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InvisibleMoonshoe
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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #23769699 - 10/25/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I recommend getting it RXd for sure. Its a great thing to have in your stash for any kind of WD,


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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23769713 - 10/25/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

hmm... maybe i will.

but i might also be getting 80 5mg valiums soon, so that'd be pretty chill.


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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #23769732 - 10/25/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

pregabalin will help if you ever decide to taper down or get off benzos someday.


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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: musiclover420]
    #23769737 - 10/25/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

At such a low dose I wouldn't worry too much.


The worst thing I get is leg/muscle spasms that wake me up in the middle of the night. I'm always half a sleep and for what ever reason my leg always stretches on it's own then it just goes crazy and hurts insanely bad and leaves my leg sore for a day or two.

Insomnia but sleepy as fuck

Not able to enjoy or be interested in things I normally would.

Anxiety

That's from 15-20+g a day over a long period of time with no breaks though.
That being said it's not really as bad as it sounds it's more about the mental part.

I did 5g once a day for a long time and hardly got any w/ds from it. Runny nose and yawny, was almost nothing.

I think what really fucks you over is doing large doses multiple times a day. Seems to be what did it for me.


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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: Eggtimer]
    #23769740 - 10/25/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah the leg twitches are the main problem for me too. When I try to sleep my legs stretch constantly all night and I cant sleep at all. If you have a bad habit your arms can start doing it to and you look almost like you are having minor seizures/spasming.

Benzos didnt stop this and neither did phenibut, but pregabalin eliminates this issue and lets me sleep sound.


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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: musiclover420]
    #23769962 - 10/25/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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probs a bit early to tell. Youll defs know at the 24 hour mark if its going to be bad or not.

or more importantly... think of your psychological withdrawals. 




I was only like 3-4 hours away from the 24 hour mark I believe, sometime soon I will go for an at least 2-3 day break to really test the waters though.




From what I know of you, being an smackie myself, and from my formal education.... your addicted one way or the another m8....

Even if you think its just a little habit... Just watch it creep up on ya. If it works for you and you want it in your life.. thats cool though I guess. I personally dont want to be chained to a substance but if it keeps you function for the time being go for it.


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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #23771623 - 10/25/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Moonshoe said:
Can you get gabapentin or pregabalin Sancho?






I know gabapentin is prescribed here in the USA, but thought you could buy Nupentin online rather easily on clear net.


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but fuck, i don't wanna go through wd's.





I love/hate WD's, pain and depression are realer than what most people will give you these days, people piss on your head and say it's raining, kratom at least has character and sticks to what it says it is, I respect that honesty.

Embrace the damage.


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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: Lucis]
    #23772926 - 10/26/16 10:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

what do you mean....?


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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #23774067 - 10/26/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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what do you mean....?




Theres something comfortable about WD's... After youve been sick so many times... Its kinda comfortable, you get traditions, routine. For me at least, misery is comforting in a way. Its hard to explain... but unlike happiness which never sticks around... you can always find a way to make yourself miserable.


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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: kakashi68]
    #23774166 - 10/26/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I almost know what you mean but with literally being sick.

When I have a killer headache or feel like shit from the flu or whatever I look forward to feeling better so much that when it finally starts to pass its euphoric.

Makes me feel alive and thankful to the universe for seeing me through such tough times and not having me go through even tougher trials.


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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: kakashi68]
    #23774207 - 10/26/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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sanchothestoner said:
what do you mean....?




Theres something comfortable about WD's... After youve been sick so many times... Its kinda comfortable, you get traditions, routine. For me at least, misery is comforting in a way. Its hard to explain... but unlike happiness which never sticks around... you can always find a way to make yourself miserable.




Honestly there are brief bits of mania for me in withdrawal sort of like a trip, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.  It just wreaks havoc with your subconscious and after a day or two you just get numb from over-stimulation and can't feel anything.  I always told myself that at least opiates aren't toxic to the body, but if your thought process and ability to feel joy are corrupted what the fuck is the point of being healthy?


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