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Any potential side effects taking 1g every day? (think microdosing but not so micro)
    #23768159 - 10/24/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hey guys, I thought I'd get some advice from those most in the know. I'm planning on taking 1g a day for 4 months, with a 1 week break every 4th week. I'm used to taking that dosage regularly but not over that long a time frame, just these past few weeks I have been doing so and seeing tons of benefit. I know you build up tolerance but I still find myself to be the best version possible on that dosage, even during the last week it felt the same as the second and first, so to me it's definitely worth it.

Anyway, the only reason I'm here really is because I'm aware of mushrooms and their ability to cause neurogenesis. Now, I'm not that knowledgeable when it comes to just how much "growth" occurs from taking mushrooms, and I'm wondering if it could potentially be dangerous, or just what neurogenesis does exactly? As in, does it grow new neurons essentially making your brain more dense/bigger or does it replace and remap shit? I'm figuring it could be the prior what with Terence McKenna's stoned ape theory causing the brain to enlarge dramatically over a relatively short period of time so I'd like to know just what and how dramatic these physical changes could be. Yeah, I don't expect my head to grow twice in size or anything ridiculous but even the slightest growth or something I'd like to know about, only because I honestly have no idea and am interested in finding out. Don't worry about me from a psychological standpoint, if I feel like it's a bit too much or starting to have negative effects I'll cease it immediately but I'm talking potential physical damage or something, or the possibility of causing a tumour I don't know. It may be a stupid question I know but I figure knowing it's absolutely safe from a physical standpoint will set my mind at ease which will be important if I'm to do this so I don't care if I come across like a retard or anything, feel free to bash me in that case if it is that stupid to even think it could be dangerous.

If I go ahead with it I'll likely log it if anyone's interested, it'd be like a microdosing log on steroids I guess and I'm not aware of anyone else trying something similar, if something similar has already been done I'd love to know how it went though.

Anyway thanks for reading, any advice or input of any sort would be awesome. Thanks! :thumbup:


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Re: Any potential side effects taking 1g every day? (think microdosing but not so micro) [Re: Atmann]
    #23768208 - 10/24/16 08:43 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I did a microdose experiment using 20-30ug of lsd a day for a month or so, which is a little higher than a typical microdose.

I get full on visuals at 40-50 ug, so it's just under a visual dose.

Was like a script for a good day.


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Re: Any potential side effects taking 1g every day? (think microdosing but not so micro) [Re: hTx]
    #23768223 - 10/24/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You're perfectly safe, no tumors will grow and neurogenesis will be insignificant with relation to brain size increasing lol


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Re: Any potential side effects taking 1g every day? (think microdosing but not so micro) [Re: hTx]
    #23768248 - 10/24/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ah nice. Well that makes me feel a lot safer knowing that, I thought it was a dumb question but I wanted to erase any doubt and put my mind at ease. Thanks brother.

How did you find that experiment? Do you feel as if you benefited at all? If so do you still notice those benefits? Also, have you tried microdosing shrooms? Is there much of a difference between the two when it comes to microdosing?


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Re: Any potential side effects taking 1g every day? (think microdosing but not so micro) [Re: Atmann]
    #23768368 - 10/24/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Dont know, do let us know if you do it though.  I wouldnt advise it.  But if you do let us know how it goes.


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Re: Any potential side effects taking 1g every day? (think microdosing but not so micro) [Re: Atmann]
    #23768380 - 10/24/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Cool idea, I like the aspiration.

What I think is going to happen is a like like this little mushroom here:mushroom2:

I have read articles of people testing Psilocybin (extract) on subjects (people) and that lasted for about no more than 8 weeks. So seeing this in that point of view, 4 months is a lot longer than you really think it is. What your taking isn't so much of a short term effect either, There is a lot more of long term affects associated with this type of "behavior"
I don't see any real problems with this, I know that the biggest influence for you is going to be diet. The better the diet the better the outcome. Like meditation, that will flourish if you meditate lots, and eat really healthy, maybe a little physical exercise too. I have read up on meditation and it doesn't take much to make meditation effective. It you were to spend 3 times a day, each at least 10-15 minutes in length that you will have an outstanding result. If your interested I suggest buying meditation books, on how to meditate and all the different ways to meditate. Meditation increases the size of your prefrontal cortex (up to 13%).
Mushrooms are all different to their own nature. Most legal mushrooms are known to be healthy and good for you physically. I'm not exactly sure what is all going to be inside your mushroom but it can be a good thing to look into(not a big threat). I don't think there are any health issues to worry about so long as you maintain a good diet. 1g is also considered not a "high" dosage. Ive heard of people eating an ounce in a sitting, none the less they're alive.

