|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Officially joining an MMA Gym today
#23769859 - 10/25/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|

Today at 5:30 I am going to my first class at a local MMA gym. Going to do 2.5 hours of training there in boxing and no Gi Jujitsu,
My background is in Judo but I have been working on all aspects of MMA , training about 3 hours a day.
I am fully recovered from my recent injury and will be training as many days a week as possible, in Wrestling, boxing, muay thai, Gi and no Gi Jujitsu.
I have made the decision to dedicate the next ten years of my life to this and actually joining a class again is the start of my real journey.
Although I have been training hard every day solo training is not the same as fighting in a gym against other people.
I love all aspects of unarmed fighting and am completely obsessed with this. I watch hours of UFC a day to refine my knowledge and understanding of the game, and train while I watch.
Anyways, going to keep a journal of my experiences here. Probably going to get beat up pretty good and I love that feeling.
Got to rest now so I have enough energy for the classes tonight. Going to go high as balls on Cannabutter, as grappling and flower go together perfectly.
I am literally over joyed about this. 
Posting some "before" / progress pics, as I plan to get much more muscular soon and want to see the comparison.
Anyone else doing martial arts?
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
Edited by Moonshoe (10/25/16 12:33 PM)
|
PreparationH
apply daily

Registered: 03/28/05
Posts: 18,306
Loc: Amsterdam
Last seen: 7 hours, 39 minutes
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Moonshoe]
#23769900 - 10/25/16 12:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
My tip to people I work with in the MMA field is find a GOOD strength coach, do not listen to your mma coach on strength training many of them are lagging far behind and still having guys run around with dumbells and etc. I have only worked with 2 MMA fighters and both were surprisingly weak and we got them much stronger. If you are serious about it as much as you sound then a good strength coach that will teach you how to do the lifts, proper programming, etc is very worth the time and money.
|
Herbologist
Grrratata


Registered: 05/09/10
Posts: 7,471
Loc: Casa Bonita
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: PreparationH]
#23769913 - 10/25/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Good luck. I remember taking Muay Thai Kick Boxing at an MMA facility and after that class it was straight to BJJ.
I puked my first 3 kick boxing classes cause for one I was out of shape and two it was pretty intense/exhausting. I learned some shit though.
-------------------- Shroomery Law: Don't piss off the leftist mods & their friends!
|
fuzzipeach
Stranger Danger


Registered: 12/13/15
Posts: 176
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Moonshoe]
#23769927 - 10/25/16 12:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Thats awesome you have something youre so interested in/passionate about. How the hell are you able to commit yourself to something for that long and im assuming consistently(training 3hrs a day) how do you not lose interest after a couple months??
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: fuzzipeach]
#23770044 - 10/25/16 01:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Thanks for the tip re: strength training.
About how I stay motivated, its easy- I feel most alive and most happy when I work out. Exercise is how I deal with stress and depression. It helps me alleviate anxiety, and gives me euphoric feelings.
Focusing on martial arts helps me block out all the things I stress about. And I just love it. Its incredibly fun.
I had to put my Judo on hold when I was working on my university degrees but now that I am done school all those hours I spent researching and writing papers can be refocused on martial arts.
But basically its easy because its fun. First thing every morning my body is just primed and read. I literally crave the feeling I get from it like a drug.
I have become an exercise addict, so its not difficult for me to keep up, it would be difficult not to.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
sunshine
Sin18DwireWuTang


Registered: 04/03/04
Posts: 43,592
Loc: higher plane of sex
Last seen: 5 years, 18 hours
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Moonshoe]
#23770137 - 10/25/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Make sure you train to totally do your opponents.
-------------------- One Love True Indeed. Have Good Trips. Mike/sunshine's mom.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: sunshine] 1
#23770343 - 10/25/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
You Mean have sex with them ?
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
moonrockmushy
High on Spite



Registered: 07/01/05
Posts: 19,067
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Moonshoe]
#23770372 - 10/25/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
You know there's only one way to really prove your dominance to another man moonshoe
|
sunshine
Sin18DwireWuTang


Registered: 04/03/04
Posts: 43,592
Loc: higher plane of sex
Last seen: 5 years, 18 hours
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23770411 - 10/25/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
It looks like in MMA that's what you want to do: do them hardcore so the ref stops it.
-------------------- One Love True Indeed. Have Good Trips. Mike/sunshine's mom.
|
moonrockmushy
High on Spite



Registered: 07/01/05
Posts: 19,067
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: sunshine] 1
#23770467 - 10/25/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Hey they'll be no thrusting and now gyrating, lets make this a good clean fight. Now touch gloves and kiss.
|
HamHead
Hard Ass Motherfucker



Registered: 03/17/15
Posts: 6,107
Loc: Galactic sector ZZ9 Plura...
Last seen: 2 years, 8 months
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: moonrockmushy] 2
#23771050 - 10/25/16 06:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
-------------------- The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited, but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders https://www.icandecide.org/
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: HamHead]
#23771081 - 10/25/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Woot! Just finished my first no-Gi jujitsu class! That was a fucking blast! I tore through the class and submitted everyone until I got to the teacher, and then he put me in my place and submitted me like a dozen times. That was fucking awesome!
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
moonrockmushy
High on Spite



Registered: 07/01/05
Posts: 19,067
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Moonshoe]
#23771110 - 10/25/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
thats hot
|
daz01
Learning


