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Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis
    #23766360 - 10/24/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hello everyone,

After searching through some threads and not finding a decisive answer surrounding anxiety after a bad trip - I decided to post.

This weekend I took +/-1gram of Golden Teachers mushrooms. I went into the trip a bit forced as my friend was overly-pressuring me to do shrooms with him. During my trip I began to feel nausea's and ran around a corner under some trees to throw-up. It was there that I started experiencing ego-death and thought that I'd never have my personality return again. This was absolutely terrifying for me and I immediately wanted the trip to end. This also led me into a mild existential crisis as I couldn't comprehend what living is actually about.

Luckily for me, ego death is of course temporary (which I didn't quite know about at the time) but what has lasted for the past 2 days is anxiety and a sense of many things being foreign. Last night I got a panic-attack and was easily agitated.

I got through the trip and eventually returned home where I realised I was in fact still tripping. This set-in feelings of isolation and a mindset of "I think I might be insane".

I'm extremely worried these symptoms will be permanent - and that, specifically, the anxiety will indefinitely continue.

Are these symptoms of worry and anxiety common within the week after tripping?
Is anxiety induced by shrooms usually permanent?
Do you have any recommendations to alleviate anxiety without the use of medication?
Would you recommend I do anything specific in terms of the circumstances I described to you, in order to alleviate my anxiety?

Thank you so much for your help. The bad trip I had was immensely traumatising for me - and I am in an intense state of worry surrounding my mental health.

I hope you all have a good day - and thanks.

-Jason

EDIT: It's 3 days after my trip and I'm still feeling anxious. A day after the trip I had a panic attack just as I tried to go to bed. I had to leave a family dinner and retreated to the bathroom after an embarrassingly odd need to just cry coupled with anxiety flooded over me. I'm still getting anxiety but today felt better than the day before. I'm going to seek professional treatment by the end if the week of things don't subside - thank you to those who gave their advice and shared their experiences.

EDIT 2: Massive update on what the trip has taught me and how my anxiety is practically gone is in the replies on PAGE 2. Thank you all for your help! <3


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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: Tortoisemuncher]
    #23766434 - 10/24/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Give it a couple of weeks to resolve.  If weed makes it worse then don't use it.


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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23766476 - 10/24/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm extremely worried these symptoms will be permanent - and that, specifically, the anxiety will indefinitely continue.



nothing is permanent my friend. This is the only thing we can be sure of as humans. I had a bad trip my first time too, with morning glories, it passed, day by day


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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23767102 - 10/24/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Psycadelics have a way of reflecting our attitude about using them back into the trip on us.  All my bad trips I was too eager for kinder affects and not an open lesson.  Either way once you start to learn what the trip was teaching it gets works out.


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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23769868 - 10/25/16 12:22 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Well I'm starting to think that the trip taught me to abstain from further drug use since I've just had anxiety and awful thought's for the past 3 days.


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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23769876 - 10/25/16 12:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Did it give you anxiety - and did you seek any treatment? How long did its negative effects last?


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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: Tortoisemuncher]
    #23769925 - 10/25/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hey man, sorry your intro into psychedelics had to be so abrupt.


A while back I had a similar experience after an acid and e trip. I thought it may have had something more to do with the e, but our stories are similar. About 4 days after the fact I had my first panic attack, and I was only lightly nervous. I dealt with a persistent anxious state in which I had ridiculous looping thoughts which would feed the anxiety in a feedback loop, and I was sore and shaky, afraid I would have another attack.

These are all symptoms of Generalized Anxiety Disorder, which may be caused in part by disruption of the seratonin system in the brain. Psilocin acts as excess seratonin in the brain, and e makes you release endogenous neurotransmitters. I honestly wouldn't expect you to have these symptoms after a mushroom trip from a chemical perspective, so you may have just freaked yourself out enough to feel this way.

Exercise, eating right, and seizing the day helped me get back to normal. Also look up cognitive behavioral therapy to help with bad mental states. Stay up man, hopefully in the future you can experience these things in a more positive way :smile:


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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: Bozko]
    #23770060 - 10/25/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hey man - I really appreciate the advice. The information on the disruption of the seratonin system was really interesting to me. I'm contemplating getting myself 5-htp (a seratonin booster) and just taking a low dose for a month or two - this could possibly help regulate my symptoms.

