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Shrooms not working after DMT trip? (cross tolerance??)
    #23766082 - 10/24/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hey, so me and my girlfriend had our first DMT trip yesterday using 50mg smoked. About 30 mins - 1hr we took 2.5g of shrooms each which for us is a fair amount as our tolerances are both pretty low to most drugs. For her it only felt like a 1 - 1.5g trip and for me it only felt like a very strong microdose.

I grew these mushrooms myself about 2 months ago, they are cracker dry, stored in an airtight jar in a dark cool draw. I have tripped fairly hard off this exact same batch a few weeks ago on the same 2.5g dose.

So is there some cross tolerance or something? I have read something of the opposite of people having mad trips after DMT.

And it definitely wasnt just because DMT made shrooms feel weak in comparison because a few hours later we smoked some weed and we tripped pretty hard of that with full acid closed eyed visuals and everything looked trippy.

Im just curious, we still had a great time though regardless.

Thanks in advance.

Peace,

Echo


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Re: Shrooms not working after DMT trip? (cross tolerance??) [Re: Ech0] * 1
    #23766202 - 10/24/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Yes there is a cross tolerance issue. You probably should have eatin the shrooms first then smoked the dmt about 25-30 mins after that. That way the actives in the shrooms haven't worked their way into your system yet and you're still in time for the compounding effect. Psilocin is 4-hydroxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine and it convertd to psilocybin in the body, or vice versa, either way they're both dmt derivatives, so there is a compounding effect and a cross tolerance. I believe dmt buildd the tolerance threshold faster than the hydroxilized version in shrooms tho, if I'm not mistaken(don't quote me on that part unless you get the same from someone more qualified on the chemistry side of it).


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Re: Shrooms not working after DMT trip? (cross tolerance??) [Re: thebug76]
    #23766322 - 10/24/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not so sure about that actually, because DMT doesn't really have much of a tollerance, it goes away in a matter of an hour or less. For example even with ayahuasca the same dosage can be taken for days without noticable tollerance increase, in my experience, but perhaps a science guy can help.
It could also be just the mental shift.. once I smoked jwh, followed by salvia divinorum extract, and then an hour later I took a large doses of HBWR that had a month earlier been incredibly strong for me, and I did not get much psychoactive effects from it.


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Re: Shrooms not working after DMT trip? (cross tolerance??) [Re: 999]
    #23766619 - 10/24/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

DMT does not have the same kind of tolerance as other Psychedelics... As in having to wait a week to get back to baseline.

But some people say it does have a tolerance for maybe an hour or so after smoking it. So that could have been what happened.

It's confusing though... Because for me, I get no tolerance to DMT whatsoever. I can smoke it again right after coming down and have another full-on breakthrough... BUT. I vape my DMT.

I've heard that something about the combustion of smoked DMT vs vaped DMT causes tolerance when smoked. But not when it's pure vapor.

So it's really confusing and I think the reason people report having tolerance and others report no tolerance might be because of that. I think it's still kind of unknown though.

If you smoked your DMT then I'd say you could have had tolerance. Maybe. If you vaporized it, I'd say that couldn't be why.


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Re: Shrooms not working after DMT trip? (cross tolerance??) [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23766960 - 10/24/16 02:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Definitely eat the shrooms first.. Then smoke the DMT at the peak of your mushroom trip if you can.. With a big dose of shrooms sometimes this is not possible.. The magic number for me seemed to be about two grams of cubes so I still somewhat had my wits about me enough to actually accomplish the task of smoking dmt.. The experience is absolutely ridiculous but somewhat hard to recollect on once it's over..


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Re: Shrooms not working after DMT trip? (cross tolerance??) [Re: Space Coast Slayer]
    #23767773 - 10/24/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

There is definitely a huge tolerance at play there.  Not like taking mushrooms a few days in a row, and even far from taking ayahuasca and then taking mushrooms one day later.

Smoked dmt causes tolerance with mushrooms, but 20 minutes of smoking dmt is not going to get in the way of your mushroom trip.  It can even have reverse tolerance.


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Re: Shrooms not working after DMT trip? (cross tolerance??) [Re: Onlylivingboy]
    #23770029 - 10/25/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the replies, sorry i didnt make it clear, by "smoked" i meant vaporized.

Its so confusing and seems this isnt too documented as many people say the complete opposite and others agree.

To me it makes sense that tolerance would be high, im sure DMT works the receptors pretty hard? but i havent really looked into any of that just a bit of a guess.

I will experiment with the shrooms in 2 weeks when tolerance is normal to see whether they have degraded or it was really the DMT.


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