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How long do kratom W/D take to develop?
#23767241 - 10/24/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have been using kratom 2-3x daily for months now, usually in 1-1.5g increments so I generally just eat 2-3g a day.
Was thinking of taking my first break in awhile today and didn't take my morning dose. I have been feeling alright all day minus being a bit extra tired.
Made some tea but it wasn't cutting it so I said fuck it and just took 1g of some white vien.
So I am wondering, did I not wait long enough for withdrawals to develop? I have heard it takes over 24 hours in some cases.
Previously when I stopped I experienced mild W/D similiar to stopping my cannabis use or a long term coffee habit.
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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: musiclover420]
#23767292 - 10/24/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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probs a bit early to tell. Youll defs know at the 24 hour mark if its going to be bad or not.
or more importantly... think of your psychological withdrawals.
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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: kakashi68]
#23767329 - 10/24/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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kakashi68 said: probs a bit early to tell. Youll defs know at the 24 hour mark if its going to be bad or not.
or more importantly... think of your psychological withdrawals.
I was only like 3-4 hours away from the 24 hour mark I believe, sometime soon I will go for an at least 2-3 day break to really test the waters though.
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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: musiclover420]
#23767440 - 10/24/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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taking day breaks here n there helps.
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sanchothestoner said: taking day breaks here n there helps.
Even skipping my morning dose seemed to improve its effects. It was comparable to not toking up all day and then that first evening toke being extra magical 
I took 1.11 and am feeling it pretty damn nicely.
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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: musiclover420]
#23767752 - 10/24/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kratom Withdrawals will kick into high gear after you have not consumed any for 24-36 hours.
You will feel fine the first day, maybe just a bit lethargic, some watery eyes, sniffles, you might have problems sleeping that first night without it, but that next day you're going to feel them, and have problems sleeping, RLS, depression, anxiety, and just all around crappy.
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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: Lucis] 1
#23767862 - 10/24/16 06:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I sell kratom, and have used it for almost 2 years.
For me, the withdrawals never really hit me until I was taking at least 10g a day of the strongest kratom I've sourced. That was about a year ago when I decided to take a week break.
I think with your low doses it will only be psychological withdrawals and maybe some initial lethargy the first day. When I take breaks, tapering definitely helps, and in your case, .5g-.75g as a withdrawal cushion would be effective.
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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: Khancious]
#23767898 - 10/24/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gotta wait at least 24 hours and then it isn't even a big deal at all. The worst thing is the RLS. I've found that if I work out really hard the day that the RLS is going to kick in, then I don't even notice much because I fall asleep right away. I try to ween myself off for the week before I quit and then I don't even get RLS
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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: Khancious]
#23767928 - 10/24/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Khancious said: I sell kratom, and have used it for almost 2 years.
For me, the withdrawals never really hit me until I was taking at least 10g a day of the strongest kratom I've sourced. That was about a year ago when I decided to take a week break.
I think with your low doses it will only be psychological withdrawals and maybe some initial lethargy the first day. When I take breaks, tapering definitely helps, and in your case, .5g-.75g as a withdrawal cushion would be effective.
That is pretty much what I thought, I almost never go past 4g in a day.
I do want to experiment to see how efficient taking it daily in small amounts is compared to occasionally.
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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: musiclover420]
#23767942 - 10/24/16 07:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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For me it took about a year of daily dosing for the significant WD to develop.
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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: musiclover420]
#23767951 - 10/24/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I only take a heaping spoonful a day and sometimes a little more and I still get withdrawals.
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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: musiclover420]
#23767956 - 10/24/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I applaud you for your will. Kratom is the only thing in my toolkit at this time, and I love the depth of the mu-opioid agonism you reach after 5g. I do know the farmers I've done business with have told me that they don't use any during the day, and then only use 1/2-1 teaspoon as a cup of tea in the evening which is 1-3g and they seem fairly consistent in their communication intelligence and look healthy in photos. I do think taking a day or two between your small doses will potentiate the feel as well as the freshness of novelty.
