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nooneman


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Losing contact with reality and other strange experiences on psychedelics.
#23768679 - 10/24/16 11:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Even the first time I did mushrooms at a high dose, there were moments of almost total loss of contact with reality. I saw neon colored shapes in various patterns and couldn't feel my body, in fact I almost felt like I didn't exist except that I saw seeing the neon shapes.
Since that time I've had many other encounters with unusual highly altered states. On ALD52, it seemed like my sight was physically leaving the confines of my body, and at the peak there was a state very similar to that I experienced on mushrooms. I could only see neon shapes and colors and couldn't feel my body, but everything seemed flat and two dimensional, and it was like the image that comprised my existence was flickering like a broken TV.
I have tons of other stories I could share, but I want to hear from you guys.
I'm curious to hear your stories of moments or extended encounters with highly altered states. Whether it's momentary flashes that overwhelm your vision, or dosing waaay too high, tell me about your experiences with losing contact with reality and/or other strange highly altered states.
What's your story?
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Re: Losing contact with reality and other strange experiences on psychedelics. [Re: nooneman]
#23768698 - 10/25/16 12:08 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Several times I have experienced being seemingly outside of the body. As in - the best i can put it, and this is just words to give you an image of sorts - like a disembodied spirit floating around. It seemingly had no form yet could move about freely like floating/flying. I could see my body in real time and others in the room real time and hear them, see them move about and talk to eachother. Very interesting very thought provoking - Still dont know what to make of those types of experiences.
It could be as it seems, or maybe its the brain creating a simulation of the environment through previous experience up until the moment of OBE and then continuing but somehow locality is now lost to the body and can explore the simulation freely. I really dont know - but It was no different from as I am now, only i wasnt in the body.
Oh and it happened before I ever experimented with any psychoactive. But it also occurred once on a psychedelic.
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Edited by The Blind Ass (10/25/16 12:10 AM)
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Mike4aco
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Re: Losing contact with reality and other strange experiences on psychedelics. [Re: The Blind Ass]
#23768747 - 10/25/16 12:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Once on 1.5 mg of LSD I came out of everything and saw a giant worm like thing maneuvering myriad crystal balls that each contained its own universe
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Re: Losing contact with reality and other strange experiences on psychedelics. [Re: Mike4aco]
#23768914 - 10/25/16 03:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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This stuff sounds scary/beautiful.
I think I better stick to the beers and higher consciousness.
Schizophrenia and this stuff, nah...
I mean, think of what the catatonic schizos see, probably something like OP or post #3
Just speaking for myself.
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nooneman


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Re: Losing contact with reality and other strange experiences on psychedelics. [Re: nooneman]
#23770151 - 10/25/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bumping this during the day for (hopefully) more input. Any stories about unusual altered states on psychedelics or losing contact with reality are welcome
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The Blind Ass
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Re: Losing contact with reality and other strange experiences on psychedelics. [Re: nooneman]
#23770189 - 10/25/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Last night I experienced a wonderful lucid dream where I found myself laying In bed watching the dream unfold knowing that It was all my minds apparition like appearances. The entire time I could feel and sense my body laying in bed, but consciousness and mind immersed in dream land.
I start to conjure massive bliss so much my body literally feels like it is vibrating, then it proceeds to lift me off from the ground and I start flying/floating backwards and slightly up faster and faster through the dream sequence I was going through without fear of hitting anything because I knew it was just a dream so i would just go through it all! THE BLISS MAN!.
Then some heavier things happened later in the dream which I wont divulge here.
This occurred after a nightly session of Zazen sitting meditation (somewhat shikantaza b/c no koan practice) Immediatly after the hour was up I lay down and instead of falling asleep continue the practice of ana-pana-sati and some dzogchen technique.
I stayed lucid and awake through the seamless transition that is conscious waking state to sleep/dream state and so entered lucid. Wild! Never had this happen. But It was like being a wizard/conjurer, interesting but not the point of practice.
If your interested in the practice and the discipline this is a decent door into it.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn51/sn51.020.than.html
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Edited by The Blind Ass (10/25/16 02:17 PM)
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nooneman


