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Should I take mushrooms in my situation? (Ego death)
    #23765641 - 10/23/16 11:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hey guys! So I'm a little young to be taking mushrooms in my opinion but I have already (2 "successful" trips) and I am very eager to learn. For the past year or so I have been on a minor quest for knowledge and up until about 3-5 months ago my mind felt another blindfold lifted. Ever since this started I began to wonder if I may be ready for my first ego death. I'm not going boast about my knowledge but I feel that I have learned a lot. What do you guys think? I've heard the first one is the most powerful. Any questions? Thanks!


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Re: Should I take mushrooms in my situation? (Ego death) [Re: Zathador114] * 1
    #23765661 - 10/23/16 11:35 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

This is like asking other people to tell you what your favorite color is. Only you can know the answer. In this particular case you, like most anyone else out there, cannot even know the answer to whether or not they are ready for a full ego death experience. Yes, you can read tons of trip reports, but until you go through it, you have absolutely no clue as to how your ego death will unfold and how you will handle it.

I would say keep exploring. You have only had two "successful" trips? How many "unsuccessful" trips have you gone through? I know it's very, very tempting to just dive into all of this, but care should be taken. Especially when you're talking about going as deep as ego death.

Psychedelics aren't a race. You yourself say that you're a little young for this which to my mind indicates a certain level of trepidation, fear, or even an understanding that you may not be quite ready. Take it slow and find out where your personal limits are. The experiences will always be available to you, just a few grams away so there should be no rush. It's remarkably easy to get in way over your head because of a bit of bravado or impatience.


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Re: Should I take mushrooms in my situation? (Ego death) [Re: fractaloctopus]
    #23765711 - 10/23/16 11:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Haha I kinda figured I might get an answer like that. I have had two level 1's and two level 3's. I see myself as just a few years older than I really am which creates that impatience.


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Re: Should I take mushrooms in my situation? (Ego death) [Re: fractaloctopus]
    #23765713 - 10/24/16 12:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You make it sound like its something you order at a fast food drive through.

Ego death can happen on doses as low as 1 gram if the person is actually prepared in special ways.

Also it can sometimes but not always be forced, and if it is forced it isnt always Ego Death, but more psychosis or just delusional thinking with massive visual distortion, far more likely for bad trips that way.

Why do you ask a forum such a crucial question, go ask some monks or priests or your parents if your serious, if you cant your probably not fit for it at this time in life - that is my very biased opinion.

Who cares anyways It wont teach you anything you dont already know.


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Re: Should I take mushrooms in my situation? (Ego death) [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23765732 - 10/24/16 12:11 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's not that I don't already know it, it's just that knowledge hasn't had the chance to slap me in the face yet. :laugh:


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Re: Should I take mushrooms in my situation? (Ego death) [Re: Zathador114]
    #23765895 - 10/24/16 03:26 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You say you're too young probably. How young (not exact, we don't want too much info)? pick one of these groups:

A. Way too fucking young.

B. 16 - 19

C. 20 -25

If you picked c, you're probably not too young and some people even start sooner. However, at young ages, it's generally just party trips, not serious as far as spirituality goes.

Also, do you have strong religious beliefs? If not, you may be ok. Most religions, such as christianity for one example, are extremely closed minded and only accept things one way. If you have strong religious beliefs engrained, or entrained, however you want to put it, and have been raised that way from birth, an ego death trip could really mess with your head.

I promise if you go looking for that level of trip, you're going to see things and have ideas opened up to you that you could've never imagined. That was the weird part for me, I asked the shrooms to show me the truth about life and existence. Now let me say, I have studied many religions and mythologies and have opened my mind to accepting that any of those, or none, could be the truth about creation. What it showed me was something I have never studied about or imagined, it was so unreal yet real at the same time.

If you have those strong beliefs that I was talking about, you may want to spend some time learning some basics and understandings of other religions first to help open your mind to alternate possibilities, rather than just a simple "do it this way or go to hell" spiritual mindset.

I'm kind of fucked up and feeling like I'm starting to ramble. Hope what I said makes sense to you.