Registered: 09/30/10
Posts: 4,652
Loc: Scotland
Last seen: 12 hours, 1 minute
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: moonrockmushy]
#23771408 - 10/25/16 08:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
new emote?
MMA is awesome. I loved muay thai, boxing, karate and BJJ for a number of years. I lost absolute all interest during the period of my mental illness and drug addiction. Now I am the healthiest I have ever been and also free from the shackles of addiction, I am going to get back to it ASAP. I live in a small town now so there's no actual MMA gyms, just boxing gyms, shotokan and kyokushin and a bunch of normal guys at a gym do MMA together (no official teacher tho) but the damn PAWS sleep disturbances is the only thing holding me back. I forced myself to up stay 24 hours 2 days ago, went to bed at 6pm, got up 2am. Kept awake yesterday till 8pm, got up at 4am.... TODAY.... I went to bed at 9pm and I was still lying in bed at 3am wide awake. On the computer now, hitting the 24 hour mark and I only feel slightly tired Making a big nutritous meal because the insomnia maybe worsened by lack of calories, etc 
Right now, I am doing 3 days, 1 day off, 3 days on. HIIT, plyometrics, calisthenics, skipping rope, etc. Feels so great. Exxercise is 100% neccasry in fully recovering from drug addictions and finding that "reason to live" (pretty much how Moonshoe explains it, exercise is THE worlds best anti depressant and mood booster) You do 30 minutes of HIIT, maybe some other stuff thrown in.... you feel like on the top of the world for half of the day.
edited this in:
Exercise (consistently) comes with a determination to improve yourself. You find exercise that YOU.... YOU... love doing and have fun doing it. Then, it awakens your mind even further with "I will now ONLY consume highly nutritious food that will aid my progress in the exercises. I will feed it food that benefits, no junk food, no shit, no poison". That's the basis of how I feel it happens, but it also goes much deeper than that, into every aspect of your life.
Also I feel nowadays its unfortunate MMA is seen as a "pure" fighting sports (i.e. the guys who go cause it'll "make them tough") when it is much, much more than it. It is an art. It is about perfecting yourself in every aspect. It is a meditation. I find it very therapeutic to visualize and critique myself on every body movement I do
Yeah sorry guys, not the best written post from me. I've been up for 24 hours
Edited by daz01 (10/25/16 09:06 PM)
|
daz01
Learning


Registered: 09/30/10
Posts: 4,652
Loc: Scotland
Last seen: 12 hours, 1 minute
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: daz01]
#23771458 - 10/25/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Oh and good on you Moon as well. We can take part in this journey together
-------------------- Pain is temporary. It may last for a minute or an hour or a day or even a year but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it will last forever.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: daz01]
#23771519 - 10/25/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|

I am so sore all over. I love this feeling. I remember I felt this way after every judo class.
I was trained at a gym where we were all training to compete and the teacher made us go hard, so I think maybe I was a bit too intense today.
Oh well, live and learn.
What a blast! I just have to be so careful not to get injured.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
daz01
Learning


Registered: 09/30/10
Posts: 4,652
Loc: Scotland
Last seen: 12 hours, 1 minute
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Moonshoe]
#23771563 - 10/25/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I am sure you're nailing down your nutrition but I like hearing other peoples opinions/preference so what you consuming daily?
Gotta be careful as well. It's always awesome to go "FUCK YES. I WILL TRAIN THE HARDEST AND STRONGEST I CAN. NOTHING CAN STOP ME" but be realistic and try to limit your itself. Going over the top, especially when a beginner, is going to lead to over training and injuries, both combined which may keep you sedentary for longer than wanted. Fuck ye, push as hard as you can until you nearly vomit or your muscles can't function without a small break but.... do not attempt to do what the experienced and veterans are doing. This is not an ego contest.

I remember my old boxing coach talks. He'd give a word of warning to every new person in his old but intimidating voice "This is not a ego competition. This is a place come to learn. We spar, you fight but not hit with the intent to damage others".
-------------------- Pain is temporary. It may last for a minute or an hour or a day or even a year but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it will last forever.
Edited by daz01 (10/25/16 09:35 PM)
|
Mescalean
Burke is love, burke is life.


