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Matrolen
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Yellow Morel: Same Spores, Different Mycelium
#23767470 - 10/24/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hello fellow Shroomerites, first time post, but have been reading for years.
I'll get started with my story quickly. It's basically an identifying issue.
I had a spore syringe for Yellow Morels and inoculated a few bags that I got from a vendor that were completely dirty and had to dump all of them because of contaminants. Yes, I went through all of my sterile and SAB techniques which has worked almost flawlessly throughout the years. Vendor sent me new ones and they worked just fine.
Regardless, I was left with an almost empty spore syringe with a bit of fluid and a large clump of spores which I got out and placed on an empty clean petri. I got into my SAB and inoculated several petris from the same glob of spores. The end result was what I labeled YM #1 and YM #2 (see pics).
YM#1 seems to be the classic description of the brownish morel myc that is expected. In the jar there are even some places that look like small sclerotia where one might expect to see them (on the glass, non nutritious place).
YM#2 is white myc that has never turned brown. It's rate of growth is just about the same as the yellow (then brown) myc and so is the pattern.
So I kept them separate in dishes and also in the agar to grain transfers but they came from the same spore cluster. I have read few anecdotal observations that sometimes morel myc might start off as white or stay white but it is often described as whispy. This white myc looks like cube myc but grows super fast like the other yellow-brown morel myc.
Please take a look at the pics included.
I think what I'll end up doing is grow each in different fruit media and see what I get so I can try identify the fruit. If nothing grows then most likely it'll be both morel. The rest I'll have to keep separate morels beds for YM#1 and YM#2 that I already have prepared. It'll be a long time, if ever, to see results though.
Thanks guys.
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Morel Guy
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Re: Yellow Morel: Same Spores, Different Mycelium [Re: Matrolen]
#23767496 - 10/24/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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They both look like good cultures. Try to fruit both and judge the results.
Do yourself a favor and get some biochar from Arbico, for the fruiting substrate. By the way what are your plans to fruit? Inside or outside?
-------------------- "in sterquiliniis invenitur in stercore invenitur" In filth it will be found in dung it will be found
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Re: Yellow Morel: Same Spores, Different Mycelium [Re: Morel Guy]
#23768984 - 10/25/16 04:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I thought outside was the only option.
Morel Guy, do you have a working approach for fruiting morels indoors?
If so, please share with us. I've got some black and yellow morel spores that I'd love to be able to fruit indoors!
Edited by adadada (10/25/16 04:42 AM)
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Morel Guy
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Re: Yellow Morel: Same Spores, Different Mycelium [Re: adadada]
#23769156 - 10/25/16 07:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's been done indoors. Requires a fruiting substrate colonized to form sclerotia then refrigerated. Fruiting temps are also low, like 50s.
I don't keep my house that cold, not even in the basement during the winter. Plus, I have a smaller fridge.
I suppose someone could modify a fridge or freezer to be a fruiting chamber.
Check out Penn State's culture list. They are pricey but thy have an extensive list of mushroom cultures. $150 a plate plus shipping. There is a culture there that was used commercially. It's a yellow and recommended by the department head lady.
-------------------- "in sterquiliniis invenitur in stercore invenitur" In filth it will be found in dung it will be found
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Re: Yellow Morel: Same Spores, Different Mycelium [Re: Morel Guy]
#23769234 - 10/25/16 08:32 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cold water hydro fruiting chamber.

Cold water aquarium kit + mods.
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