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Cagney
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Re: Second Grow attemp ever, experienced shroomery users help please! [Re: patcorr_2001]
#23959783 - 12/27/16 04:38 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's hard to tell what you are talking about without a pic of the "slimy" caps. Most caps that are moist are slimy. I would personally take those fruits out of the fridge and lay in the open air where they will start drying. I think you're fine to eat them myself. Way too early for them to go bad.
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Re: Second Grow attemp ever, experienced shroomery users help please! [Re: enlightenment]
#23959853 - 12/27/16 06:32 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I did print the caps right away. I pulled the caps from the stems , stored the stems in the refrigerator and put 4 caps ontop of pieces of fool in my SAB.
Good to know I can make multiple prints with a cap thanks love learning more and more about this hobby
I should have more than I need for this strain with 4 prints though will be drying the caps / stems later today. What's the minimum time a cap should stay to make a decent print?
I was misting 2-3 times a day depending on condition , Sometimes misting the fruits directly because of they're placement on the cake , but will be way more careful of that ffrom now on. Thanks
Update : I just weighed all my wet mushrooms (minus 4 caps printing) and the weight was just under 28G with caps I'm guessing weight would of been closer to 35 since one of the caps is huge .
Here is my first spore print I've ever taken does it look good enough , I left the cap on the foil for about 20 hours . Still have 3 more smaller caps making prints in the SAB

Out of curiosity , how would you start a grow from this lol? Like can I make myself an MS syringe with it? I'll google a tek if so just wanted to know . And if so is that the best way to make use of a print?
Edited by patcorr_2001 (12/27/16 09:54 AM)
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Cagney
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Re: Second Grow attemp ever, experienced shroomery users help please! [Re: patcorr_2001]
#23960152 - 12/27/16 10:22 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes, you could make quite a few syringes with it, just follow the Tek. With 35 grams wet you should be looking at around 3 grams dry. I usually leave my caps on the foil for 24-36 hours, I don't know how long others do it. But one print can make a lot of syringes.
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Re: Second Grow attemp ever, experienced shroomery users help please! [Re: Cagney]
#23960354 - 12/27/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Don't google a tek it'll either give you some terrible tek or send you back here. Utse click search our forum then tick trusted cultivators less that 5 years old then type in your search. You will get the best teks and advice Best use for a print is get it on agar then clean it up then expand to grains or lc etc.
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Re: Second Grow attemp ever, experienced shroomery users help please! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23960715 - 12/27/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alright cool thanks guys . I don't have a PC yet, funds are tight right now, so Agar is currently out of the question.
So once I have my 4 prints I'll be set for a while then sweet, don't gotta buy more MS syringes lol.
I do want to try another strain next time though. Then I'll just print and save that one too 
Thanks again guys.
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Re: Second Grow attemp ever, experienced shroomery users help please! [Re: patcorr_2001]
#23960733 - 12/27/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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You could trade prints with other users on market place or AMU both on this forum
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Re: Second Grow attemp ever, experienced shroomery users help please! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23960884 - 12/27/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Second Grow attemp ever, experienced shroomery users help please! [Re: amidogen]
#23966751 - 12/29/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well good news , my cake ended up giving me 3.4G and that's bone dry, in the dehydrator on 120 F for about 16-18 hours . Crumbles to dust when squished . First cake gave me 3.2, this time 3.4 Things are going good so far.
My first cakes second flush isn't going so good.. It's been over a week now and it has only one mushroom about 3 inches long on it, and I don't see any other pins at all. Is that normal ??
Tomorrow I will be dunking and rolling my last jar , and dunking the cake I had just harvested . My other cakes first flush is looking alright so far , it's got about 5-6 mushrooms all about 3" long, should be atleast a 2.5g flush (caps haven't started opening yet at all)
Also, two of my mates begged me to try them, so I provided them with 4.5G, my one mates eating 2.5, other 2, and they rarely eat them, so I'm guessing they're rolling hard right now cause they said they would text me and let me know if they were tripping , and they ate them Over 3 hours ago now haha . I'm sure I'll hear from those guinea pigs tomorrow LoL.
Here are some pics I took earlier today :
As you can see this cake isn't looking to shabby :

And this ones second flush, pretty gay...:
Edited by patcorr_2001 (12/29/16 09:29 PM)
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Re: Second Grow attemp ever, experienced shroomery users help please! [Re: patcorr_2001]
#23966797 - 12/29/16 09:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice did you re dunk for 24 after the 1st flush?
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Re: Second Grow attemp ever, experienced shroomery users help please! [Re: NDStepp84]
#23967325 - 12/30/16 05:05 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I sure did , and it's only producing one mush so far .
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KauaiOrca
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Re: Second Grow attemp ever, experienced shroomery users help please! [Re: patcorr_2001]
#23967335 - 12/30/16 05:17 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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patcorr_2001 said: Alright cool thanks guys . I don't have a PC yet, funds are tight right now, so Agar is currently out of the question.
So once I have my 4 prints I'll be set for a while then sweet, don't gotta buy more MS syringes lol.
I do want to try another strain next time though. Then I'll just print and save that one too 
Thanks again guys.
A print done onto foil then made into syringes has a pretty high likelihood of not being all that clean ... especially when you're doing it the first time. There are ways to take very clean prints, usually from invitro grows, but my guess is you'll be disappointed if you don't take some steps to clean up those spores before attempting a grow with them.
Not trying to be a jerk, but doing spore prints and growing without a PC is a pretty tough thing to do. It can be done, but you'll have to deal with a lot of frustration.