Registered: 01/18/12
Posts: 6,755
Last seen: 6 years, 10 months
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Moonshoe]
#23771583 - 10/25/16 09:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
PreparationH said: My tip to people I work with in the MMA field is find a GOOD strength coach, do not listen to your mma coach on strength training many of them are lagging far behind and still having guys run around with dumbells and etc. I have only worked with 2 MMA fighters and both were surprisingly weak and we got them much stronger. If you are serious about it as much as you sound then a good strength coach that will teach you how to do the lifts, proper programming, etc is very worth the time and money.
Agreed, while size may not matter in a fight sometimes. A lot of the times strength/power output is a factor. A good example is a guy I know whos 128 lbs, can easily keep up with me in the weight room if not lagging behind 10-15 lbs. Dude is strong as fucking apeshit for his size. Violent as all fuck to boot. Personally would take extreme caution before even thinking of fucking with him. Someone who knows how to fight and can execute powerful strikes is deadlier than any technique fanboy. Both are needed.
I also see you post a lot about supplements OP so I'm sure you've got that down already.
Quote:
Moonshoe said: Woot! Just finished my first no-Gi jujitsu class! That was a fucking blast! I tore through the class and submitted everyone until I got to the teacher, and then he put me in my place and submitted me like a dozen times. That was fucking awesome!
That's awesome dude, so whats the difference between, this form and Brazilian?
-------------------- FREE BURKE
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Mescalean]
#23772514 - 10/26/16 07:51 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Man, I know that joining this mma gym was the best choice I ever made, because I am so happy and euphoric.
I was so jacked up on adrenaline I barely slept last night even though I was physically exhausted and sore but I woke up feeling happy anyways.
This is my favorite thing in the world. Fighting is the best stress relief in the world, along with sex.
I wasn't sure how well my Judo skills would work in Jujitsu class. Turns out very well. They didn't know how to deal with some of my Judo skills and I was dominant in most matches. I choked out three people and put one in an armbar. I even got a rear naked choke. One more advanced student submitted me like four times but then I submitted him.
The teacher submitted me like 8 times , and usually it took him like 10 seconds. That's how it works, the new guy from another gym and style comes and starts pinning and submitting the students, the teacher has to kick his ass and put him in his place to protect the honor of the gym and the style.
I am happy that my Judo skills means I am not at all starting at square one. I am already good enough to beat many , and now I can learn techniques we don't do in Judo like ankle locks.
Re: whoever asked, this gym teaches Jujitsu, probably Brazilian.
Judo is a Japanese style but they overlap, but Judo is more of a sport so more dangerous techniques like small joint manipulation or leg locks are not allowed.
But the Jujitsu guys couldn't handle my explosive takedown and with all of the guys except the teacher I was able to blast right past their guards into a dominant top pin position where I could work for the choke.
Also some pin techniques they aren't familiar with .
I accidentally flipped a guy into the wall trying to get him off me because he was close to choking me out. He got mad at me and I apologized but still felt embarrassed and bad.
Other than that it was unbelievably fun and satisfying and I can't wait to go again. I hate that I can't go today or tomorrow but I am doing a wrestling classes on Friday which will be awesome.
I am going to be alternating Jujitsu, wrestling, Muay Thai and boxing , and also doing weight lifting and yoga .
The truth is I am extremely strong and can bully and overpower most opponents even without great technique. Plus my height and long legs are a big advantage.
I am so grateful for the crazy hardcore intense passionate Egyptian Olympian who was my Judo teacher. She instilled a fire and heart into me and built up my strength. She forced me to compete, and gave me a solid base in takedowns, takedown defence and grappling, which is a huge chunk of what you need for mma.
The missing piece is striking. Excited for my beginner Muay Thai class.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
Edited by Moonshoe (10/26/16 08:01 AM)
|
Mr.PhilCybin
Master Baiter


Registered: 06/13/11
Posts: 11,642
Loc: Gnarnia
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Moonshoe]
#23772897 - 10/26/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
post more abs bro
-------------------- I'm stupid, Falcon91Wolvrn03 is smart. I'm ugly, Falcon91Wolvrn03 is beautiful. I'm a loser, Falcon91Wolvrn03 is a winner. Someday, I hope to be like Falcon91Wolvrn03 but secretly know I never will.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#23772913 - 10/26/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Mr.PhilCybin said: post more abs bro
the photos In the OP are a little outdated. I'm more ripped now since I stepped up my MMA training.
For now here are some more older ones


--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
Edited by Moonshoe (10/26/16 10:37 AM)
|
Mr.PhilCybin
Master Baiter


Registered: 06/13/11
Posts: 11,642
Loc: Gnarnia
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Moonshoe] 3
#23772936 - 10/26/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
-------------------- I'm stupid, Falcon91Wolvrn03 is smart. I'm ugly, Falcon91Wolvrn03 is beautiful. I'm a loser, Falcon91Wolvrn03 is a winner. Someday, I hope to be like Falcon91Wolvrn03 but secretly know I never will.
|
Mr.PhilCybin
Master Baiter


Registered: 06/13/11
Posts: 11,642
Loc: Gnarnia
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Mr.PhilCybin] 3
#23772938 - 10/26/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
it looks like you have reverse pecs.
like your chest goes in.
don't skip the bench brah
-------------------- I'm stupid, Falcon91Wolvrn03 is smart. I'm ugly, Falcon91Wolvrn03 is beautiful. I'm a loser, Falcon91Wolvrn03 is a winner. Someday, I hope to be like Falcon91Wolvrn03 but secretly know I never will.
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#23772966 - 10/26/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Moderate pecs are relatively standard for martial artists, you have to do a lot of cardio and endurance training, throw a lot of punches etc., that's going to limit your overall bulk
Guys I've known or met in the military training for combat readiness rarely have large pecs, a few long-term vets come to mind, people without weaknesses
Moonshoe has an ideal physique to my eyes, worrying at that stage would be body dysmorphia
|
daz01
Learning


Registered: 09/30/10
Posts: 4,652
Loc: Scotland
Last seen: 12 hours, 1 minute
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#23773035 - 10/26/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Mr.PhilCybin said: it looks like you have reverse pecs.
like your chest goes in.
don't skip the bench brah
Martial artists have little interest in size or appearance, it's all about functionally and survival. I don't even know of many who even bench, it's always geared towards explosiveness, etc.
-------------------- Pain is temporary. It may last for a minute or an hour or a day or even a year but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it will last forever.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Repertoire89] 1
#23773072 - 10/26/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Thanks brother 
I do have body dysmorphia and often feel I look skinny even though everyone says I am jacked. Likewise often don't like my face in photos when others think they look good. But I don't let it bother me I just focus on training.
Yeah currently I do 3 hours of Martial arts training a day, hitting the bag, footwork, takedown drills etc , no weights at all currently . I do yoga as well to prevent injuries .
Definitely plan to incorporate weights again soon.
If you watch UFC you learn that too much muscle is a disadvantage because it requires more oxygen and that makes you gas out sooner.
We do more push-ups, chin ups etc.
But I will definitely incorporate weights because the mma gym I joined also has a weight room
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
Edited by Moonshoe (10/26/16 11:57 AM)
|
Mescalean
Burke is love, burke is life.


