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Ifitbeyourwill
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monsters and faces
#23767412 - 10/24/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi all,
The other day i decided to share an intense experience with a friend. I poured 10 grams of homegrown, potent, dried magic power (cubes) for each of us and we ate it with grapefruit juice.
My GF was not partaking that evening and was our sitter.
Within 10 minutes (strangely enough) i was feeling the effects and we had to stop the music i was playing because we both felt like it was too intense.
What happened in the the next several hours was strange beyond imagination.
At first i was in a good mood and was trying to sing a bit. the the bed spread turned into a jungle with funny stuff in it.
At this point my friend just asked..."do you guys believe that devil exists?"
As soon as this question was asked, the blanked turned into a thousand evil faces. With strange faces and fangs and evil intentions. All trying to grab me.
Ran to the shower and tried to cool myself down but the faces were in the shower too...looking at my from evey corner.
Was trying to throw up...face were looking at me from inside the toilet.
So hours passed until the negative feelings and monsters left me.
And afterward I was left with an extreme sense of happiness...like these were bad things in my psyche who have left me.
I should also mention I was taking Saint Johns Wort for a few weeks at this point and my first DMT experience was also extremely frightening and very similar to a bad death.
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Morel Guy
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Good for you. Facing demons head on is the only way. Can't run from them.
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Ifitbeyourwill
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Re: monsters and faces [Re: Morel Guy]
#23767478 - 10/24/16 04:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes but i am still scared of going to my bedroom at times...it was funny how one word switched the vibe and turned everything a funny feeling to a hellish situation.
I was feeling bad about hurting my girlfriends feelings and the monsters did not leave me until i promised them i would not hurt her.
Also it is noteworthy that this whole situation started a bit after midnight. The next morning I saw on my phone that there was a note that Leonard Cohen's album "you want it darker" was released. I had got that note at 12:24 at about the same time the monsters showed up.
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The Blind Ass
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classic example of projection manifested via imagination/mind under the influence of classical psychedelics. . friend mentioned devil and so things associated with it manifest visually via perceptually distortions and warping of things already there or in their shadows. Imagine if he mentioned "do u believe in angels? gods?" . your OP is a classic example of what psychedelic means. Mind Manifesting.
Remember its all just your mind acting funny! what a trickster !
All the demons in hell are your own
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Edited by The Blind Ass (10/24/16 05:13 PM)
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Morel Guy
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Psycadelics open the mind up to association. That is why they looked at these drugs for brainwashing.
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Re: monsters and faces [Re: Morel Guy]
#23767558 - 10/24/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: Psycadelics open the mind up to association. That is why they looked at these drugs for brainwashing.
precisely. they found a few worked well for what they sought, but they also found unintended consequences ( the one under the influence seeing through falseness and deception, and fabrications, and more "seemingly" ESP type stuff on rare occasions, or just plain psychosis and so nothing coherent could be discerned by gov, and more randomly the classical natural primordial mystical experience.)
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Do you eat meat?
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Ifitbeyourwill
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yes i do eat meat. why?
I am beginning to think my sense of depression before this experience or the saint John's wort i was taking for a few weeks led to such a negative experience.
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Morel Guy
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Hallucinations are projections from the subconscious. It's the deep parts of your mind and brain speaking to you. These parts of us of any number of strange ways of communicating. Non attachment is a blessing of not reacting to what your mind says.
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Ifitbeyourwill said: yes i do eat meat. why?
I am beginning to think my sense of depression before this experience or the saint John's wort i was taking for a few weeks led to such a negative experience.
Have you ever seen what that "meat" goes through on the way to your table?
The chemical memory of everything that happens to that meat is imprinted on it. All of the panic, terror, violence, that it experienced - it's body secreted into it before it died. And that's what you're eating.
An increased consciousness is going to make you more and more aware of what is in you.
"You are what you eat".
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Morel Guy
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I mostly eat meat from the farm I labor. I do not think I am a goat.
I was seeing evil images as I fell asleep last night. It didn't bother me nor did I interact. Reminded me of strangeness I experienced as a kid.
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Re: monsters and faces [Re: Morel Guy]
#23779591 - 10/28/16 09:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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you are what you dont poop out.
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Re: monsters and faces [Re: Morel Guy]
#23780554 - 10/28/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: I mostly eat meat from the farm I labor. I do not think I am a goat.
