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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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Bernie Planning To Be Thorn In Hillary's Side * 3
    #23766370 - 10/24/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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[“The leverage that I think I take into the Senate is taking on the entire Democratic Party establishment, and, you know, taking on a very powerful political organization with the Clinton people,” Sanders said. “We won 22 states and 46 percent of the pledged delegates, 13.4 million votes . . . and a majority of the younger people, the future of the country. . . . That gives me a lot of leverage, leverage that I intend to use.”





This is SO strange, because our resident conservatives are convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that Sanders has abdicated his life's work in order to be Hillary's lapdog. That is clearly not the case.


So lets get our disappointed asses to the polls, retake the Senate majority, get Bernie on as the Budget Chair, and scream our annoying naive radical liberal faces off for the next 4 years.


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Re: Bernie Planning To Be Thorn In Hillary's Side [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23766415 - 10/24/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
WaPo article


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[“The leverage that I think I take into the Senate is taking on the entire Democratic Party establishment, and, you know, taking on a very powerful political organization with the Clinton people,” Sanders said. “We won 22 states and 46 percent of the pledged delegates, 13.4 million votes . . . and a majority of the younger people, the future of the country. . . . That gives me a lot of leverage, leverage that I intend to use.”





This is SO strange, because our resident conservatives are convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that Sanders has abdicated his life's work in order to be Hillary's lapdog. That is clearly not the case.


So lets get our disappointed asses to the polls, retake the Senate majority, get Bernie on as the Budget Chair, and scream our annoying naive radical liberal faces off for the next 4 years.




So you'll get some liberal rhetoric will zero implementation for the next 4 years, you call that an accomplishment?

Hell, Obama called out the "fat cats on Wall Street" for 8 years, how did that workout for everybody? 

Bernie will serve as a useful relief valve for frustrated liberals, the people in power aren't stupid.


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Re: Bernie Planning To Be Thorn In Hillary's Side [Re: qman] * 2
    #23766419 - 10/24/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Bernie didnt take bribe money like Obama did, didnt get his first job from Henry Kissinger, how many more years are people going to make that lame ass comparison?


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Re: Bernie Planning To Be Thorn In Hillary's Side [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23766481 - 10/24/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Bernie didnt take bribe money like Obama did, didnt get his first job from Henry Kissinger, how many more years are people going to make that lame ass comparison?




"to the polls, retake the Senate majority"

Yeah, run to the polls and vote for those bought and paid for Democratic Senators!!  That will fix everything. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Bernie Planning To Be Thorn In Hillary's Side [Re: qman] * 2
    #23766504 - 10/24/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

No one ever claimed it would.

But the Dems actually have people in prominent places to achieve things this country wants achieved.

What good will a GOP president, a GOP Senate, a GOP Congress, and conservative Supreme Court justices do for liberals? At this point, I am literally in awe that I need to keep spelling this shit out.

No, Bernie isnt Obama.
No, Bernie doesnt suddenly like the establishment.
No, that establishment wont magically solve all our problems.

Anything else you need clarified?


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Re: Bernie Planning To Be Thorn In Hillary's Side [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23766714 - 10/24/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
No one ever claimed it would.

But the Dems actually have people in prominent places to achieve things this country wants achieved.

What good will a GOP president, a GOP Senate, a GOP Congress, and conservative Supreme Court justices do for liberals? At this point, I am literally in awe that I need to keep spelling this shit out.

No, Bernie isnt Obama.
No, Bernie doesnt suddenly like the establishment.
No, that establishment wont magically solve all our problems.

Anything else you need clarified?




"the Dems actually have people in prominent places to achieve things this country wants achieved"

And who are these independent people that will go against their sponsors?

Are these the same Dems who passed Obama care?


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Re: Bernie Planning To Be Thorn In Hillary's Side [Re: qman] * 1
    #23766834 - 10/24/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Most, yes.

