the real game, and I'm not alone here. Observe: That last part, I respect both dudes, one as an excellent showman, very artistic and poetic, the other as an excellent fighter, great timing and focus. I think the shoman didn't get the point, he lost fight as he was unaware of the context, rules, and most importantly didn't fully read the state and potential of the fighter guy. Lost fight as he was in his own head, having misread the actual threat level before him. Oh well, that's how we learn ![]() I play many games dude, as do we all. I play reptile, bird and wolf a lot. What you speak of, direct confrontation, that's reptile / wolf game. It's just that if I meet another who can do that better than me, I have plenty of bird moves still to play, and they're generally quite hard to counter in this society, where most humans' bird game is fucked, rudimentary, under-trained, they just don't get it
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Humble Student Registered: 11/30/11 Posts: 26,088 Loc: Deep in the syst |
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Wow man, you're a sharp motherfucker. Too bad the vast majority of people our in society don't show the kind of self-awareness you do, else I wouldn't feel the need to bail the fuck out of it and go and live alone (well, my cousin & I) and learn to live in harmony with nature, sacrificing the wealth of human interaction I can find here.
I feel such a strong pull there - life has made it abundantly clear to me that I am not supposed to settle or remain where I currently am, and as far as I can gather by 'keeping my ear to the ground' I feel that the location I'm heading is the right one. My only misgiving is that I'm gonna have to sacrifice my favourite thing in the world thus far - deep connection with many humans, at many different times throughout my day. I hope you stick around the community for a long time to come man, I feel very strongly I will, so it would be interesting comparing notes, cause I figure we seek the same thing: connection. I'm a bit of a dinosaur/steamroller compared your advanced and subtle understanding of bringing it about, but where I do I am consistently amazed by the results. Thing is, right now my calling is all about connection with self, and it's a fucking challenging path. Certainly not something that is promoted in the slightest in the current cultural model. Not for the feint hearted either. But in the steps I have so far taken down that path, I have found that as connection with self grows deeper, the connection with all others, with nature, with 'god' grows exponentially. A semi-monastic kinda life is what I'm heading out for, but as it approaches closer and closer to the time when I go and commit myself to it, that little voice that hides in us all pops up and nags me - the voice of fear. Not that that's gonna stop me, I'm pretty good at handling that particular voice. I think it just leaves some lingering doubt in its wake - 'how could you possibly get better at connecting with humans by taking yourself off to live far away from humans?' You know what I mean? When your gut says one thing, in your heart you know it to be true, even if in your heart you also know it will be painful, but then your mind tries to argue the opposite... How many years have you been on the path of learning you describe above? -------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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Registered: 09/27/16 Posts: 315 |
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I think this whole bird game thing is extremely repulsive
And FYI so far this guy has failed MISERABLY with me, I'm only talking to him because I am DETERMINED to get him into a beta position to me to teach him a lesson Any man who pulls that alpha shit (especially if he's trying to dominate me) just puts me in destroy mode MOD EDIT: No flaming please. Edited by Jokeshopbeard (11/01/16 04:37 PM)
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Stranger Registered: 10/23/16 Posts: 146 Last seen: 7 years, 2 months |
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Quote: ![]() I've "failed" with you? ![]() Seems to me I'm at the 100% center of your attention in that post, bitch about me all you want, but you showed up here to make a post talking about me me me. If some other dude on here was more interesting to you right now, you'd be talking about him him him ![]() Am glad you showed, you're literally proving my point for me, so perfect timing ![]() Quote: Bring it ![]() Anyway I'm not even interested in you when you're like this, I like girls who are more subtle and perceptive. You keep assuming I'm here to dominate some stuff, when I told you repeatedly I'm just here to play, spread good vibes ![]() Quote: Well you've sworn off men altogether and switching to ghosts instead, of course you'd say that, that's your male-related issues talking, has nothing to do with me. Anyway no need to be so impatient, I know you missed me, I'll get to your thread as soon as I'm done talking to my mate Jokeshopbeard here, please wait your turn
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Stranger Registered: 10/23/16 Posts: 146 Last seen: 7 years, 2 months |