I am going to go see a psychologist by the end of the week and will hopefully receive CBT treatment - that is unless my anxiety disappears. Thank you so much for your help it really does mean a lot, man.


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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: Tortoisemuncher]
    #23771005 - 10/25/16 06:41 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

They say that anxiety and depression is caused by low serotonin.  They say high serotonin causes psychosis.  Truth is it's an imbalance.  5HT2a agonists such as found in psilocybe mushrooms mimic serotonin at one receptor class.

I would lay off the serotonin boosting chemicals.  Just let your brain find it's own balance.


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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: Tortoisemuncher]
    #23771788 - 10/25/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

As has been said, stay clean of all drugs as long as possible and allow your brain to reset. You'll be fine man. My few bad trips have left me equally fucked for a while, but they were many, many years ago now.

Out of curiosity, are you on any pharma meds?


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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23772250 - 10/26/16 03:42 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Dear Tortoisemuncher,

Please realize that

1. No, shrooms themselves don't "cause" anxiety, they may simply reveal your own underlying issues, for you to see and fix.

2. The trip worked perfectly, I mean you failed to stand your ground in the face of this friend who pushed you, and so the shrooms VERY SAFELY showed you, what happens when you step on your own gut feelings in order to accommodate others. Kindly don't do that, but I think you'll actually remember this quite vividly from now on, and when some other friend tries to force you into anything, at their timing not yours, you'll now know where to tell them to shove it :lol: Oh and please notice that the shrooms are in fact good, but here the timing was pushed on you before you felt ready, it's a timing issue not a shroom issue. Like sex, it's kinda bad if it's imposed on you before you feel you'd like to try it :smile:

3. No, the anxiety isn't permanent. It was revealed to you now, to be able to master it, and once you do, you will then reap the lesson the mush brought upon you, which is a more stable state of mind, more ability to deal with stress, internal and external. You are fine. You are in the middle of a lesson that may seem chaotic and weird and disturbing now, but any training worth going through will push you to some kind of limit, else you wouldn't grow from it.

Now, things to do.

Anxiety is generally a state of over-thinking under-moving under-breathing.

MOVE. Fucking RUN. Climb. Sprint. Climb trees. Shovel shit. Take that friend that pushed you towards shrooms, take two sticks and go play Star Wars together. The impact WILL help you rebalance again. Also the fact that you're pissed at this dude for pushing you into something you weren't really into, that needs to be expressed in a tactile way, not just verbally. Verbal does VERY little to release anything, whereas tactile does A LOT.

Put in MASSIVE amounts of movement on this. YOu need to be

1. Sweating
2. Gasping for air.

This will trigger endorphins, and balance you out in a multitude of ways.

Also, massage. Also, sex.

Swimming in a pool or lake or river, probably indoors makes more sense as it's nearing winter now. But electrically, you have to quit being in-your-head and start being in your body, BY USING IT. Lift some logs or weights or something, go throw a few kicks and punches in a ring with someone, or just regular playing tag in a group, will snap you out of it, at least for some time.

The more of these "snapped out of it" moments you have, the more you retrain your brain that oh yeah, I CAN feel relaxed and happy again, who knew? :lol:

We've all been there mate, we've all seen those hesitation and doubt moments, and PRECISELY because we've been through that and were forced to push through, to make it work, because of that we're now calmer, more composed, if it comes again fine, we've done it 4-5 times already and survived :smile:

Get a couple of sweating sessions (running doing shit, not sitting around in sauna) and a couple of massages and orgasms, you'll be good as new. Oh and express some fucking anger for a change. You have nothing you're pissed off and angry about in your life? Maybe the friend pushing? Mom? Dad? Work? Girlfriend or girls in general? Is there's nothing you want to smash some shit about? Cause I kiiiiiiiiiiiinda suspect there is, and it's pretty thick once you get going. I wonder I wonder, what has our little tortoise repressed during all those years before the shrooms brought it up? :smile:





I for one advise against the psychologist, just talking around beating around the bush, super slow costly method, when a more direct physical release will get you there for free. VERY easy to get into victim games, by this whole talking to the therapist dynamic, I mean I don't even want to know how much he charges per hour, and in fact the worse he is at it, the more sessions you need the more you have to return and pay them. Plus a shroomed human is working from a higher level of intelligence than a non-shroomed psychologist stuck in their ways, speaking from books.