Registered: 01/18/12
Posts: 6,755
Last seen: 6 years, 10 months
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Repertoire89]
#23773761 - 10/26/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Repertoire89 said: Moderate pecs are relatively standard for martial artists, you have to do a lot of cardio and endurance training, throw a lot of punches etc., that's going to limit your overall bulk
Guys I've known or met in the military training for combat readiness rarely have large pecs, a few long-term vets come to mind, people without weaknesses
Moonshoe has an ideal physique to my eyes, worrying at that stage would be body dysmorphia
I will vouch for this, recently started doing pushups on top of my normal push routine, chest is getting smaller and more compact.
It all depends on build too. Moonshoes height comes into play. If hes 6 foot 1' at that build, he is far from a "small guy" And actually at an ideal fighting size if thats the case, if not able to add a tiny bit extra.
Huge difference between hypertrophy training and STRENGTH TRAINING. Strength training MR P. Hypertrophy is so you can flex in the mirror like a little girl and try and look pretty, strength is what you do so you only need to throw one punch.
Moonshoe do you do powercleans at all?
-------------------- FREE BURKE
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Mescalean]
#23773793 - 10/26/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I am 6"3. I do deadlift, squat , bench, chin ups and bicep curl when I hit the gym.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Mr.PhilCybin
Master Baiter


Registered: 06/13/11
Posts: 11,642
Loc: Gnarnia
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Moonshoe]
#23773875 - 10/26/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
guys that's all great and all,
but I'm in way better shape
-------------------- I'm stupid, Falcon91Wolvrn03 is smart. I'm ugly, Falcon91Wolvrn03 is beautiful. I'm a loser, Falcon91Wolvrn03 is a winner. Someday, I hope to be like Falcon91Wolvrn03 but secretly know I never will.
|
larry.fisherman
shoulda died already


Registered: 11/03/12
Posts: 36,294
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
#23773884 - 10/26/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
My muscles produce orgasms in attractive females. I am also very good at beating up people but I do not like beating people up. I am too good at it. I am black belt in all chinese forms of punching guys.
|
sunshine
Sin18DwireWuTang


Registered: 04/03/04
Posts: 43,592
Loc: higher plane of sex
Last seen: 5 years, 18 hours
|
|
I like MMA when you see wild shit.
-------------------- One Love True Indeed. Have Good Trips. Mike/sunshine's mom.
|
Mescalean
Burke is love, burke is life.


Registered: 01/18/12
Posts: 6,755
Last seen: 6 years, 10 months
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Moonshoe]
#23774054 - 10/26/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Mr.PhilCybin said: guys that's all great and all,
but I'm in way better shape
So You'd put up higher numbers and have better endurance? BRB will go peep the gym thread to see if you've posted numbers
Quote:
Moonshoe said: I am 6"3. I do deadlift, squat , bench, chin ups and bicep curl when I hit the gym.
Because at 6'3" that's far from a bad frame.
-------------------- FREE BURKE
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Mescalean]
#23774180 - 10/26/16 06:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Thank you very much
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Mescalean
Burke is love, burke is life.


Registered: 01/18/12
Posts: 6,755
Last seen: 6 years, 10 months
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Moonshoe]
#23774357 - 10/26/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
No problem, my current goal is to be lb for lb as strong as possible, from 235 with a 4 pack now at 225-220 starting to lean out more at 6'1". My goal is to hit my PR of 2 45's strapped to my waist for dips and a 45 strapped to my waist for chin ups. Want to get to the 70lb for kettle bell swings too but still stuck at the 60 range
-------------------- FREE BURKE
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Mescalean]
#23774389 - 10/26/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Right on man good job!
I am 6"3 and only 180. I struggle enormously to gain weight because I just don't have an appetite to match how much I exercise.
Trying to increase calories, protein and fats as much as possible.
The most I ever weighed was 190 and I have never been able to get back there.
180 seems to be my natural fighting weight.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Mescalean
Burke is love, burke is life.


Registered: 01/18/12
Posts: 6,755
Last seen: 6 years, 10 months
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Moonshoe]
#23774413 - 10/26/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
This is kind of what I'm figuring out too. I want to reach my best weight, like the one my body functions best at agility and power wise which I'm going to assume is between 205-215. Will never get the 8pack but I can live with it. I use to be the same way when I was younger, 18 i had to force pizza and tons of other high calorie foods down my throat, now at 25 i can't eat burgers every day. Which i reaaaalllly want to try a ketogenic diet. was reading a book about blood types and if my assumption about mine is right based of my mother, my body needs high protein and fat content. Yay rotisserie chicken and avocado lol
-------------------- FREE BURKE
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Mescalean]
#23774707 - 10/26/16 08:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I'm fucking fat right now, Masked called it when I was putting on a bunch of weight, a lot of it was muscle but there's a good 15'lbs of fat I need to burn (at 20% body fat, never had this much fat in my life)
Fucking disgusting, got to turn that around Live and learn
|
PatrickKn