I was seeing evil images as I fell asleep last night. It didn't bother me nor did I interact. Reminded me of strangeness I experienced as a kid.
What you think you are is not the point. The point is what Entheogens show you you are. Entheogens increase the consciousness beyond what we normally are aware of. It is like our normal "vision" is actually blindness and the Entheogens cause our eyes to be opened.
"Oneness" is a common experience that comes from Entheogens.
If Entheogens show you that you are "one" with a goat -- They are showig you that you are a goat.
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You and your friend both ate 10 dried grams of cubensis? Did I read that right?
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Morel Guy
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Separateness can be a good thing. I don't want to think I am one with an approaching train and become one wih the track and earth.
I have tripped who knows how many times. The spirit of mushrooms really do blend senses to external stimuli. It feels like there is more to the experience worth exploring. Higher doses get visionary and I no longer feel any need to explore my surroundings.
Three can also be nasty experiences such as fearing our mind can create bad things happening. Which is true. I have never taken a drug that overcomes the normal risks of living.
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Re: monsters and faces [Re: Morel Guy]
#23781593 - 10/28/16 11:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why would you think that being aware that the train is made up of atoms just as you are, means you have to get run over by the train?
The train doesn't have consciousness. It doesn't produce DMT in its brain.
Animals do produce DMT in their brains. From the Entheogen's point of view, you and the goat are the same. You both have the same wants, needs, and desires.
You are the goat.
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Visual manifestation of a conceived image due to hearing a sentence about the devil...kinda cool actually, After a while tripping (assuming you're new to tripping) you'll probably be able to study that happening and laugh at it, instead of being frightened by it in the moment.
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No, k don't want to breed with other goats. There are differences among everything and that is beautiful and very interesting.
Psycadelics can exaggerate senses. Also exaggerate the ego speaking of the experience.
Also it hasn't been proven the mammal brain contains DMT. It is a theory based on the possibility.
There is a lot to psychology that isn't unified and psycadelics work in that area. Hypnosis, brain waves, folie e duex.
I don't want a susesptable state to,the likes of Hitler due to a sensation of oneness and togetherness. Although there could be information there that may be valuable. Just to understand the mental properties of another person who is dangerous.
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Re: monsters and faces [Re: Morel Guy]
#23784277 - 10/30/16 01:24 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said: No, k don't want to breed with other goats. There are differences among everything and that is beautiful and very interesting.
Psycadelics can exaggerate senses. Also exaggerate the ego speaking of the experience.
Also it hasn't been proven the mammal brain contains DMT. It is a theory based on the possibility.
There is a lot to psychology that isn't unified and psycadelics work in that area. Hypnosis, brain waves, folie e duex.
I don't want a susesptable state to,the likes of Hitler due to a sensation of oneness and togetherness. Although there could be information there that may be valuable. Just to understand the mental properties of another person who is dangerous.
To yourself you are a human. To DMT you are a goat - a grasshopper. Your basic needs are exactly the same.
It has been proven that DMT is produced in the human body - but the Substance of consciousness is an Entheogen. Every conscious being has Entheogens in it.
"We know that DMT can be detected in rat brain tissue from animals pretreated with an MAO inhibitor" --https://erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=3146
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Edited by endogenous (10/30/16 01:38 AM)
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Ifitbeyourwill
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yeah. I seem to have a very high threshold. I typically eat 10-11..
It is very strange to me too. I do not try to brag or anything (if this is something to brag about anyway.)
I grow relatively potent cubes. I have seen its effect on some friends that go on intense trips with a couple of grams of dried medicine I grow. But when I take it it takes me at least 6 grams to even feel the effect.
so Far 11 and 10 gr of it has taken me on intense/terrifying trips though.
I also did 1000 ugr of LSD a couple of times with no effect.
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I believe you, but that's definitely a high dose. Does your friend normally take that much? I would not give someone over 3.5g if I did not know them and their psychedelic history very well, that's playing with fire.
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Ifitbeyourwill
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I agree...We are relatively experienced but i should have not given her that much. She would be fine with 7gr or so.
Both of us are still recovering
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Fine with 7g lol. I don't know if I could handle hanging out with you
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Ifitbeyourwill
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Terence mckenneth says people usually take too little. he recommends 5gr to get the real experience.
When Someone is taking it for the first times I usually give them like 2gr.
And I have concluded that i should not trip with people anymore so I just give them 5gr the next time, ask them to research it themselves and trip with someone they trust.
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