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Re: Should I take mushrooms in my situation? (Ego death) *DELETED* [Re: thebug76]
    #23765928 - 10/24/16 04:12 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Should I take mushrooms in my situation? (Ego death) [Re: DerPda]
    #23766421 - 10/24/16 10:55 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)



really though you just haven't explained your situation in any way that would give some knowledgeable and experienced person who is not off his rocker and steady in normal life anything measurable to go by. Your "situation" as presented in OP Post is just cryptic and yea.. no one can make a great guess with info like that imho. 

Try again! but with age, gender, general location on earth, education level, religious upbringing, religious/spiritual current status, basic work sector, family life! (healthy, abusive, adopted) history of drug use, reason for drug use ( self medication, consciousness exploration/expansion , hedonistic abandon into pleasure ha). 

Even then after all that .  This is a public forum my man!  Your asking random strangers if you should eat some random mushrooms from god knows where grown by who knows what.  :facepalm: . It sends a hilarious shiver down my spine thinking this is how its done now a days.  Cool stuff!


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Re: Should I take mushrooms in my situation? (Ego death) [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23766575 - 10/24/16 12:01 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Hello again! I want to apologize for asking such a broad question with little to no extra info about myself or my said "situation". To answer "thebug76" question; I am between the ages of 18-20. Like I previously said, I am very hungry for knowledge and have a very opened mind. Listen, I know this might be my ego talking but I'm not your average early 20 year old who just wants that great party. I am a male living in NW US, I grew with Cristian beliefs but a healthy dose of cannabis and mind opening articles quickly changed my head. As far as my family life goes, I don't have any parents discouraging me from any type of experience, my slightly older sister wants an ego death too and right now we are talking about making some changes in our lives i.e. living less off money and being more self sustaining. The main reason I asked this question I guess is for some advice from people in a similar situation or who can just relate and reflect their experience with me. Trust me I don't plan on taking mushrooms at any specific point in time but usually when I'm ready they will be thrown in my face more or less. :tongue:

humansarefree.com please check it out!


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Re: Should I take mushrooms in my situation? (Ego death) [Re: Zathador114]
    #23766615 - 10/24/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think you really understand what you're asking for? An ego death is an eye opening experience, but I'd never want it on purpose. It's too scary and can really mess with your mental state.

Like Blind Ass said too, it can't be forced, and you never know when it'll come. If you try to seek it out, you'll definitely have a bad time. Good luck, my friend.


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Re: Should I take mushrooms in my situation? (Ego death) [Re: Zathador114]
    #23766616 - 10/24/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It wont be ego-death anyways.  It will be like "ego goes to sleep for a few hours". Death is ego death. Your trying to see what your like when part of your brain that identifies with self referential space/form turns off? Bc thats about whats happening in "psychedelic ego-sleep".
Similar, like a glimpse of what is or will be when not embodied i suppose idk really.

It has no use for finishing your education, no use for working a steady job, and no use for being able to fit in socially.

As a last ditch effort before ego sleep your brain will try and trick itself via using deep seeded archytypal-mythico-relgio-cultural-mixed with personal twists from your experience in life up till that point .  Do you know what yours will look like?  Will it take a Catholic matrix form?

A Buddhist one? A Shamanic One? A Islamic One? An Atheistic scientific quantum/ biological one? A naturally primordial pantheism one? Alien experiment? or a purely Recreational Drug delusional one?

How will you know unless youv studied those wisdom traditions and yourself before hand?  who cares if your ego "dies" because it will come back if its from a drug just as sure as when u go to bed u wake up in the morning and your there, only this time you'll reintegrate and interpret the "experience" from one of the above mentioned basis.

memory of the experience will be foggy and thats what you;ll remember which is subject to change and at the end of it all is just another dream.  Thing is the experience itself and memory of it mainly usually becomes a hinderance to those who havent the proper stability in life nor the right "background" ,  Imagine if its to powerful and you have no words for it and run around town yelling "Im God" because thats the only way you know hhow to describe it even though that doesnt really fit the bill.  People can lock you up as mad.  Tread carefully.  I have seen monks become stuck on their insight experiences and glimpses of enlightenment without drugs, why would you fare any better?  Good luck regardless!