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Re: Second Grow attemp ever, experienced shroomery users help please! [Re: KauaiOrca]
#23967844 - 12/30/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alright , well what's the best way to make a print for spore syringes without a PC? Is there a cleaner / better at?
Also , my buddies tried each just over 2G of my fruits laatnight . My one mate has eaten them about a dozen times in his lifetime , and he said he had the best trip of his life on my fruits he said they were really potent so I'm proud of myself after hearing that .
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Re: Second Grow attemp ever, experienced shroomery users help please! [Re: patcorr_2001]
#23967874 - 12/30/16 11:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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patcorr_2001 said: Alright , well what's the best way to make a print for spore syringes without a PC? Is there a cleaner / better at?
Also , my buddies tried each just over 2G of my fruits laatnight . My one mate has eaten them about a dozen times in his lifetime , and he said he had the best trip of his life on my fruits he said they were really potent so I'm proud of myself after hearing that .
Good for you! That's great to hear.
In terms of spore prints, here's how I do it and I learned it from this thread ... need to go about mid way down the first page where it comes out.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19035270#19035270
BTW, i general, her (Violet) growing method is, at least to me, the best, simplest, cleanest and most reliable for small grows. She has a lot of tek's up but I like it infinitely more than PF Tek which I don't like at all ... Hate SGFC's ... but you do need a Pressure Cooker which, BTW, makes everything much, much easier.
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Re: Second Grow attemp ever, experienced shroomery users help please! [Re: KauaiOrca]
#23968213 - 12/30/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I and most other members follow the regular teks that have proven results I dont like most of violets teks and im not alone too many vectors for contams and failures for my liking. Plus that link all the results look poor so not a good way to go
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Re: Second Grow attemp ever, experienced shroomery users help please! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23968355 - 12/30/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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mrmazdarx9 said: I and most other members follow the regular teks that have proven results I dont like most of violets teks and im not alone too many vectors for contams and failures for my liking. Plus that link all the results look poor so not a good way to go
Vectors for contams? LOL! If anything, that's the thing about her tek's that stands out is they avoid contamination. What's an example of a vector for contam with her invitro growing tek? It's all about contam prevention with her teks.
The key to her method is finding a strain that likes that method. Once you find that, they thrive. For instance ...
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Re: Second Grow attemp ever, experienced shroomery users help please! [Re: KauaiOrca]
#23968565 - 12/30/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Find a strain that likes her method bullshit all cubes bar pe are the same talking crap you dont make a tek to cater to a specific cube bar pe. Im not jacking someones thread to argue with you no one uses her stuff for a reason leave it there
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Re: Second Grow attemp ever, experienced shroomery users help please! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23968582 - 12/30/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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mrmazdarx9 said: Find a strain that likes her method bullshit all cubes bar pe are the same talking crap you dont make a tek to cater to a specific cube bar pe. Im not jacking someones thread to argue with you no one uses her stuff for a reason leave it there
Not all strains like invitro growing as much as others. That's a fact. You can argue all you want, but anyone that's grown in bags or invitro will tell you that. Hey, if you don't like Violet's stuff, no problem. A lot of people do, obviously by how long her threads are ...
There's more than one way to do this. PF Tek ... mono's ... mudabottles ... mini mono's ... V-tek's ... They all work ... if you follow the tek and do it clean.
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Re: Second Grow attemp ever, experienced shroomery users help please! [Re: KauaiOrca]
#23968603 - 12/30/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ive grown in bags invitro etc etc alway got the same results a cube is a cube there is no difference STRAIN or rather VARIETY play no role in anything hence why even in the rules for cult RR posted a specific point stating that it makes no difference and created a sub forum for people that think is does mater 6. Do NOT ask strain questions in cultivation. Ask those silly q's here, 'Strain' in mushrooms is not the same as strain in pot growing, thus we keep 'strain talk' sequestered in it's own dungeon so people won't think it actually matters.
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Re: Second Grow attemp ever, experienced shroomery users help please! [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23968648 - 12/30/16 05:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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mrmazdarx9 said: Ive grown in bags invitro etc etc alway got the same results a cube is a cube there is no difference STRAIN or rather VARIETY play no role in anything hence why even in the rules for cult RR posted a specific point stating that it makes no difference and created a sub forum for people that think is does mater 6. Do NOT ask strain questions in cultivation. Ask those silly q's here, 'Strain' in mushrooms is not the same as strain in pot growing, thus we keep 'strain talk' sequestered in it's own dungeon so people won't think it actually matters.
I didn't "ask" any questions. Not sure why you're so hostile on this. I've grown Invitro essentially since I started. First in bags then in bottles. My experience is 180 degrees different from yours. Some cultures/isolates that will explode in monos or with PFTek WILL NOT FRUIT at all invitro and others thrive. You can get almost any type of cube to fruit decent in a SGFC or Mono if it's properly set up. Invitro has a lot less fresh air and it impacts the cultures/isolates/MS Grows a lot.
Having said that, if you're persistent enough and willing to try enough clones and isolates, I have no doubt, starting with any spore print, you could find a clone or isolate that would work. But saying they're all equal in terms of likelihood of thriving invitro is not true at all from my experience.
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Edited by KauaiOrca (12/30/16 05:09 PM)
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Re: Second Grow attemp ever, experienced shroomery users help please! [Re: KauaiOrca]
#23968660 - 12/30/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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My point wasnt that you asked a question or broke a rule, my point was that all cubes are cubes so much so theres a little dungeon where talk of strain is sequestered to so that people dont think strain matters which it does not. If one variety didnt grow thats not the varieties fault its the growers or the genetics.
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