Swim for a year would eat so much acid that he never really escapes the trip. Taking doses up to 20 hits in a smack. Become a lot more disassociated from "people" and "reality" It was noticeable to other people, though swim chose to ignore what other people had in their heads. Swim also did lots of shit drugs in this time, Which had added the the effects of disassociation. Swim also had detox periods. These periods swim started to notice his "side effects" or flashbacks you may, and realized he rolled out the red carpet for himself to what might be a lifes longs journey into the psychedelia.
Swim ended up smoking pot again after several months of detox. The effect of pot brought on trips as powerful as a psychedelic trip of its own, but from a perspective of the pot he had smoked, Nothing like lsd or shrooms. Flashback which had brought weed to induce its own colorfully visual (OEV)(CEV) effects that had stunning looks. Although the first smoke was always the most intense after these tolorance breaks, and became less extreme, and than became mundane.
To date- Swim only takes something psychedelic twice a year, which adds to more flashy vision for a while of time during and after the setting. Swim had months of periods that he did not take psychedelics and the flashbacks had became less violent.
Swim-

Overall, I think that your going to notice a changing or difference in your everyday life, mentally, Probably physically too. Really make sure that your diet is kick ass and I would not doubt that your results will be effective. Just be aware you will be a lot more like this mushroom:mushroom2:  I think that if you meditate on routine, You should be able to comprehend reality and be able to make good choices, be aware that you will probably have more long term effects than short. If your okay with that.  Which is why diet can play a big factor here.

Im only 6 years into my psychedelic experience and I could say that IF I dont take any drugs or mind altering substance that its residual effects might cease after 5 years, Sound highly likely right?
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Re: Any potential side effects taking 1g every day? (think microdosing but not so micro) [Re: littleton]
    #23768523 - 10/24/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Great post thanks, I actually know exactly what you mean with that post psychedelic weed state. I had the same thing after taking LSD for the first time and then smoking weed some weeks afterwards, the CEV's were incredible, not as intense but I was floating down a wireframe tunnel and could see every organ of mine and breath illuminated in various colors. Never had anything like that happen since then on weed mind you.

As for meditation I usually do meditate a shit ton and started slacking a month or so back, I used to aim for about 3 hours a day and now I manage roughly 30 minutes to and hour a day if I'm lucky and sometimes I'll skip some days and now it feels like I'm almost back at square one with it. This is something that I mean to address for this experiment, beforehand I want to get a solid month in of 3 hours a day and continue to do so throughout the experiment because what I felt from the frequent mushroom use over the past few weeks was while it seemed meditative like I was much more in the moment and mindful, when it came the time to form a coherent thought trail if you would, like following a thought stream and making sense of something it felt like I was pretty scatter brained, as if I had so many things waiting to be processed coming at me at once and didn't have the focus I usually do from meditation to manage them effectively. So meditation is definitely a requirement for me at least in order to be able to use these as I intend to.

And yeah, I realise a 1g dose isn't high by any means but over the course of 4 months that adds up to just under 100g which in that time frame is quite considerable, especially given the fact that it's not all at once either or every now and again, rather a consistent stream of psilocybin over a long period of time. I don't know if that does make a difference at all, but that was my reasoning for cause for concern anyway but I'm glad that it appears to be completely safe regardless.

Thanks for all the advice you gave though, I'm fairly sure I know how I'd be on them for the whole duration from what I suppose could be described as a trial run I just did for 3 weeks, hopefully even better with meditation added back into the mix.

If I go ahead with it (which seems very likely) you can expect to find a log of it here.

Cheers fellas.


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Re: Any potential side effects taking 1g every day? (think microdosing but not so micro) [Re: Atmann]
    #23768670 - 10/24/16 11:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

My hypothesis is that your body will adjust to the 1 gram dosage after 1 month probably less.

And I predict upon stopping after 4 months that you may go through a period of time where you pay back the debt you incurred for putting psychoactive in your body daily for 4 months.

After the 4 months I imagine in another some months it will be like nothing ever happened besides the memory of the experience and anything novel that happened within it that contributed towards your growth, stagnation, or degradation as a mammal.

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Re: Any potential side effects taking 1g every day? (think microdosing but not so micro) [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23770079 - 10/25/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

after a week you're just gonna feel giddy for a bit and then nothing

that's my simple prediction


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Re: Any potential side effects taking 1g every day? (think microdosing but not so micro) [Re: cube talk]
    #23778526 - 10/27/16 09:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Bump. PM to OP sent.


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