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Re: Should I take mushrooms in my situation? (Ego death) [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23768000 - 10/24/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Both of you have given me a new perspective. I guess what I'm ultimately looking for is non-conceptional knowledge and I know an ego death/sleep to open a door for that. But for now I will wait patiently and with good vibes. Yes technically there is no such thing as an "ego-death" but everyone knows what I'm referring to so there is no need for all that. I also understand that different drugs give you different types of ego deaths. Anyone with such experience?


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Re: Should I take mushrooms in my situation? (Ego death) [Re: Zathador114]
    #23768059 - 10/24/16 07:52 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

It's so true that people can handle tripping at higher doses..
Def don't want to gamble and eat too much..
I was tripping hard from .5g..
Prob should have cloned it cause It kicked everyone's ass


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Re: Should I take mushrooms in my situation? (Ego death) [Re: keifnnugs]
    #23768142 - 10/24/16 08:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

OP
There is no enlightenment. Only the bending of truth. That is what happens when you take some LSD or shrooms. You unlock a key to a realm only just outside your capability of reaching, Which is a realm held sacred. What lies beyond in that realm, will never be fully revealed. You Physically do not have enough "bodily senses" to unlock the mysteries of these hidden rooms.

An example. Everything is light. You look at an electro-magnetic spectrum and it gives you a reading upon light. You can call that spectrum your mind for a brief moment. Your head currently without drugs read a color like purple and dark blue.But when you take something like LSD or shrooms, it shifts the color on the spectrum. So instead of seeing you mind as purple and dark blue, it morphs into a light blue and maybe even green (the next color in line on the spectrum.)
What I am saying is that you will lose the idea of one thing, and only gain access to another "idea" But the "idea" still came from the same place.
Ideally, I think it is something you shouldn't do until you think that you have lost grip of that educed reality from a drug. "I would find you 10x cooler if you made it something you did only once in 5 years" Tripping shrooms, is just like walking through the first door inside of a pyramid. Are you going to keep taking shrooms and try to keep unlocking doors inside this pyramid? Or are you going to solve the great mystery in just a couple of unlocked doors.

As far as loss of ego goes, I think there is many of other cool things you can do as an accomplishment of ego death. Marrying somebody is considered to be ego death. You're giving your life to this person. Or even becoming "apart" of somebody others religion for a short while, is another idea of ego death. Doing things for a cause greater than your own. And that is the biggest most spiritual improvement you will ever gain.

As far as everything goes, I hope you find to understand what it is that stirs these feelings and thoughts in your restless mind, I hope that if you can understand why some things stir such thoughts and ideas in your mind and that you will challenge yourself.

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Re: Should I take mushrooms in my situation? (Ego death) [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #23769402 - 10/25/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The Blind Ass said:
It wont be ego-death anyways.  It will be like "ego goes to sleep for a few hours". Death is ego death. Your trying to see what your like when part of your brain that identifies with self referential space/form turns off? Bc thats about whats happening in "psychedelic ego-sleep".
Similar, like a glimpse of what is or will be when not embodied i suppose idk really.

It has no use for finishing your education, no use for working a steady job, and no use for being able to fit in socially.

As a last ditch effort before ego sleep your brain will try and trick itself via using deep seeded archytypal-mythico-relgio-cultural-mixed with personal twists from your experience in life up till that point .  Do you know what yours will look like?  Will it take a Catholic matrix form?

A Buddhist one? A Shamanic One? A Islamic One? An Atheistic scientific quantum/ biological one? A naturally primordial pantheism one? Alien experiment? or a purely Recreational Drug delusional one?

How will you know unless youv studied those wisdom traditions and yourself before hand?  who cares if your ego "dies" because it will come back if its from a drug just as sure as when u go to bed u wake up in the morning and your there, only this time you'll reintegrate and interpret the "experience" from one of the above mentioned basis.

memory of the experience will be foggy and thats what you;ll remember which is subject to change and at the end of it all is just another dream.  Thing is the experience itself and memory of it mainly usually becomes a hinderance to those who havent the proper stability in life nor the right "background" ,  Imagine if its to powerful and you have no words for it and run around town yelling "Im God" because thats the only way you know hhow to describe it even though that doesnt really fit the bill.  People can lock you up as mad.  Tread carefully.  I have seen monks become stuck on their insight experiences and glimpses of enlightenment without drugs, why would you fare any better?  Good luck regardless!




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