I think you're starting to feel what I'm talking about here, that in the land of the shroom the urban therapist is often outgunned and outmatched, out of his league, whereas we beings who play here, are quite at home and offer faithful guidance to the light :wink:

Go with intuition my friend, always go with intuition and it will lead you true. Peace :heart:


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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23772259 - 10/26/16 03:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I take chela-fer once a day to treat my anaemia. I also take fexofenadine to treat my allergies. And lastly for the past 4 days I've been taking reuterino a pro-biotic as I was sick and had an upset stomach last week. Does anyone know if these drugs would impact my current psychological state?


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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: Tortoisemuncher]
    #23772288 - 10/26/16 04:09 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

The way you think about the world, get or not get into stressful situations or thought loops, and how long you stay in there, that affects your upset stomach / psych state more than a couple of pills you take, IMO at least. :shrug:


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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: They]
    #23772745 - 10/26/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If there is one thing my experience taught me, it is that if I were to have to live my life with that imbalance of chemicals, I would definitely seek SSRIs.

I don't think that OP is in this position, and I don't think that half the people that end up getting prescribed those meds need them, but still. This whole thing woke me up to what people with anxiety/depression have to deal with everyday and that is a hell.

They, I would read some of the work Oliver Sacks if you have the time. Ime, the best psychiatrist would have to be a psychonaut. Sacks is one of the few that could be said to have practiced what I would call a shamanistic psychiatry of sorts.


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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: Bozko]
    #23773602 - 10/26/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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if I were to have to live my life with that imbalance of chemicals, I would definitely seek SSRIs.




Why?

Ayahuasca gives long term increase in baseline serotonin levels. Why fuck up one's body with constant SSRI use, when you can Aya up for a couple of ceremonies and be fine, or certainly much better?


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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: Bozko] * 1
    #23774668 - 10/26/16 08:32 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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If there is one thing my experience taught me, it is that if I were to have to live my life with that imbalance of chemicals, I would definitely seek SSRIs.



REALLY?!?!?

Fuck that pharma poison, I've seen it do way more harm than good in my time. I would only ever resort to it if my, or someone elses life was on the line. But then I'd probably be locked up by that point anyway.

I've seen the effects of multiple SSRI/SNRI's and they're fucking nasty man.

But, after all, they suit our profit driven culture and inherent laziness, so it's little wonder they're as mainstream as they are. In a sane society, I would not be able to walk into my doctors and walk out with pharma poison like that without rigorous examination of other aspects of my life. As it is, they hand them out like sweets.


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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23775242 - 10/26/16 11:42 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:

I've seen the effects of multiple SSRI/SNRI's and they're fucking nasty man.






In there lies the rub. The looming patent cliff is what fuels the creation of new drugs, not necessity. I don't think all SSRIs are equal, and I agree they can mess people up badly. I knew a girl with a permanent tic from Paxil.


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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: Bozko]
    #23775665 - 10/27/16 05:40 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Exactly. It's a corrupt, money making game, and it's worth BILLIONS. I actually used to work for one of the biggest pharma companies in the world, and what I know now, that I did not know then, is that in the world in which we live profit ALWAYS overrides the good of the individual.

I mean some of these things have been shown to cause an INCREASE in suicide rates to people prescribed them. Then there's all the brain fog, brain zaps, RLS, etc, etc.

They provide a huge cashflow to some of the most powerful companies in the world, and because of this they're handed with careless abandon to people who really should not be on them. As an absolute last resort, they may offer some help, but there are many, many other ways of correcting out of whack brain chemistry.

But of course they don't want you to know about, let alone have access to them. Hence why we have things like the Psychoactive Substances bill in this country. Insidious and corrupt as fuck, which is why I'd have to be fucking insane before I took any part in it.


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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: Bozko]
    #23776198 - 10/27/16 10:22 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Paxil is a fucked up drug.

Trazadones human metabolite is illegal in several countries.

I fail to see the illegal/legal drug philosophy make sense.


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    #23777463 - 10/27/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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I fail to see the illegal/legal drug philosophy make sense.



Of course it doesn't. It's rooted in greed and control.


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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23779538 - 10/28/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

What I don't get is they think euphoria equals addiction and making bad choices.  All I know is usually when I have a strong and as pure as possible euphoria I am very chill. 

