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Jenjens
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husband talked to me and possibly ruined everything?
#23769203 - 10/25/16 08:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi, so yesterday I tried dmt for the first time. I managed 3 hits. Immediately started seeing the colors and patterns and it was beautiful. I felt like I left my body. I told my husband NOT to talk to me before I did it and he went and took a shower. Well, with it being my first time and having high blood pressure he checked up on me. Suddenly, I was in hell. I was back in my body, still seeing things, and him, but it was a horrible, horrible, eternity of my life (10 minutes) I cannot explain it at all, really, but it was scary as hell and I kept telling him to make it stop! It was the worst experience of my life. Do you guys think him talking to me did something? I never managed to really go anywhere....as far as I can remember. It was interesting because he said my eyes were open the entire time, but all I could see where like roller coasters of colorful patterns all around me, but it turned from beautiful to terrifying. I am sorry that I cannot give more information, but I honestly cannot it explain it! Any insights? Thanks in advance.
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Re: husband talked to me and possibly ruined everything? [Re: Jenjens]
#23769207 - 10/25/16 08:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can't elaborate on the dynamic there, but don't hold a grudge on the hubby.
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Re: husband talked to me and possibly ruined everything? [Re: kaste]
#23769216 - 10/25/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah what Kaste said. You basically can regard it you would a short dream at night while asleep, you dont put so much stock in that do you? You wake up maybe check it out then move on and its done, same with DMT trips but like a semi-waking dream. Your hubby checked you because he loves you! Dont let greed cloud you from seeing that bc a stupid drug trip didnt go how u wanted it. peace. it just felt like an eternity its over, try again some time later and inform him instead of a random forum.
Unfortonate the your experience was frightening but hell ill take that too because it still shows something about yourself , hope i dont come off to forward. maybe next time youl get it hey hey!
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Edited by The Blind Ass (10/25/16 09:52 AM)
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Jenjens
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Re: husband talked to me and possibly ruined everything? [Re: The Blind Ass]
#23769223 - 10/25/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks guys. To be clear, I was not mad at my husband. I appreciate the fact that he cared enough to check up on me. I asked him not to speak to me before because that is what I read in a "tips and tricks" section about being on dmt. I am just asking because it was a beautiful experience, but the second he spoke to me it all turned into a nightmare.
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Re: husband talked to me and possibly ruined everything? [Re: Jenjens]
#23769229 - 10/25/16 08:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So this is a classical example of self fullfilling prophecy enhanced by a very hallucingenic drug. Maybe next time prep-set-psyche yourself to bleive that even if someone talks to u during a trip it wont make a difference bc u can selectivly decide to not hear things and u do it all the time so why not someones voice for 10mins? mk
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Re: husband talked to me and possibly ruined everything? [Re: The Blind Ass]
#23769236 - 10/25/16 08:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I always tell the ol lady not to talk to me right before I blast off or am peaking on DMT.. For me personally, hearing a human voice keeps me too anchored to reality and it doesn't let me get where I need to go if I hear people talk.. Never had it trigger a bad trip like you described though.. Three tokes for a first time IS a pretty heavy experience though! The roller coaster of colorful rushing patterns is completely normal though.. I hope you have a better experience on your next blastoff!
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Re: husband talked to me and possibly ruined everything? [Re: Space Coast Slayer]
#23769254 - 10/25/16 08:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah trips are unpredictable and can be cool and manageable and then turn into a living hell. Just be glad it was only 10 minutes and not 6 hours or days on end. It is kinda hard for people not to talk to you just on request. If you want that kind of trip you need to doa solo trip when nobody is there but you.
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Jenjens
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Re: husband talked to me and possibly ruined everything? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
#23769262 - 10/25/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, but the 10 minutes sure didn't feel like 10 minutes! It's amazing how you read about how long dmt trips feel until you actually experience it yourself. My husband told me I asked him a few times a minute how long it has been.
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Re: husband talked to me and possibly ruined everything? [Re: Jenjens]
#23769287 - 10/25/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Classic self fulfilling prophecy as mentioned by Blind Ass. you had it in your psyche that being spoken to, would ruin it all.
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Jenjens
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Re: husband talked to me and possibly ruined everything? [Re: YeOlde]
#23769293 - 10/25/16 08:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, that makes absolute sense.
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Re: husband talked to me and possibly ruined everything? [Re: YeOlde]
#23769299 - 10/25/16 09:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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YeOlde said: Classic self fulfilling prophecy as mentioned by Blind Ass. you had it in your psyche that being spoken to, would ruin it all.
Pretty much. My anxiety makes me do this all the time but I've learned how to make it stop and snap out of it.
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Re: husband talked to me and possibly ruined everything? [Re: Kinshino]
#23769392 - 10/25/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Don't blame your poor husband. The DMT experience is infinitely variable, and the more times to try it, the better grasp you'll have over your experience while you're on it.
There's no reason his voice should have "ruined" your experience unless you decided yourself that your experience was ruined. You have much more control over your psychedelic experience than you're demonstrating here. The experience you had on DMT sounds like a very typical DMT trip to me. Give it another shot when you're alone and won't be bothered and see how it goes.
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Re: husband talked to me and possibly ruined everything? [Re: The Blind Ass] 1
#23769627 - 10/25/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Blind Ass said: So this is a classical example of self fullfilling prophecy enhanced by a very hallucingenic drug.