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Quote: Many thanks mate, very much appreciated. People who stop to notice are few and far between ![]() Quote: Dude I put in quite some work to get to the self-awareness thing, it took mucho tripping, and just following what the shroom and Aya said. They said go learn to meditate (as in, meditation retreat, 10 hours a day for 10 days, and no talking touching looking anybody in the eye for that time, did two of those so far) and from that point meditation and deep self-observation "has you", as in, once you get to some Siddhis, weird abilities that others don't have, then it just builds on itself. My read on your current situation is that you're on PRECISELY that same path, that you now feel the noise of the urban dwellers is getting to you, interfering, can't feel your feelings hear your thoughts, and so you need a proper exit from it. I totally encourage you to do that, for whatever period you feel is good for you, I mean just as you feel like doing this break from civilization now, in the same way you will one day feel a strong unmistakable pull to return, to then bring back into the tribe the realizations you've gathered in the wild. To show others how there's ways to live and things to consider beyond their basic immediate perception. I'm on this same journey, and I think it's THE journey for any seeker, spend some time in the tribe, some in the wild, bringing insights and energies from one place to another. I've learned to just go with the flow, just show up where I feel like showing, and as you can see this meeting here for instance, was totally meant to happen, as you were needing this specific type of info, to know that yes, that wilderness retreat isn't for nothing, it's on a larger path and it is leading someplace awesome. Quote: I hope so too, just keep in mind I have a way of getting kicked out of places Can't tell you how many Facebook groups and interactions and forums I've been kicked out of, because some people get crazy if you just speak direct to them, not conforming to the cultural indoctrination, politeness and sugar coating, validating every kind of woe-is-me victim story they've got going on. Quote: Just go out there, keep far away from cigs and alcohol, trip if you can, observe yourself as you go through those wilderness activities. If you don't have some practice with breathing eyes closed for longer periods of time, I highly recommend it. Buddha said this stuff, sit with back to a tree, close eyes and follow your breath, and everything will become clear. I've put in a couple of years of this (under two years now) and it does work. It just widens perception a lot like shrooms do, you take in more, see what others don't, then you get clear connection to intuition and can receive your own personalized techniques from then on. No books or teachers required, unless you intuitively feel drawn to them. The fact that you feel a calling for that place and things lined up for you to go, know that it's what needs to happen in this episode, this is your journey, and when you come back to the city noise you'll come back a lot lighter, stronger, more acute perception about self and others, it's crazy what awaits out there, at the super low price of just showing up to get it. The main thing I can say is trust that inner gut feeling you have, trust it over any expert, doctor, priest, master, peer pressure, anything. That thing in your chest / solar plexus always calls you true, to whatever places or people you need to have in your story, for the most fun awesome things to happen. Just keep asking yourself, where's the awesome today? What's the most fun stuff to do here? Just stick with the fun and fascination all the time, it will teach you everything you need to know, and with the perfect timing of when to do it. Quote: Look on the flip side, once you've felt the calling it's impossible to ignore it, you're miserable every day that you do. Really look at this. Can you really take the blue pill and go back to "business as usual" as I'm sure many city dwellers do? From what I read in your posts you've seen beyond the fish tank, you've had your glimpses, and now it's like an itch you have to scratch, what else is out there, what else are you missing, every day that you're engaged in the common stuff everyone else does? Sounds to me like you also know the answer, you're missing A LOT, else you wouldn't go So just see this aspect, that once you've seen the glimpses, it's hard NOT to follow the path, to try and make like it's not there. I see it in myself, I'll start drawing tits and vaginas, before I know it I'm back to EM fields around the head, electric transfers through fingers, figuring out my internal symbols, messages from the Kundalini serpent and so on. Once you've seen the enlarged perspective, even the vulgar aspects of life will remind you of it. When you for instance say you're a dinosaur, that's reptile talk, inner animal, Kundalini serpent talking. So I know that you're called to what I've been called, which is some form of Kundalini awakening. You may consciously believe in these concepts or not, that's fine, I just know that if you're drawn to the wild like this, there are forces inside you that are ripening and ready to burst out. So there's not much for you to do except observe this amazing process, that as you've recognized culture doesn't speak that much about, and in fact tries to prevent with constant distraction. Quote: Well this is more complex, in the sense that we do live in an informational jungle, a lot of noise and getting noisier each year with more technology, but this is just on the surface of things. The enlightenment game is very robust and pretty much impervious to human attempts at tempering with it or smothering it in advertising or distractions. You can get lost in porn food gambling corporate career for a while, but the moment you cross paths with someone that has transcended this stuff, as soon as you pass through their boosted EM field or make some of that "out there" eye contact, that's it. You're a goner. All the corporate digital stuff fails to satisfy, and so you're now looking to find in yourself what that other being have found inside themselves. So there's this everlasting game of knowing shit from Shinola, as Terence called it, of reconnecting to the true divine versus getting lost in the cheap trivial minutia, smoking drinking gathering material possessions or status in the