Current drug philosophy is much like a wishing well.


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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: Tortoisemuncher] * 1
    #23779939 - 10/28/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Before I stop replying to this thread like a complete dickhead, leaving others experiencing this completely lost - here's a presumably final update on post-trip life:

It's been 6 days after my initial trip now, and a few things have happened. Before I elaborate I'd like to thank everyone on this forum for being friendly, and offering their help. All of you helped and allowed me to get through this confusing/scary period of my life.
You all have been an amazing source of information and support.

In terms of what has happened:
1. The Anxiety
As a lot of you fore-told my anxiety has eased. Things have only gotten better since Sunday night when I had a panic attack. Tuesday night was a bit of a struggle for me after I had an overwhelming urge to break-down and sob during a social gathering. I was ready to call-quits and just go straight to a psychologist to ease it, but I instead looked for the support from close friends. After talking openly about the subject of anxiety with many friends, I decided that immediately seeking the help of a psychologist could be a waste of money and an ineffective solution.

I talked through the trip with the friend I did it with, who also had a similar experience in terms of ego death + a generally bad trip. I also spoke to two close friends who suffer from anxiety, and they reinforced that things would indeed get better. After reading replies on the forum I realised that a lot of anxiety is just essentially a bad thought loop. If I felt/feel anxious I slowly breathe in for 5-8 counts, hold it for the same time and then breathe out, whilst changing my thoughts to something extremely positive. This worked like a charm and suffocated my anxiety substantially.

I also decided to go out and do more; I walked down to a field just below me everyday to watch the sunset and get in touch with my own thoughts in a good environment. I took photo's of things I found pleasant, and listened to music that made me feel good. Standing up from endlessly laying on my bed, anxiously killing time on my phone made me feel a lot better. Every sane moment where I would completely forget about anxiety, made me feel all the saner.

By talking through, and tackling what mentally challenging things I experienced, I helped to alleviate the anxiety. But I think it just truly takes time to lift.

2. Life lessons
Let me just tell you that I did not think magic mushrooms would actually teach me anything just a few days ago. I thought that magic mushrooms were just a dumb traumatising hallucinogenic, but I now feel as if this whole experience has taught me a lot (whether you agree with it or not).

I'm actually glad shrooms fucked me up the way they did. It scared the shit out of me, before I got to move onto substances that would offer extreme risks of addiction or drugs that would do permanent/lethal damage. Weed, mushrooms, poppers or any psychoactive drug aren't necessary for me and are a burden to my lifestyle. The experience made me realise that mind-altering substances are dangerous things, and should be treated with caution. I don't think I'm going to touch psycho-active substances again.

Mushrooms also gave me a more open perspective in terms of appreciating nature and life. I tripped in an open field in a forest, with an amazing view. During the trip there were all sorts of insects amongst us, and a few spiders too. I had a deep phobia of spiders before the trip, but now dealing with them is a ton easier. I appreciate them a lot more, and realised that they're just trying to live out life as much as I am. During the trip I actually had a cool blackish lizard appear from nowhere and climb on my leg. It made me appreciate nature and animals.

Mushrooms taught me not to take sanity for granted. My mental state is something very balanced, and I'm very comfortable with myself. Temporarily losing this, made me realise that not everyone has a clear head. Some people battle with their mental state, and suffer heavily from depression/anxiety/or other mental illness. You can't always see the ones that are suffering, and people go through a lot more than what you see on the surface.

They taught me to appreciate my abilities to interact with people, be forward and not feel social awkwardness. I can integrate myself into a social situation very easily, and a lot of people can't. Before the trip I never really realised that people feel shyness and do have trouble talking and commmunicating with one another. They also showed me that anger and expression is good, and sometimes holding back is good but hell, other times completely expressing your issue and discomfort with someone is satisfying too. If you have a problem with someone, bring it up.

It was a life-changing experience, but I doubt I'd ever do it again. It made me re alise I like myself, and don't want myself to change. I like my happy routine I've built, although it may just lead to my eventual death in this world. My routine is something I've carefully built, and the things I do give me purpose. I also have an amazing set of friends that I've chosen carefully, and that I value. Had I gotten schizophrenia or permanent effects - nearly losing friends over substance abuse is something that makes me upset.