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Re: husband talked to me and possibly ruined everything? [Re: moonzo]
#23789990 - 10/31/16 09:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sounds like you were in a kind of paradise and hearing the male voice or presence kind of ruined it, as it brought you back to reality and you were forced to realize you can't experience pleasurable feelings forever, or it maybe felt like you failed in your trip and couldn't access all the wonderful realms imagined. Sometimes when a DMT trip ends it can bring on sad emotions as the elation ends and begins to feel artificial, especially when interrupted so to speak - or as you come back down and are still in the midst of recovery, still thinking about what you saw. Unfortunately it could have been better if your trip was allowed to expire naturally. Happened to a guy I know. As the trip began to end he realized the TV was actually on. Then the voice of the male newscaster made him feel real anxious, as the reality of our living situation became more apparent to him. Competition, fight for survival, somewhat shitty rules for living. Gone was he from the womb, from the eternal mother space of nothingness and forgiveness as he was thrust back into reality. People could easily pull some unconscious social behavior games to weed out those they are afraid of. Sharing the cage with the brother. Sounds a bit paranoid although I wonder how it could be from a female perspective. Generally, I don't think it was necessarily the self fulfilling prophecy thing. I think that, it just made you sad that you can't feel hyperspace forever, sort of like an addict having his booze or crack taken from him. And it probably exaggerated that feeling when it was forced to end by an outsider perhaps quite rudely. I think, the neurotransmitter has a habit of exaggerating feelings and emotions, so there's that. Perhaps some serotonin is involved.
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Re: husband talked to me and possibly ruined everything? [Re: Blabble40]
#23790003 - 10/31/16 09:52 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Blabble40 said: Sounds like you were in a kind of paradise and hearing the male voice or presence kind of ruined it, as it brought you back to reality and you were forced to realize you can't experience pleasurable feelings forever, or it maybe felt like you failed in your trip and couldn't access all the wonderful realms imagined..
Just like when someone wakes you up from a good dream and you get irrationally angry at that person.
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Re: husband talked to me and possibly ruined everything? [Re: AstralAndrew]
#23790059 - 10/31/16 10:30 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Or just when someone wakes me up, and I irrationally smash them over the head with a vase!
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Re: husband talked to me and possibly ruined everything? [Re: wolf8312]
#23790078 - 10/31/16 10:42 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Have your husband go first next time to clear out his aura.
Or don't give anyone the opportunity for interference. Words are spells.
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Re: husband talked to me and possibly ruined everything? [Re: gekkogecko]
#23790129 - 10/31/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you want to be alone best trip when you're alone, or at least have a spouse that respects your boundaries. If I tell my wife I'm going deep and need to be alone for a few hours she listens. Does your husband do psychedelics? It seems like if he knew what a DMT breakthrough is like would have the good sense to listen and respect your boundaries. That shit is intense and can go south with the slightest change. You might have still had the trip turn dark without an interruption, but if it was great until you had to deal with him bothering you I would say yeah, he made your experience unpleasant.
Having to pull it together and leave the pure ether and try to listen to somebody talking to you when you're in full ego death and everything they say is just incomprehensible noise is not going to help the experience and be needlessly stressful. I would say it's entirely possibly that his interruption was indeed the cause of the turn for the worse. I like to be alone when I go deep and having to deal with somebody else interrupting me and entering my space can be entirely too much. I think it's an introvert thing. There are times when I really just do not want any other human beings around and if they are it will put me in a very bad space. I actually can't imagine having a DMT breakthrough with somebody blathering at me, it would undoubtedly give me a bad trip.
If that's the way you are, you'll have to explain to him that talking to you in that state will accomplish nothing but making your experience unpleasant, and hopefully next time he'll listen and give you some space. I mean, the shit lasts 15 minutes where you're really out of commission, he really can't wait that long? Maybe he has ADHD?
Edited by P.Zappatecorum (10/31/16 11:17 PM)
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Re: husband talked to me and possibly ruined everything? [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
#23790494 - 11/01/16 06:14 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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P.Zappatecorum said: If you want to be alone best trip when you're alone, or at least have a spouse that respects your boundaries. If I tell my wife I'm going deep and need to be alone for a few hours she listens. Does your husband do psychedelics? It seems like if he knew what a DMT breakthrough is like would have the good sense to listen and respect your boundaries. That shit is intense and can go south with the slightest change. You might have still had the trip turn dark without an interruption, but if it was great until you had to deal with him bothering you I would say yeah, he made your experience unpleasant.
Having to pull it together and leave the pure ether and try to listen to somebody talking to you when you're in full ego death and everything they say is just incomprehensible noise is not going to help the experience and be needlessly stressful. I would say it's entirely possibly that his interruption was indeed the cause of the turn for the worse. I like to be alone when I go deep and having to deal with somebody else interrupting me and entering my space can be entirely too much. I think it's an introvert thing. There are times when I really just do not want any other human beings around and if they are it will put me in a very bad space. I actually can't imagine having a DMT breakthrough with somebody blathering at me, it would undoubtedly give me a bad trip.
If that's the way you are, you'll have to explain to him that talking to you in that state will accomplish nothing but making your experience unpleasant, and hopefully next time he'll listen and give you some space. I mean, the shit lasts 15 minutes where you're really out of commission, he really can't wait that long? Maybe he has ADHD?

my thoughts exactly
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Re: husband talked to me and possibly ruined everything? [Re: gekkogecko]
#23790500 - 11/01/16 06:22 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dont hold it against him. But dmt is best enjoyed totally alone
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