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Re: Losing contact with reality and other strange experiences on psychedelics. [Re: The Blind Ass]
#23770198 - 10/25/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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No, no, I'm interested in highly altered states on psychedelics mainly because I'm curious about how many unusual psychedelic states there are, and if we can all agree that certain states are more common than others. Like the brief flashes of geometric visuals filling your entire vision on mushrooms, or having your vision zoom in on a lysergamide. This is about the unusual effects of high dose psychedelics.
Edited by nooneman (10/25/16 02:19 PM)
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The Blind Ass
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Re: Losing contact with reality and other strange experiences on psychedelics. [Re: Mike4aco]
#23770202 - 10/25/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Mike4aco said: Once on 1.5 mg of LSD I came out of everything and saw a giant worm like thing maneuvering myriad crystal balls that each contained its own universe
That is very interesting, and fun to entertain the idea heren and now, and I bet was profound to experience directly.
I have heard similar things from 1 or 2 other people I have had the pleasure of knowing over the years.
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Re: Losing contact with reality and other strange experiences on psychedelics. [Re: nooneman] 1
#23770330 - 10/25/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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nooneman said: ....I'm curious to hear your stories of moments or extended encounters with highly altered states. Whether it's momentary flashes that overwhelm your vision, or dosing waaay too high, tell me about your experiences with losing contact with reality and/or other strange highly altered states.
What's your story?
The first story that comes to my mind is an experience I've mentioned around here several times over the years, and I feel that it's still just about the most profound experience I've had with psychedelics...at least within such a short span of time .
This actually happened with a "not so high" dose of LSD, it was with a single drop of relatively potent liquid (around 150mcg if I had to throw out a number), and a couple inhalations of nitrous oxide. I was at a small music festival/gathering in the sierra Nevada mountains, laying in my tent when this happened. It was around 2 to 3 hours after dosing, IIRC.
Story starts off from the point I inhale the nitrous oxide.
A powerful "sensation" sweeps over me out of no where, similar to the blissful tingles washing over me that I get from LSD but this fully enveloped me. With eyes open I started to see patterning that I can only describe as Penrose Tiling start to form in the air itself, the patterns were semi-transparent and vibrating/buzzing and shifting around in various layers ever so slightly. I quickly lose touch/dissolve, "break off" from the here and now of where I was, and become nothing more than a point of awareness laying upon and meshed into a flat grid/plane which expanded infinitely. While there, my point of awareness was composed of/represented by, all I was, was a purple Dodecahedron. This dodecahedron had a very interesting dynamic to it that I could feel just as if it was my body, it had movement in several different "axis" simultaneously. It was buzzing/vibrating, spinning in circles very slowly, and what stood out the most was an oscillation/pull of sorts that was at a low frequency, around 7hz to 10hz or so, and this oscillation/low frequency seemed to be anchored to where my chest/heart area would be (I didn't have awareness of my actual body, but these sensations were still felt, hard to explain ). This sensation of the oscillation/pull was remarkably similar to the feeling of holding a spinning bike wheel in between your hands, that feeling of pull that comes from the angular momentum & Gyroscopic precession of a spinning object, but this sensation was felt through out all of my being/awareness, this was pretty much a full on out of body experience.
So "I" became this spinning/vibrating/oscillating purple dodecahedron hovering above/laying upon an infinite grid, within an infinite expanse of nothing...just this infinite grid, and the dodecahedron. But I was also very much aware of and a part of the infinite grid as well, ever fabric of my being/awareness was meshed into and stretched out across the infinite grid, and there was that low frequency/oscilation feeling coursing through me....It felt like this grid was where consciousness lays, like "I" slipped down into some quantum/fundamental level of consciousness....While this was occurring I was simply just aware, observing, there wasn't much sense of my self, of "I", "me". As my sense of self started to trickle back, I was filled with the utmost feeling of "awe", grandeur, appreciation, thankfulness, pure unadulterated bliss, absolute ecstasy.
I'm not sure how long I was "out" for, but when I started to come back to I had an intense sensation that I can only describe as something pouring out of my chest/heart region along with that low frequency oscillation tugging about the same area....accompanied with this sensation was uncontrollable heavy ecstatic breathing that went on for at least several minutes, all the while tears were pouring out of my eyes like a busted faucet.
I've dosed higher than that many a times over the years, and have inhaled nitrous oxide during many other higher dosed trips...but for some reason, something clicked just right that time and I was completely broken off from "reality" . Seems like every so often, maybe 1 out of 10 times, nitrous will catalyze some ridiculous far out experience for me when inhaled while on a psychedelic. I mean it's always intense and gnarly, but every so often something really novel happens.
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nooneman


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Re: Losing contact with reality and other strange experiences on psychedelics. [Re: openmind]
#23770351 - 10/25/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Amazing writing, great explanations and descriptions of the effects.
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Re: Losing contact with reality and other strange experiences on psychedelics. [Re: nooneman]
#23786174 - 10/30/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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hopefully you didnt lose too much oxygen
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Re: Losing contact with reality and other strange experiences on psychedelics. [Re: omnifarious]
#23787322 - 10/31/16 12:19 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Because "you" don't exist. It shows you a different perspective. The reality that you've created in your mind does not exist outside of your mind. You are merely experiencing this plane and interpreting it into your idea of "reality" using your senses. Once you change the way your senses perceive things, by heightening them, your interpretation and experience changes
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