Registered: 07/10/11
Posts: 20,564
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Repertoire89]
#23774733 - 10/26/16 08:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Me too. 
I quit smoking for real for real about 2 - 2.5 months ago and I've gained about 15 pounds since. I originally thought people gained weight after quitting because they replaced smoking with eating. Turns out your metabolism slows down (or goes back to a natural state), the major cause of weight gain.
I smoked about 10 years - since I was 16, and I smoked constantly throughout the day. I used a vape the last two years, but I used it in between cigarettes for the most part.
Anyway, despite running 6 days out of the week, I've still been putting on pounds. I started going to the gym in the evening to do an hour on the eliptical machine a couple days ago though. I use the eliptical because if I ran anymore than I do I'd risk injury and need something no impact.
Honestly, it's about time for me to get into weightlifting, otherwise I don't think I'll be able to reverse it. I never lift weights. Ever.
Edited by PatrickKn (10/26/16 09:11 PM)
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: PatrickKn]
#23774798 - 10/26/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I don't think long distance running is good for weight loss, after about 40min your body starts producing a lot more cortisol. Overall I think shorter HIIT runs are better for either weight loss or building muscle
Right now I'm just focused on building a foundation in calisthenics, not going to add weights until I've peaked out what I can do without weights. Still in hypertrophy range for chin-ups, can only pop out maybe 6 sets of 12 between 2 sessions on a really good day. Definitely still in hypertrophy range with pull-ups, haven't done more than 24 between sets of chin-ups. Range of motion is too narrow, reps are too fast, got a lot of work to do before adding weight. Legs and core are good though.
Everyone's goals are different, I'm also one of those people who prefer not to use weights in general, would rather throw 50'lbs on my back and do a solid set of pull-ups if anything.
|
Jokeshopbeard
Humble Student

Registered: 11/30/11
Posts: 26,088
Loc: Deep in the system
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: PatrickKn]
#23774806 - 10/26/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
PatrickKn said: Anyway, despite running 6 days out of the week, I've still been putting on pounds.
Welcome into crossing into your 30's. If it wasn't for the fact I'm 20x wiser now than I was at my physical peak, I don't think I could see any point in this life whatsoever.
Getting older sucks (physically).
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
|
PatrickKn


Registered: 07/10/11
Posts: 20,564
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#23774896 - 10/26/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Repertoire89 said: I don't think long distance running is good for weight loss, after about 40min your body starts producing a lot more cortisol. Overall I think shorter HIIT runs are better for either weight loss or building muscle
Right now I'm just focused on building a foundation in calisthenics, not going to add weights until I've peaked out what I can do without weights. Still in hypertrophy range for chin-ups, can only pop out maybe 6 sets of 12 between 2 sessions on a really good day. Definitely still in hypertrophy range with pull-ups, haven't done more than 24 between sets of chin-ups. Range of motion is too narrow, reps are too fast, got a lot of work to do before adding weight. Legs and core are good though.
Everyone's goals are different, I'm also one of those people who prefer not to use weights in general, would rather throw 50'lbs on my back and do a solid set of pull-ups if anything.
I didn't know all that, I thought after 40 minutes you ran through your blood sugar and started burning fat? I didn't know that about cortisol raising because of it. Or I guess those two things are one in the same technically? I gotta read up more, I don't know a lot about it. I usually just kind of go with the flow when it comes to working out.
Do it up on the 50lbs and pull ups though. I did that with a 40 lb bag for three weeks, 6 sets of 15 pull ups per day and got a lot stronger in those three weeks. I noticed a huge difference in basic strength, and when I did regular pull-ups after the three weeks I was able to get over 30 in a row (I had started at 9 at the beginning). I also did incline push-ups with the bag on as well at the same time as the pull-ups.
That was several months ago, I'm probably back to square one. I can get around 75 pushups without stopping, but pretty much plateau there. It's about where I peak on just calisthenics. I could hit 90 after those three weeks of pull ups though. But I feel like that peaking only takes a couple months if you go at it every day, then you are just sustaining the strength you've built. Unless you get into some more versatile exercises I guess. I pretty much stick to basic ones.
Quote:
Jokeshopbeard said: Welcome into crossing into your 30's. If it wasn't for the fact I'm 20x wiser now than I was at my physical peak, I don't think I could see any point in this life whatsoever.
Getting older sucks (physically).
I feel like I hit my peak last year. Unfortunately, I didn't start working out at all until around a year earlier. Still lot's of make-up to do I guess just to get in a completely healthy state before I get too old that I can't reverse course.
A couple years ago I could barely go walking a few miles without needing to take a few stops to breath. I was never over weight (in fact I weighed less than I do now), but I couldn't run a mile without stopping to save my life either. From the age of 17-24 I probably ran a total of 3 times, and struggled doing so.
Edited by PatrickKn (10/26/16 09:46 PM)
|
Jokeshopbeard
Humble Student

Registered: 11/30/11
Posts: 26,088
Loc: Deep in the system
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: PatrickKn] 1
#23774932 - 10/26/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Ah, I started training heavily @ 18, and played rugby and was a long distance runner before that. So my physical peak was about 10 years ago at 22.
It doesn't help that as a male, your testosterone production drops year on year from 25 onwards. Along with having spent the first half of my working life doing physically active jobs, compared to the last 9 I've spent at a desk 8 hours a day, it does not help the body stay in tip top condition. I could eat whatever I wanted and never gain weight back then. Now days, I have to fight just to keep my bodyfat levels stable.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
|
Repertoire89
Cat