Finally, it made me appreciate my SO - I don't think I would've been able to recover from this state without the thought of her, her ability to understand my situation and the way she can make me forget about anxiety and the bad trip. I take for granted how lucky I am to have someone as lovely as her.

In conclusion, shrooms changed my perspective in life. It made me realise that I like my current life, and don't actually want much to change. I should be grateful of my amazing mental state, friends, SO and of my life as a whole. It taught me that these substances I use should be respected, and I myself don't feel as though I'm going to use magic mushrooms again. If you're reading this and haven't tried magic mushrooms - if you feel you're mentally ready for it, I wouldn't tell you not to. Psychoactive substances like weed or hallucinogenics just aren't the thing for me.

Thank you all for your help - this truly is a wonderful community.


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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: Tortoisemuncher] * 1
    #23780148 - 10/28/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Tuesday night was a bit of a struggle for me after I had an overwhelming urge to break-down and sob during a social gathering. I was ready to call-quits and just go straight to a psychologist to ease it, but I instead looked for the support from close friends. After talking openly about the subject of anxiety with many friends, I decided that immediately seeking the help of a psychologist could be a waste of money and an ineffective solution.



This right here :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

After some years of tripping, observing, meditating, some awesome trips some debatable, I have concluded that many (most?) people would go to absolutely extreme lengths to avoid breaking down and giving it a good cry for a few hours, letting go.

A nation, nay a species of urban dwellers, that are prepared to smoke, distract, medicate, talk-talk-talk until their tongues are dry, anything BUT break down and actually cry in the fetal position for some number of hours, which is in fact precisely what is needed in order to move past whatever burden they have.

I have seen people engaged in decades of smoking/drinking/therapy, in order to avoid what to me looks like a cumulative 10-20 hours of crying, tops, that they are carrying inside. But they will postpone that for decades if they can, ruining their health and life experience in the process. That's why I like psychedelics, because they make further procrastination on these matters impossible. Whatever you have WILL come out, and come out now.

All internal tensions are finite. Once you let them out you can breathe again, smile and appreciate the colorful magic, the fullness of life. As long as you continuously try to fake like your insides are fine when they're in fact not, you will feel like a shallow mask, feel like a lie. That's why breaking down and crying (or screaming, howling at the moon, breaking things, any form of real catharsis) is so liberating.

OP I advise you to give it a few weeks or months and then reconsider your decision to never do shrooms again. I've had trips similar to yours (for instance after heavy break-ups, weeks or months of tension in my system) and I know that this sort of trip is simply clearing the airfield, for the motherships to land in subsequent trips. You've done the cleaning work and are now about to quit psychedelics just when things are about to get good :smile:

Of course you honor your intuition and do as you feel, I am just sharing my perspective here.

At the very least, if now you see someone else having a difficult trip you'll know from experience to reassure them, that the anxiety doesn't last. Probably helped you as well, to know that you're not made of glass and won't shatter under some trembling and anxiety, as you release the tensions within. We've all been there mate, makes you stronger :heart:

Here is a musical gift for you, as thank you for sharing this online journey with us :laugh:



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Re: Help with Post-trip anxiety: First-time psychedelic trip caused Ego Death + Existential Crisis [Re: They]
    #23783621 - 10/29/16 07:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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They said:

After some years of tripping, observing, meditating, some awesome trips some debatable, I have concluded that many (most?) people would go to absolutely extreme lengths to avoid breaking down and giving it a good cry for a few hours, letting go.

A nation, nay a species of urban dwellers, that are prepared to smoke, distract, medicate, talk-talk-talk until their tongues are dry, anything BUT break down and actually cry in the fetal position for some number of hours, which is in fact precisely what is needed in order to move past whatever burden they have.

I have seen people engaged in decades of smoking/drinking/therapy, in order to avoid what to me looks like a cumulative 10-20 hours of crying, tops, that they are carrying inside. But they will postpone that for decades if they can, ruining their health and life experience in the process. That's why I like psychedelics, because they make further procrastination on these matters impossible. Whatever you have WILL come out, and come out now.

All internal tensions are finite. Once you let them out you can breathe again, smile and appreciate the colorful magic, the fullness of life. As long as you continuously try to fake like your insides are fine when they're in fact not, you will feel like a shallow mask, feel like a lie. That's why breaking down and crying (or screaming, howling at the moon, breaking things, any form of real catharsis) is so liberating.





And this right here. <3

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