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Re: Michael Moore- "Election Will Be The Biggest Fuck You Ever Recorded In Human History (Video) [Re: qman]
#23771309 - 10/25/16 08:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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qman said: Well that's the fact, in trying to explain Trump's appeal, he actually made the argument for voting for him. 
of course he did, but you're taking it out of context. You can make an argument supporting all sorts of political stances, it doesn't make them the correct option. It does the valuable job of pointing out the issue isn't black and white, its quite a mess as both candidates are far from desirable, both candidates lie constantly and I highly doubt either will help americans at large. I can understand people's reasons for supporting Trump, but so what? Everyone has reasons, from the guys in ISIS to the libertarians against drivers licenses to the anti-vaxers to neo-nazis to Budhist terrorists etc etc
that's the whole point of reasoned discussion, to determine who's reasons are best. Taking talking points out of context does nothing to serve this conversation, it only muddies the water deeper
(incidentally that's part of the problem with Moore generally, he largely creates liberal propaganda films, selectively leaving out information that contradicts his stance for the sake of snappy, short, easily understood documentaries)
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Re: Michael Moore- "Election Will Be The Biggest Fuck You Ever Recorded In Human History (Video) [Re: qman] 3
#23771312 - 10/25/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You?
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Re: Michael Moore- "Election Will Be The Biggest Fuck You Ever Recorded In Human History (Video) [Re: qman] 1
#23771336 - 10/25/16 08:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Burke Dennings said: Lol, qman is easily duped. Imagine that.
Did Moore say those things or not? How much out of context were those statements?
Those statements were very clear, he ACCIDENTLY made the case for Trump, now who's been duped?
he didn't accidentally make the case. He intentionally explained why people would like Trump, rather than simply labeling them racists, bigots or whatever -strategies that will obviously never convince anyone- he is formulating an argument against Trump that some Trump followers will hopefully understand and maybe listen to (doubtful). In order to do that, he has to first empathize with them, the realities of their situation, and understand their reasoning in order to argue against Trump effectively. It's a pretty simple and traditional strategy
hell, if I was a poor blue collar american in a town of Trump supporters I would more than likely be on board. Context is everything
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Re: Michael Moore- "Election Will Be The Biggest Fuck You Ever Recorded In Human History (Video) [Re: qman] 6
#23771353 - 10/25/16 08:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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now who's been duped?
I don't know, you tell me Mr. "Moore-identifies-with-Trump"-even-though-he-just-released-a-2-hour-long-documentary-about-what-a-piece-of-shit-Trump-is. You found this dumb, edited, no context video, blew your wad thinking that Trump had persuaded a legendarily left lib, and posted it without any thought to examining its validity in an attempt to show how even the staunchest dems are switching teams. Even though that's not what it is at all. Someone made this edited version of Moore speaking to fool alt-right retards, and it looks like theyre lapping it up. You tell me who got duped.
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Re: Michael Moore- "Election Will Be The Biggest Fuck You Ever Recorded In Human History (Video) [Re: Burke Dennings]
#23771355 - 10/25/16 08:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Michael Moore- "Election Will Be The Biggest Fuck You Ever Recorded In Human History (Video) [Re: qman] 1
#23771367 - 10/25/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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qman said: Must listen- Moore speaking the truth. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-25/michael-moore-trumps-election-will-be-biggest-fuck-you-ever-recorded-human-history
And here he is being interviewed about this clip saying trump is a sexist and racist and people should vote for clinton cause she's a woman and will bring feminist vibes into the white house. 
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Re: Michael Moore- "Election Will Be The Biggest Fuck You Ever Recorded In Human History (Video) [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
#23771376 - 10/25/16 08:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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qman said: Must listen- Moore speaking the truth. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-25/michael-moore-trumps-election-will-be-biggest-fuck-you-ever-recorded-human-history
And here he is being interviewed about this clip saying trump is a sexist and racist and people should vote for clinton cause she's a woman and will bring feminist vibes into the white house. 
And if that isn't the dumbest fucking reason to vote for her,
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Re: Michael Moore- "Election Will Be The Biggest Fuck You Ever Recorded In Human History (Video) [Re: Burke Dennings]
#23771383 - 10/25/16 08:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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now who's been duped?
