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Ifishhigh
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Not caring
#23764932 - 10/23/16 06:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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If my neighbors house exploded today with their kids having a birthday party. It wouldn't bother me in the least bit. I don't hate them, I actually like them. If a plane goes down and a school gets shot up or a famous actor dies ....... I don't give a shit. Am I alone in this thinking ? Am I an asshole ?
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Sheekle
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it just means you're a sociopath
when random strangers around the world die i dont care much, tis the circle of life. i dont think people should kill each other though
but if i have an emotional connection with someone, aka neighbors, then i would feel some degree of mourning for their loss, especially if a bunch of innocent children were murdered
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BANANA.MAN
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Re: Not caring [Re: Sheekle]
#23764958 - 10/23/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: it just means you're a sociopath
when random strangers around the world die i dont care much, tis the circle of life. i dont think people should kill each other though
but if i have an emotional connection with someone, aka neighbors, then i would feel some degree of mourning for their loss, especially if a bunch of innocent children were murdered
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Ifishhigh
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I feel bad when I see someone eating dinner by themself at a restaurant. I feel bad if my wife cries. But the shitty news about people getting beheaded or a death of someone famous doesn't phase me in the least bit. As far as kids dying that's weird to me too. At what age does someone's life not matter as much anymore. What's the cut off
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weirdguy32
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alexestalex is that you?
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Lucis
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Re: Not caring [Re: Sheekle]
#23764974 - 10/23/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: it just means you're a sociopath
No it doesn't, you don't know what you're talking about.
Read about sociopaths in the DSM-5.
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BANANA.MAN
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Ifishhigh said: I feel bad when I see someone eating dinner by themself at a restaurant. I feel bad if my wife cries. But the shitty news about people getting beheaded or a death of someone famous doesn't phase me in the least bit. As far as kids dying that's weird to me too. At what age does someone's life not matter as much anymore. What's the cut off
Then maybe you arent a sociopath idk
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Ifishhigh
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My name rob. Not alex
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moonrockmushy
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See you're an ideas man, invite me over for the bbq.
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I have high-functioning Asperger's with some antisocial personality traits. I'm indifferent to others, but most of the time I don't *want* to see them die.
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Sheekle
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Re: Not caring [Re: Lucis] 1
#23765198 - 10/23/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fennario said:
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Sheekle said: it just means you're a sociopath
No it doesn't, you don't know what you're talking about.
Read about sociopaths in the DSM-5.
-------------------- "Ur cat died because he hated u" - Koods "I hope JSB kicks your ass one day." - Vandago "you are the biggest 'internet guy' I have ever come across"- Jokeshopbeard "The more I see you post the more I realize you're just this fuckin tie dye loser who trolls the Shroomery 24/7." - Herbologist "Sheekle you cannot vile the dice of bullshit you have posted on this forum over the years, I like databases" - thelastoneleft "or maybe i just come from a blood line of superior intelligence" - trees R.I.P Kelsy, ?/?/?? - 6/11/16
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Moonshoe
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I have literally burst into sobbing tears from reading newspaper stories of tragedies happening to people I don't know on several occasions.
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Edited by Moonshoe (10/23/16 10:00 PM)
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Quote:
Ifishhigh said: If my neighbors house exploded today with their kids having a birthday party. It wouldn't bother me in the least bit. I don't hate them, I actually like them. If a plane goes down and a school gets shot up or a famous actor dies ....... I don't give a shit. Am I alone in this thinking ? Am I an asshole ?
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Re: Not caring [Re: Lucis]
#23765585 - 10/23/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fennario said:
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Sheekle said: it just means you're a sociopath
No it doesn't, you don't know what you're talking about.
Read about sociopaths in the DSM-5.
The dsm is bullshit. That being said I agree they're fine.
I only get really upset over things I have control over. If I screw someone over I'm gonna feel shitty about it forever. If they die in a random car crash I'll think about it briefly then move on.  I can't stand people who do the fake sympathy thing and go around "oh isn't that so awful" just to run their mouth and feel good about themselves.
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Lucis
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Eggtimer said:
The dsm is bullshit.
Except for the fact that it has helped countless individuals. If that's what you call bullshit, I feel bad for you.
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akira_akuma
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Moonshoe said: I have literally burst into sobbing tears from reading newspaper stories of tragedies happening to people I don't know on several occasions.
which literally means nothing.
which makes for an even weepier conundrum.
Edited by akira_akuma (10/23/16 11:29 PM)
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Eggtimer
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Re: Not caring [Re: Lucis] 1
#23765646 - 10/23/16 11:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fennario said:
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Eggtimer said:
The dsm is bullshit.
Except for the fact that it has helped countless individuals. If that's what you call bullshit, I feel bad for you. 