monkey hierarchy. The technological noise, the techno-jungle, that is simply an updated, next-level version of the normal biological jungle. The task is the same. Find yourself and find the others. Can you learn to do it in the middle of zombified self-distracting consumers? Can you do it online over mere text and pixels? As you can see, very much YES in both cases, as strong signals that come from the Self can be encoded in any medium and still carry over well. That whole bit about Maya, the world of distractions and illusions, that's precisely what goes on here. Bunch of humans that forgot the old ways, and are now lost in an out of control cycle of mining stuff to make plastic toys to make profit in this flimsy currency they have among each other, and for that retarded game they sacrifice connection to self, nature and deep tribal connection to others. But for you personally, that's not of too much relevance. The direct question to you is can you focus? Can you breathe in peace? Can you take your brain from 5th gear to 1st and just chill if and when you want to? That is the real wealth, the kingdom of heaven, from which then the external one can flow. As a species we're coming out of this ignorance, and if you feel drawn away from the city, know you've got some epic adventures of awakening lined up ahead of you. People told me this stuff as well (meditation master on first retreat) and I didn't think much of it, but then I saw them happening, people and fellow seekers showing up and was like at how deep it all goes. ![]() Quote: I know what you mean, and there's a couple of answers here. First, you get better at connecting by going away, precisely in the same way as you get better at working, by making sure you get a good night's sleep. You WILL be way better at doing the work tomorrow, after you go away, rest then approach it with fresh forces and vigor. Second answer and more technical is that in most urban humans, that part of their brain that follows breath and interprets emotions based on breath patterns, that's just untrained, underdeveloped, rudimentary. Kind of like we can all read and write, but if you never take that year to learn it, you're illiterate. What you are doing by retreating, giving yourself place to observe, is taking time and training, growing, parts of your neurology that are dormant and neglected in most people, although they are required for thriving. Quote: Yes so this is the precise process that also goes on in meditation. YOu force the mind to finally be still and analyze, and immediately it begins to bitch and whine and make scenarios. But why do this? What's the point? This can't work. This is useless. Look at Joey and Jimmy, they don't do this, why do you? On and on it goes, attempting to break your practice, to get back into the Maya rat race, chasing for external signals, avoiding the internals ![]() Pay it no mind. You pack your bags, breathe your breaths, do your thing and go there, give it a good couple of months and learn what there is to learn there, and then it'll make perfect sense why that was needed. I can tell you that once you clean your senses in this way, when you do get back to the city, you'll notice others like you (and they'll notice you as well, kind of like trippers sense each other to be tripping, but everyone else has little clue of it) and you'll notice when other mainstream people have this deep longing to get out of it and you'll be able to act as guide for them along the way. Don't get fooled by the shiny technology mate, the actual process here is the same stuff we've been doing for millennia, the journey of self-discovery, the going away from the tribe, finding the deep internal power and treasure, then bringing it back to uplift the others with that knowledge. Magic and primal forces are as strong as ever, it just requires a different set of eyes to see them clearly. If you're going to Australia you'll most definitely see some shit, they have their own methods there of accessing the deeper forces inside. Oh and give the process time to develop, many times you won't notice your own changes right away, but then you go to the city, spend some time with others and only by contrast can you see that oh, they actually have half your attention span and can't see things that are clear as day to you
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Waxing Prophetic Registered: 02/22/13 Posts: 2,514 Loc: The Enterprise Last seen: 3 years, 8 months |
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Quote: paradox, man it comes up time and time again. Being by oneself in order to know how to give to others, sitting in silence in order to know what to say. Losing yourself in order to discover yourself... it's a self-reflective mirror, and we're standing just on the other side of the images it shows.
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Witchakookoo Registered: 09/10/10 Posts: 7,135 |
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Well this thread certainly took a major turn.
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ChemChaplin Registered: 09/24/08 Posts: 7,659 Last seen: 4 years, 14 days |
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Quote: I could not possibly disagree with anything you've written more than I do. I disagree with literally every single word. But I'm cool with it if you are -------------------- A cautious young fellow named Lodge / Had seat belts installed in his Dodge. / When his date was strapped in / He committed a sin / Without even leaving the garage. That's clever, isn't it?-A boy and his dog
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Space Nomad Registered: 06/18/13 Posts: 1,808 Loc: PHX Last seen: 5 years, 3 months |
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Quote: Yeah
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