Registered: 11/15/12
Posts: 21,773
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: PatrickKn] 1
#23774953 - 10/26/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
PatrickKn said:
I didn't know all that, I thought after 40 minutes you ran through your blood sugar and started burning fat? I didn't know that about cortisol raising because of it. Or I guess those two things are one in the same technically? I gotta read up more, I don't know a lot about it. I usually just kind of go with the flow when it comes to working out.
Do it up on the 50lbs and pull ups though. I did that with a 40 lb bag for three weeks, 6 sets of 15 pull ups per day and got a lot stronger in those three weeks. I noticed a huge difference in basic strength, and when I did regular pull-ups after the three weeks I was able to get over 30 in a row (I had started at 9 at the beginning). I also did incline push-ups with the bag on as well at the same time as the pull-ups.
That was several months ago, I'm probably back to square one. I can get around 75 pushups without stopping, but pretty much plateau there. It's about where I peak on just calisthenics. I could hit 90 after those three weeks of pull ups though. But I feel like that peaking only takes a couple months if you go at it every day, then you are just sustaining the strength you've built. Unless you get into some more versatile exercises I guess. I pretty much stick to basic ones.
HIIT runs vs long distance running is definitely worth a read, I'm too ignorant on the subject to really go into more detail though.
That sounds like a pretty solid foundation man, I'm not at a point where weights can be added though. Before adding weight to an exercise I need to perfect the range of motion and time... Basically have to make sure every rep is perfect, all the way to the top and back down so the elbows are almost straight. With the negative motion (lowering) taking 6-8 seconds per rep, fast but clean positive motion (upward) and finishing each set with at least a 15sec static hold. I workout in 2-3 short sessions per day, goal would be 6 sets of 12 chin-ups / pull-ups at that standard between two sessions.
When I can do that it'll be time to add weight, that'll be a few weeks down the line if things go well.
I'm the same way, generally prefer to do variations of maybe 2 dozen workouts, and hone in on the details. Its a particular way of doing things, but its definitely preferable to me than the routines I've gone through with trainers and workout buddies. Very detail orientated.
|
daz01
Learning


Registered: 09/30/10
Posts: 4,652
Loc: Scotland
Last seen: 12 hours, 1 minute
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: PatrickKn]
#23775298 - 10/27/16 12:14 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
PatrickKn said: I didn't know all that, I thought after 40 minutes you ran through your blood sugar and started burning fat? I didn't know that about cortisol raising because of it. Or I guess those two things are one in the same technically? I gotta read up more, I don't know a lot about it. I usually just kind of go with the flow when it comes to working out.
He's right. Excess running, such as marathons actually has more negatives than good, such as decreased testosterone production and increased inflammation. It usually also causes people to consume a ridiculous amount of calories and carbohydrates, which leads to excess insulin and that itself is a causer of diseases. Anaerobic in short bursts.... HIIT..... body weight movements (plyometrics, calisthenics) are all much healthier in every aspect, including mind and body.
But, all that would make sense because the way our species survived. I like to think of our ancestors. They used their bodies to consistently move (walk) across great distances and then run/sprint while they were in danger or had to hunt for food. It really would not make sense for them to jog miles and miles all the time
-------------------- Pain is temporary. It may last for a minute or an hour or a day or even a year but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it will last forever.
|
Mescalean
Burke is love, burke is life.


Registered: 01/18/12
Posts: 6,755
Last seen: 6 years, 10 months
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: daz01]
#23775650 - 10/27/16 05:27 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
All you have to do is look at sprinters vs cross country. The first usually looking pretty cut up/jacked while other is just skinny. Cortisol eats muscle. Been saying this for years. Do long distance every now and again just to stay in shape cardio wise but don't make it a basic part of your routine. Switch it up too. There are some fun exercises you can do besides just sprints. One of my favorite is setting up a couple of ladders or so in a row and doing abilities. Maximum output is pretty easy when you're stubborn and keep trying to beat your previous times.
-------------------- FREE BURKE
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Mescalean]
#23775693 - 10/27/16 06:05 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Just want to say for everyone feeling like aging sucks or wanting to lose weight- hit the weights!
Forget running. Weights is what you need to slow / reverse aging and weights is what you need to lose fat and get the body shape you want.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Jokeshopbeard
Humble Student

Registered: 11/30/11
Posts: 26,088
Loc: Deep in the system
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#23775702 - 10/27/16 06:18 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I've been hitting the weights for 14 years. I can still feel the aging process at work, even in the fact my hair is thinning and I put on fat easier, let alone I can feel that my natural testosterone levels have dropped.
Although I am willing to accept that a big part of it has maybe been accelerated by the fact I've spent the last 9 years doing a desk job, and coping with the stress that comes with it. That's gonna change in the next 6 months to a very physical, low stress job again (can't wait) so I'll report back when I've settled into that way of life. Unfortunately it means I'll have no gym to go to, but I figure I can get by with a bench, a squat rack, and some bars and weights. Maybe a cable machine if I can afford it when I relocate - I like cables.
I certainly don't plan on giving up weight training for as long as I am able in this life. I used to occasionally train with a guy in his 80's who was an old bodybuilder, and train daily with guys in their late 40's, so I know it can be done.
None the less, nothing is ever gonna stop the fact that aging sucks. One thing these guys in their late 40's told me, even though they were fit as fuck, was that your dick doesn't get as hard at that age like it does in your 20's. And the fitter of the two, cut to fuck, who was some MMA/BJJ badass, used to tell me no matter how much he worked on his cardio, he could never match the bedroom stamina of his youth.
So yeah, we should all do cardio & resistance training, but there is no such thing as 'reverse aging'. That's a marketing term to fool people who are scared of getting old and dying.
The best you can do is accept it, and age gracefully.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
|
SunnyD
WiZarD oF LoVe