Allen Frances the chairman of it stepped down
http://annals.org/aim/article/1722526/new-crisis-confidence-psychiatric-diagnosis
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Psychiatric diagnosis is facing a renewed crisis of confidence caused by diagnostic inflation. The boundaries of psychiatry are easily expanded because no bright line separates patients who are simply worried from those with mild mental disorders. The DSM-III opened the door to loose diagnosis by defining conditions that were no more than slightly more severe versions of such everyday problems as mild depression, generalized anxiety, social anxiety, simple phobias, sexual dysfunctions, and sleep disorders.
The fourth edition of the DSM (DSM-IV), published in 1994, tried to hold the line against further diagnostic inflation by taking the conservative stance of discouraging all changes and requiring substantial scientific evidence for them (3). Of 94 suggested new diagnoses, the DSM-IV added only 2, but this caution did not prevent the unexpected occurrence of 3 market-driven diagnostic fads. In the past 20 years, the rate of attention-deficit disorder tripled, the rate of bipolar disorder doubled, and the rate of autism increased more than 20-fold (4). The lesson should be clear that every change in the diagnostic system can lead to unpredictable overdiagnosis.
The DSM-5, the recently published fifth edition of the diagnostic manual, ignored this risk and introduced several high-prevalence diagnoses at the fuzzy boundary with normality. With the DSM-5, patients worried about having a medical illness will often be diagnosed with somatic symptom disorder (5), normal grief will be misidentified as major depressive disorder, the forgetfulness of old age will be confused with mild neurocognitive disorder, temper tantrums will be labeled disruptive mood dysregulation disorder, overeating will become binge eating disorder, and the already overused diagnosis of attention-deficit disorder will be even easier to apply to adults thanks to criteria that have been loosened further.
These changes will probably lead to substantial false-positive rates and unnecessary treatment. Drug companies take marketing advantage of the loose DSM definitions by promoting the misleading idea that everyday life problems are actually undiagnosed psychiatric illnesses caused by a chemical imbalance and require a solution in pill form. This results in misallocation of resources, with excessive diagnosis and treatment for essentially healthy persons (who may be harmed by it) and relative neglect of those with clear psychiatric illness (whose access to care has been sharply reduced by slashed state mental health budgets) (6). Only one third of persons with severe depression receive mental health care, and a large percentage of our swollen prison population consists of true psychiatric patients with no other place to go. Meta-analysis shows that the results of psychiatric treatment equal or surpass those of most medical specialties (7), but the treatments must be delivered to patients who really need them instead of being squandered on those likely to do well on their own.
The DSM-5 did not address professional, public, and press charges that its changes lacked sufficient scientific support and defied clinical common sense. It was prepared without adequate consideration of risk–benefit ratios and the economic cost of expanding the reach of psychiatry just when the field is about to achieve parity within an expanded national insurance system (8). I found the DSM-5 process secretive, closed, and disorganized. Deadlines were consistently missed. Field trials produced reliability results that did not meet historical standards. I believe that the financial conflict of interest of the American Psychiatric Association (APA), generated by DSM publishing profits needed to fill its budget deficit, led to premature publication of an incompletely tested and poorly edited product. The APA refused a petition for an independent scientific review of the DSM-5 that was endorsed by more than 50 mental health associations (9). Publishing profits trumped public interest.
The APA has been responsible for the diagnostic system for 100 years, having initially accepted the task when it was too unimportant for anyone else to care. However, the DSM has since acquired perhaps too much real-world influence as the arbiter of who gets what treatment and whether it will be reimbursed; who is eligible for disability benefits, Veterans Affairs benefits, and school and mental health services; and who qualifies to receive life insurance, adopt a child, fly an airplane, or buy a gun.
New psychiatric diagnoses are now potentially more dangerous than new psychiatric drugs. Diagnostic expansions lead to drug company promotions that dramatically increase the use of unnecessary medications, with high cost and potentially harmful side effects. In the United States, we carefully monitor new drug development but do not have an effective system to vet the safety and efficacy of new psychiatric diagnoses. The problems associated with the DSM-5 prove that the APA should no longer hold a monopoly on psychiatric diagnosis. Another mechanism for revising the diagnostic system must be developed.
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akira_akuma
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yeah, people often have a lacking view of what constitutes a crisis of confidence; and what constitutes a crisis of conscience, lacking all the same.
how do you propose to help people with schizophrenia?
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CookieCrumbs
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I don't think you're a sociopath. Just burned out and numbed by the excess of news like this. It's why I don't watch the news or listen to the problems of strangers anymore. It dulls the feeling of shit that actually matters in my own life.
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That second part isn't true. But I have decided that I won't play therapist so much anymore without getting paid. It's working out so far. ... only no one has paid me for shit...
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