Quote:

What good will a GOP president, a GOP Senate, a GOP Congress, and conservative Supreme Court justices do for liberals?




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Re: Bernie Planning To Be Thorn In Hillary's Side [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23766874 - 10/24/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Most, yes.





Good luck with that. I heard today Dennis Kucinich say the Republican Party is for Hillary Clinton, looks like you're going to have strange bedfellows. :lol:


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Re: Bernie Planning To Be Thorn In Hillary's Side [Re: qman] * 2
    #23766905 - 10/24/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Good. Let the GOP warm up to Hillary.

Their constinuents will vote them out and the Dems will have a supermajority by the midterms. And Hillary wont have any "they obstructed me!" cards to play.


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Re: Bernie Planning To Be Thorn In Hillary's Side [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23766948 - 10/24/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Good. Let the GOP warm up to Hillary.

Their constinuents will vote them out and the Dems will have a supermajority by the midterms. And Hillary wont have any "they obstructed me!" cards to play.




It won't really even matter, the MSM will give her a free pass just like Obama. 

Hell, Obama blamed Bush for the first 4 years of his Presidency, the MSM give him a pass for it.


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Re: Bernie Planning To Be Thorn In Hillary's Side [Re: qman]
    #23766970 - 10/24/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Elizabeth Warren is now campaigning with Hillary and telling the crowds how the Bankers should be get sent to jail, yet she knows Hillary is owned by Wall Street, what a joke. :huxleyfacepalm:


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Re: Bernie Planning To Be Thorn In Hillary's Side [Re: qman] * 2
    #23766971 - 10/24/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Whats Hillary gonna do, blame Obama?

Will the MSM then short circuit on who to protect?

Dont worry, there will be plenty of negative media for the president elected with the highest unfavorable rating in US history. But the pressure for her to govern as shes campaigned wont come from the lapdog media. Itll come from Bernie supporters and like minded liberals who are pushing their elected reps to do as promised.

Hillarys promised a whole hell of a lot in her first 100 days, but all that is null and void unless the Dems can manage a Senate majority. They do that, and good luck to the House Republicans (with a 9% approval rating) for voting down an amendment to overturn CU, or raise the federal min wage, or a tax increase on the rich, or a host of other agenda items the majority of Americans support.


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Re: Bernie Planning To Be Thorn In Hillary's Side [Re: qman] * 2
    #23766978 - 10/24/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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qman said:
Elizabeth Warren is now campaigning with Hillary and telling the crowds how the Bankers should be get sent to jail, yet she knows Hillary is owned by Wall Street, what a joke. :huxleyfacepalm:




Whats your point?

Liberals have two choices: Democrats or Republicans.


Please, make the case that liberals would be better served with a GOP white house, legislature, and court.

God damn. This is always the argument. "Yall libs are stupid for voting for corporate dems!" We've already established the reasons for doing so.


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Re: Bernie Planning To Be Thorn In Hillary's Side [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23766999 - 10/24/16 02:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Quote:

qman said:
Elizabeth Warren is now campaigning with Hillary and telling the crowds how the Bankers should be get sent to jail, yet she knows Hillary is owned by Wall Street, what a joke. :huxleyfacepalm:




Whats your point?

Liberals have two choices: Democrats or Republicans.


Please, make the case that liberals would be better served with a GOP white house, legislature, and court.

God damn. This is always the argument. "Yall libs are stupid for voting for corporate dems!" We've already established the reasons for doing so.




"What's your point?"

The political system is broken and listening to the rhetoric that you like to hear from bought and paid for Democrats is worthless. :shrug:

"make the case that liberals would be better served with a GOP"

I won't because they wouldn't. I'm giving Trump a vote, but on the other elections I'll be voting for 3rd parties.


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Re: Bernie Planning To Be Thorn In Hillary's Side [Re: qman] * 1
    #23767021 - 10/24/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Nobody is buying the rhetoric, thats the whole point.


Good luck voting third party.


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