Registered: 04/29/13
Posts: 25,236
Loc: Planet earth
Last seen: 1 month, 22 days
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Moonshoe]
#23775706 - 10/27/16 06:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Awesome 
Watch out for fungus!(athletes foot, or ring worm
YOulle be groping a bunch of random men and contact sports are notorious for that infectious fungi (it's a bitch to get rid of)
But back on topic Matrial arts are awesome
I have slight training outside of gyms and with friends, I really dig Maui thai (I have super thick and pointy knees and elbows) and for grappling Wrestling and Jui jitsu
Its been a long while since I've trained with some friends, I should get back into it ! That's it!
You convinced me, I'ma break out my punching bag hang it up and get out the old gloves and channel my 21yo rage n power
I need more discipline This young chap is a fan of disipline..
--------------------
        And to everyone who thinks life is just a game, Do you like the part you are playing? This is the time in life I am living! And I face each day with a smile My music Library of Synthesizer goodness
|
SunnyD
WiZarD oF LoVe



Registered: 04/29/13
Posts: 25,236
Loc: Planet earth
Last seen: 1 month, 22 days
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#23775708 - 10/27/16 06:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
True there is no stopping aging
But from what I've seen with older men who take care of there self exercise and work
You can be 65 and look 45 if you don't waste away at a desk job or a retirement of sitting in a dark room wishing you was 20 again (twilight zone reference)
Good diet and exercise is KEY Good genes don't hurt I'm willing to think
--------------------
        And to everyone who thinks life is just a game, Do you like the part you are playing? This is the time in life I am living! And I face each day with a smile My music Library of Synthesizer goodness
|
Jokeshopbeard
Humble Student

Registered: 11/30/11
Posts: 26,088
Loc: Deep in the system
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: SunnyD]
#23775715 - 10/27/16 06:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
SunnyD said: Good diet and exercise is KEY Good genes don't hurt I'm willing to think
Over and above all those things, I think it's your inner state that defines how gracefully you age. Like:
1. Peaceful and stress free head & heart space 2. Good diet and exercise 3. Good genetics are a bonus. It's a lottery that one though. I have a few friends several years older than me who look significantly younger. The immense stress of the last year of my life has visibly aged me.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
|
SunnyD
WiZarD oF LoVe



Registered: 04/29/13
Posts: 25,236
Loc: Planet earth
Last seen: 1 month, 22 days
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#23775722 - 10/27/16 06:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Ya being happy n relaxed really helps imo
When I see stressed out unhappy lame people who are 40 n over they look like Obama or George bush in the terms of premature rapid aging
Wrinkle city
--------------------
        And to everyone who thinks life is just a game, Do you like the part you are playing? This is the time in life I am living! And I face each day with a smile My music Library of Synthesizer goodness
|
Jokeshopbeard
Humble Student

Registered: 11/30/11
Posts: 26,088
Loc: Deep in the system
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: SunnyD]
#23775737 - 10/27/16 06:47 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
LOL, dude that owns my company is worth like 800 mil and has 2 private jets and a private island. The furrows of worry in his brow must be 5mm deep.
I also notice he has none of those smile wrinkles at the corners of his eyes that we get. Whereas by comparison I have no lines on my forehead and deep smile creases at the corners of my eyes.
Complete opposite, and very telling IMO. I've probably accelerated my wrinkles by 10 years cause I've always smoked, but I really like where mine are. I smile and laugh a lot.
I'd rather have no jets and no island and no 800 mil and feel peaceful, free and happy. Fucking dude never seems to smile, like the vast majority of the higher ups in the financial sector.
None the less, I'm pretty sure that environment would eat me up if I stayed in it for the next 30 years. It's really fucking unhealthy, and 1.5 hours of exercise a day aint gonna counteract how bad it is for you, IMO.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#23775761 - 10/27/16 07:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Obviously there is no way to literally reverse aging. What I meant was that the form of exercise that helps the aging process the most is weight training because aging cause muscle loss and bone density loss which weight training directly counteracts.
Running by contrast will Worsen aspects of aging such as joint pain.
Taking testosterone replacement therapy and steroids can help aging enormously as well.
Watching UFC changed my expectations about aging. The majority of top level heavy weight ufc fighters are between 35-40 + years of age.
Dan Henderson recently retired at 46. Many fighters are in late 30s.
It made me realize I can expect to enjoy a very high level of physical activity and athleticism well into my 40s, if I am smart and careful and disciplined in my workouts.
Also those fighters are not allowed to use any testosterone or steroids and they have the most damaging lifestyle imaginable and they still stay in unbelievable shape into their 40s.
For me having no restrictions on supplementation and not needing to get punched in the head and being able to focus on my health rather than competition, and with the rapid development of new anti aging treatments, we can expect remarkably good health late in life if we are lucky and make it a priority.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Jokeshopbeard
Humble Student

Registered: 11/30/11
Posts: 26,088
Loc: Deep in the system
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Moonshoe]
#23775766 - 10/27/16 07:16 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
What do you do for work man? Do you have a very active job?
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
|
daz01
Learning