I don't know, you tell me Mr. "Moore-identifies-with-Trump"-even-though-he-just-released-a-2-hour-long-documentary-about-what-a-piece-of-shit-Trump-is. You found this dumb, edited, no context video, blew your wad thinking that Trump had persuaded a legendarily left lib, and posted it without any thought to examining its validity in an attempt to show how even the staunchest dems are switching teams. Even though that's not what it is at all. Someone made this edited version of Moore speaking to fool alt-right retards, and it looks like theyre lapping it up. You tell me who got duped.
"no context video"
It's immaterial if the video is an edited bunch of statements, Moore made those statements.
I never claimed Moore was going to vote for Trump, but Moore has been a constant critic of the auto industry and it's failure towards US workers. His statements have been consistent throughout the years on this subject matter. http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/11/20/lkl.michael.moore/index.html?_s=PM:US
You're basically missing the whole point, Moore made the case for Trump unintentionally with his statements.
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Re: Michael Moore- "Election Will Be The Biggest Fuck You Ever Recorded In Human History (Video) [Re: qman]
#23771402 - 10/25/16 08:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was foretold of this reaction from the lefties....
Fucking hilarious how predictable they are
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Re: Michael Moore- "Election Will Be The Biggest Fuck You Ever Recorded In Human History (Video) [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
#23771415 - 10/25/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: I was foretold of this reaction from the lefties....
Fucking hilarious how predictable they are 
If you wasted a few hours watching his brain dead movies, you'd be pissed off as well.
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Re: Michael Moore- "Election Will Be The Biggest Fuck You Ever Recorded In Human History (Video) [Re: qman] 1
#23771423 - 10/25/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sounds nice but it was taken out of context. I don't get this line of reasoning that Trump is gonna get in and be for the people. If you look at his history it's clear he has little care for anyone but number one.
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Re: Michael Moore- "Election Will Be The Biggest Fuck You Ever Recorded In Human History (Video) [Re: qman]
#23771430 - 10/25/16 08:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: I was foretold of this reaction from the lefties....
Fucking hilarious how predictable they are 
If you wasted a few hours watching his brain dead movies, you'd be pissed off as well. 
I've boycotted this retard since his "columbine" days
And just for fun
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Re: Michael Moore- "Election Will Be The Biggest Fuck You Ever Recorded In Human History (Video) [Re: Love_spirit]
#23771439 - 10/25/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Love_spirit said: Sounds nice but it was taken out of context. I don't get this line of reasoning that Trump is gonna get in and be for the people. If you look at his history it's clear he has little care for anyone but number one.
You're right, Moore fucked up and told the truth,
Fact is, Trump stood up to Ford when they were gonna ship jobs to Mexico, TRUMP stopped them, not hilllary and Not Obama, TRUMP did
Trump stood up for American jobs, something Hillary will not do
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Re: Michael Moore- "Election Will Be The Biggest Fuck You Ever Recorded In Human History (Video) [Re: Love_spirit]
#23771444 - 10/25/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Love_spirit said: Sounds nice but it was taken out of context. I don't get this line of reasoning that Trump is gonna get in and be for the people. If you look at his history it's clear he has little care for anyone but number one.
"taken out of context"
Specific example? His statements were clear, nobody pieced his words together.
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Re: Michael Moore- "Election Will Be The Biggest Fuck You Ever Recorded In Human History (Video) [Re: qman]
#23771459 - 10/25/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It seemed rather odd that he'd side with trump. 3 hours of dabbing reclaim made it seem possible to me.
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Re: Michael Moore- "Election Will Be The Biggest Fuck You Ever Recorded In Human History (Video) [Re: Mescalean]
#23771488 - 10/25/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mescalean said: It seemed rather odd that he'd side with trump. 3 hours of dabbing reclaim made it seem possible to me.
Yes, some thought it was fake, apparently it's not. Starts around 5 minutes.
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Re: Michael Moore- "Election Will Be The Biggest Fuck You Ever Recorded In Human History (Video) [Re: Mescalean]
#23771492 - 10/25/16 09:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mescalean said: It seemed rather odd that he'd side with trump. 3 hours of dabbing reclaim made it seem possible to me.
He's not siding with Trump, he's explaining why people support Trump, and in doing so, actually made a helluva good case for supporting Trump
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#23771499 - 10/25/16 09:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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