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Lophosaurus said: I only take a heaping spoonful a day and sometimes a little more and I still get withdrawals.
How long have you been dosing that? And is that a teaspoon or tablespoon?
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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: Khancious]
#23767980 - 10/24/16 07:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Part of it is I can't even stomach more then 3-4g in a day usually anything more then 2-3g at once often gives me more negative effects then positive.
When I first got into kratom and was buying old overpriced stuff I would eat closer to 5g sometimes and get a pretty solid euphoric buzz but I found regular smaller doses give me most of the same benefits without as intense of an "intoxication"/ buzz. What strains do you take 5g of? I have had super strong reds that gave me opiate sickness at like 2g 
It as a red horned strain and was the most sedating strain I have ever had, I think it was very high in 7-hydroxymitragynine or whatever.
I have been trying to find a reliable Asian source or direct importer to get some deals off. I found some for 75-65$/kg and less but nothing reliable
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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: musiclover420]
#23768056 - 10/24/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Haha yeah I know what you mean. After 2 years of downing maybe 4-5 kilos I've gotten used to it.
I have green horn, white horn and red horn in stock right now and they are all excellent, I just use a higher amount because of tolerance, and since I'm an addict though lately I dose in the later afternoon or evening because I find during the day testosterone is at it's peak and I revel in the innate energy of being a lively young male.
I remember I took 2 weeks off, then took 4g of the green horn at around 8pm, and my eyes were shutting themselves the rest of the night until 3am. Not something I like to advertise but I don't doubt you've experienced similar effects. I've never had any prescription opiates or adultered opium products like heroin so I can't compare but I was definitely nodding out from my receptors being drowned in the mitragynine.
We can chat in P.M. and maybe work something out since I am state-side.
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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: Khancious]
#23768060 - 10/24/16 07:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Been dosing like that for years with a month break here and there and I use a spoon that is close to tsp size
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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: musiclover420]
#23768090 - 10/24/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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My experience with physical addiction tells me that when you're at the point where you "need" to use to feel/believe you feel 100%, you're in over your head. How far? Idk, Idk u
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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: Khancious]
#23768091 - 10/24/16 08:03 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have not really used any opiates either but people do make the comparison pretty commonly. I got my mom to try it a few times and she said it felt like vicodin and ended up getting opiate nausea almost every time even just from a few g's! So it definitely can be potent its just way more self regulating then the things people compare it too.
I have gotten the droopy eyes before or sometimes I will have trouble focusing my eyes after a long day of working and taking kratom. But honestly that happens to me when I am really stoned or even just tired. I broke a bong once nodding off holding it slightly over the floor. I was just sitting in a chair and literally past out finally then dropped the bong and woke myself up 
Thankfully it was really old/ cheap so it wasn't a big deal at all.
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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: musiclover420]
#23769657 - 10/25/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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man, i need to i need to cut back on my krat. only dosing twice a day now and it's only been daily since mid september, sometimes A LOT. but fuck, i don't wanna go through wd's... at least i have extra benzos to help if i experience anything.
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Can you get gabapentin or pregabalin Sancho?
Does WONDERS for my kratom WD.
I take 7 break days out of every 2 weeks. 2-3 days at a time.
On my break days I take mementine to reset my opiate tolerance. I also take it on days I take kratom to prevent an increase in tolerance.
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Re: How long do kratom W/D take to develop? [Re: Moonshoe]
#23769684 - 10/25/16 11:23 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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oh i'm sure i could get that rx'd.
but i mean i've only been dosing daily for a lil over a month. even then though, like my hands were a lil clammy before i took my morning dose then i was all good. i noticed when i didn't take any krat to school yesterday, i was reeeally looking forward to get home to take some.
i have been fucking with dope, not recently, but i'm sure that has to do a bit with my situation.
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