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Re: Shotgun Terrarium Tek [Re: AgarStudent]
    #23763606 - 10/23/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It's no different than fruiting a mono where you're only fruiting the top. Except each bag is about 1/3 of a mono inoculated with 1 qt of grains. I get over 5 dry ounces from each bag in 2 flushes then toss them. Which is pretty damn good from 1qt of grains. The mushrooms will continue to come up through the casing layer after harvest. After a couple flushes if you really want to you can then remove the block easily from the bag after it's shrank a bit. Then dunk(and roll if you want) it and put back in fruiting conditions to get more fruits. It's way easier to dunk these blocks than a monotub substrate.


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Re: Shotgun Terrarium Tek [Re: Juiceh]
    #23764794 - 10/23/16 05:10 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Okay.  What sized spawn bags are you using for that?


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Re: Shotgun Terrarium Tek [Re: Juiceh]
    #23764851 - 10/23/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Shotgun Terrarium Tek [Re: Space Coast Slayer]
    #23764893 - 10/23/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Either way that must be some massive fruiting chamber!


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Re: Shotgun Terrarium Tek [Re: AgarStudent]
    #23765141 - 10/23/16 07:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's a green house my man


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Re: Shotgun Terrarium Tek [Re: PortabellaFella 1]
    #23765472 - 10/23/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ah okay.  That explains why you can have the bag upright ond not jabbing up against the lid of your sgfc!


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Re: Shotgun Terrarium Tek [Re: AgarStudent]
    #23765690 - 10/23/16 11:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Okay.  What sized spawn bags are you using for that?



5" X 4" X 18" with a .2 µm filter

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Ah okay.  That explains why you can have the bag upright ond not jabbing up against the lid of your sgfc!



These can be fruited in a SGFC with no issue. I give family members bags of gourmet species to fruit in their own SGFCs all the time.


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Re: Shotgun Terrarium Tek [Re: AgarStudent]
    #23765887 - 10/24/16 03:09 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Ah okay,

Thanks for fleshing that out.
I have actually never pasteurised a substrate before.
My last success with cubes was based on using monotubs, in which I was using coir/verm 50/50 and basically sterilised everything except the grain.  I never had a contam issue with cubes.

I have heard that pasturised poo substrates are a bit tougher and are working on that one.
Hopefully someone can help me out with that - it is a different post.

I can see in your post that you have the spawn bags going - If you just cut the top off them, then your only fruiting that top bit.  How do you maximise your yield, by allowing the rest of your colonised substrate to fruit? Does the bit that fruits mean that you cut the bag a bit lower after each flush until all of the substrate is used up?

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You used half coir half verm as bulk? Why so much verm?


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Re: Shotgun Terrarium Tek [Re: NDStepp84]
    #23766034 - 10/24/16 06:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Oh that was based on the following tek.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595

I figured that poo might be a superior growth medium, so I decided to follow RR's video guide on pasteurising poo bulk substrate and also casings.

With pan cyans and mexicana, I thought that poo was an evolutionary step forward, and might have more contamination resistance.  It is hard to get some shit that is properly composted though!

If you use your bags in the SGFC, do you just position it sideways and slit it along the length and apply a bit of casing?  It just seems like if you only fruit the top bit, then you throw away a bit of colonised material before it has all been used up?

It sounds like you have the small spawn bags, which are the same size as mine.
If I put one of these bags upright in my 60-quart SGFC, it would not fit.  The tub is less than 18" high.


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Re: Shotgun Terrarium Tek [Re: AgarStudent]
    #23766041 - 10/24/16 06:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Don't use poo unless you're fucking with cyans.
Cubes will do just as well with coir. There's no need to be messing around with poo.. especially sterilizing it


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Re: Shotgun Terrarium Tek [Re: AgarStudent]
    #23766062 - 10/24/16 06:57 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Oh that was based on the following tek.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595



That's not a 50/50 tek.

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If you use your bags in the SGFC, do you just position it sideways and slit it along the length and apply a bit of casing?  It just seems like if you only fruit the top bit, then you throw away a bit of colonised material before it has all been used up?

It sounds like you have the small spawn bags, which are the same size as mine.
If I put one of these bags upright in my 60-quart SGFC, it would not fit.  The tub is less than 18" high.



They are "medium" bags. By the time you put the bag in your SGFC you have already trimed away the top of the bag, so they fit easily. I have also colonized the bags sideways by positioning the bags inside a home depot 3 gallon roughneck container with the filter up. Once they colonize in this position they will hold the shape of the bin and can be removed from the bin. Why are you so worried about only fruiting the top? It's no different than fruiting a monotub with a liner. You will get all your fruits through the casing layer like normal. As I said before if you want you can take the substrate out of the bag to continue fruiting after a couple flushes and it has shrank away from the bag.


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Re: Shotgun Terrarium Tek [Re: Juiceh]
    #23766068 - 10/24/16 07:01 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah like CBK said don't mess with sterilized hpoo. Pasteurized is much better.


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