Registered: 09/30/10
Posts: 4,652
Loc: Scotland
Last seen: 12 hours, 1 minute
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#23776070 - 10/27/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Though age and the biological changes do happen, I think "old" (I don't consider 30 or 40 really old) age can make people extremely pessimistic that it's literally their psychological state holding them back, not physiological or biological.
My uncles are some of the scariest, strongest people I know and they are 50+ and 60+. One from the military and boxing since he was 20. He still trains like a maniac, he makes even the trained seasoned young 20 year olds look like fools, both physically and technique. Other one has his own building/manual labour company. He works 14+ a hours a day, 6am till 8pm easily. Built like a bear and strong as a tank. The dude is fucking scary when he gets angry. During family gatherings, the whole family gets scared and everyone goes quiet when he gets angry. The only other person I've been intimated by and the "what if it got physical/violent" has popped into my head is with the old muay thai instructor, he was 30+ also. Another example is Bear Grylls. Once he realised his training and nutrition was wrong, he says he is now the healthiest and strongest he has ever been in his late 30s compared to his 20s.
Joke, don't doubt your capabilities because of your age! Sure, you feel you might need to train harder (perhaps even try something different) and eat cleaner but I don't think there is anything holding you back from what younger people can do (unless it's for a world record or champion )
-------------------- Pain is temporary. It may last for a minute or an hour or a day or even a year but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it will last forever.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#23776105 - 10/27/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I work in a compassionate/human service profession, that's all I can say.
It is my dream job and the biggest reason is it accommodates my training schedule and I am able to work out for hours during my shift most days.
Aging is a beast but the proper diet , exercise, attitude and supplementation can allow you to be in better shape in your 60s than many people are in their 20s.
Both weight lifting and yoga are a must for healthy aging . Indispensable.
If you make yoga a daily practice you can eliminate the majority of the aches, pains, stiffness and loss of mobility that most people think are inevitable parts of aging , while weight lifting will dramatically reduce the loss of muscle mass and bone density.
A 60 year old who does yoga and weights every day and has a grateful optimistic attitude and eats a super healthy diet and doesn't smoke or have any vices and takes a great supplement regime will be far healthier and more fit than a 22 year old smoker who drinks heavily and sits on the couch all day and has a miserably cynical attitude and drinks pop and eats garbage food.
Age is one factor. Compensate by using all the other factors to your advantage.
Dan Henderson at 46 is going to kick the ass of 99.9% of people in their 20s any day of the week.
And he fought at 46 for the world championship title a few weeks ago and damn near won. Many people think he DID win.
Sorry but if he can win the UFC belt at 46 let's not be using age as an excuse until we are at least older than that.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
Edited by Moonshoe (10/27/16 10:08 AM)
|
Jokeshopbeard
Humble Student

Registered: 11/30/11
Posts: 26,088
Loc: Deep in the system
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: daz01]
#23777279 - 10/27/16 03:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
daz01 said: Joke, don't doubt your capabilities because of your age! Sure, you feel you might need to train harder (perhaps even try something different) and eat cleaner but I don't think there is anything holding you back from what younger people can do (unless it's for a world record or champion ) 
Thanks man. I don't feel it's holding me back at all, for one I'm 100x wiser and more compassionate than I was 10 years ago. I only mentioned it because MS said something about 'reversing the aging process', and whilst I'm sure that if I dedicate enough time and effort I can surpass any goals I hit in my early 20's, I also feel it would be foolish not to take into account that it is a factor, and that there is simply no way to cheat father time.
I'd rather stare truth head on in the face, even if I don't necessarily like it. Fuck, I remember when my hair first started thinning out back years ago - my heart nearly jumped out of my chest when I did the mirror in mirror check. I'm grateful for such reminders personally, even if it does mean I have to work harder than I once did to maintain the same level of fitness. It's reality. I don't always like it, but it's what I've got, and that's that.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#23777322 - 10/27/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Of course I just meant it can reverse certain aspects of the aging process such as muscle and bone density Loss to some extent, not that it will make you turn back into a teenager or that you can actually reverse the flow of time with exercise.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: daz01]
#23779924 - 10/28/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Damn. Turns out at 29 I don't recover as fast as when I was 17. Who would have thought 
Day 2 after my first Jujitsu class (two full days after) and I am more sore than I have been in at least ten years.
Spent all day yesterday, the day before and today just trying to loosen up and rehab with tennis ball self-massage, yoga, stretching etc.
Going to walk to the gym and have a steam. Yoga helped a lot. Also ate a lot of cannabis for anti-inflammatory effects but went faster than I hoped and overall those edibles were a dissapointment.
Anyways, got a few more hours before kickboxing class. Hopefully it goes as well as Jujitsu did, but I have far less striking background.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
daz01
Learning


Registered: 09/30/10
Posts: 4,652
Loc: Scotland
Last seen: 12 hours, 1 minute
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: Moonshoe]
#23782251 - 10/29/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
Do you take cold showers or ice baths? I've recently fallen in love with them. Such a psychological rush, slowly submerging yourself in extremely cold water and being consumed by pain, for it to fade into a euphoric bliss. I always leave pumped and my skin is all tingly and warm  Very effective analgesic and recovery booster.
http://www.medicaldaily.com/benefits-cold-showers-7-reasons-why-taking-cool-showers-good-your-health-289524
http://www.menprovement.com/benefits-of-cold-showers/
-------------------- Pain is temporary. It may last for a minute or an hour or a day or even a year but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it will last forever.
|
Moonshoe
Blue Mantis


Registered: 05/28/04
Posts: 27,202
Loc: Iceland
|
Re: Officially joining an MMA Gym today [Re: daz01]
#23782305 - 10/29/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
|
|
I don't but I have heard a lot about the benefits and will try to incorporate them! Have you read / heard about Wim Hof?
Check him out for sure, a true Adept.
Cryotherapy is apparently super valuable. It gets down to -30c or.cplder here so I have plans to go out in my underwear for a few minutes at a time this winter.
--------------------
Everything I post is fiction.
|
|