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InvisibleJokeshopbeard
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You ever wonder what life would be like without drugs? * 1
    #23762085 - 10/22/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

They've been such a part of existence for me since I first discovered them at 14, but man, after absolute moments of connection whilst absolutely sober, I sometimes find myself asking 'could I ever live without them; in fact, would that be a healthier way to live?


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


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InvisibleJokeshopbeard
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Re: You ever wonder what life would be like without drugs? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23762100 - 10/22/16 08:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Well, now you put it like that... where's the fucking party at??!?!??


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


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InvisibleJokeshopbeard
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Re: You ever wonder what life would be like without drugs? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23762123 - 10/22/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I hear ya man. But I've lived with monks, and found (rarely IME) that refraining from any indulgence seems to grant a wisdom which is unmatched.

I sometimes wonder if it's a more noble path..


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


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Re: You ever wonder what life would be like without drugs? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23762149 - 10/22/16 08:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

probably it wouldn't be that different, I mean I think it'd be less interesting but I only do psychedelics a few times a year, so the one big change would be no weed (which I smoke most evenings). Other than that I don't mess with drugs so it wouldn't be a huge deal I think


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Re: You ever wonder what life would be like without drugs? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #23762153 - 10/22/16 08:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:
I sometimes wonder if it's a more noble path..




Screw nobility IMO. Drugs have helped me achieve insanely unrealistic professional goals which everyone around me thought were crazy. I can't imagine I would change much if I got a do-over.

My point being, my life is awesome with drugs and there's no reason to stop any time soon :shrug:.


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Re: You ever wonder what life would be like without drugs? [Re: falsereality] * 1
    #23762236 - 10/22/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Well, I'm mostly sober now. Life is more or less the same, I just dont get high anymore :shrug:

By mostly sober, I mean no drugs since may except poppy seed tea (I used it 4 days in a row about two weeks ago). Other then that little PST binge, nothing.


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Re: You ever wonder what life would be like without drugs? [Re: xbloodwhipx] * 1
    #23762245 - 10/22/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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xbloodwhipx said:
Well, I'm mostly sober now. Life is more or less the same, I just dont get high anymore :shrug:



Yeah you don't make it sound that great.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


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Re: You ever wonder what life would be like without drugs? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23762260 - 10/22/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Because its not. Life sucks regardless :lol:


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InvisibleJokeshopbeard
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Re: You ever wonder what life would be like without drugs? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #23762269 - 10/22/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ah mate, life is a hard slog for every one of us. But as deliverance said earlier, we gotta work to try and find that 'sweet spot'.

Is your sobriety chosen or enforced?


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


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Re: You ever wonder what life would be like without drugs? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23762283 - 10/22/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Chosen. I've been doing drugs pretty regularly for the past 5ish years, and just decided to stop for awhile. Plus I have depersonalization, and figured soberiety may help me get back to normal. So far I'm feeling a lot better in that aspect.


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Re: You ever wonder what life would be like without drugs? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #23762290 - 10/22/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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xbloodwhipx said:
Because its not. Life sucks regardless :lol:




I don't know man... there are parts of life that really suck regardless of who you are, but if you work your ass off and play your cards right you can come out on top and live a pretty comfortable existence.


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Re: You ever wonder what life would be like without drugs? [Re: falsereality]
    #23762300 - 10/22/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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xbloodwhipx said:
So far I'm feeling a lot better in that aspect.



I'm fucking glad to hear that man. Keep fighting the good fight.

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falsereality said:
live a pretty comfortable existence.



Mate, it's about the best we can hope for huh?


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


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Re: You ever wonder what life would be like without drugs? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23762309 - 10/22/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Jokeshopbeard said:
Quote:

xbloodwhipx said:
So far I'm feeling a lot better in that aspect.



I'm fucking glad to hear that man. Keep fighting the good fight.

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falsereality said:
live a pretty comfortable existence.



Mate, it's about the best we can hope for huh?



Thanks, its really cool to feel myself become myself again. Kinda like im re entering reality. It was so bad in may when I quit drugs I was considering suicide. Mostly because I'd been DP'ed for about 3 1/2-4 years. Its for sure cool to slowly reconnect with everything.


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Re: You ever wonder what life would be like without drugs? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #23762322 - 10/22/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

If I had stopped doing drugs after 18 my life probably would have been amazing and my life still is good it's just people bring me down all the time so I am usually isolated


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Re: You ever wonder what life would be like without drugs? [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #23762414 - 10/22/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

I can totally stop doing drugs, I just need to eat enough LSD to last me forever.

But really though, life without drugs would be crazy. I'd wake up and not get high. Then I'd get dressed and not get high, make breakfast and not get high. Go to work and not get high. Come home and eat, not get high, fuck my wife,  not get high, and then go to bed, then I'd do it over again every day.

When people don't do drugs they end up weird.


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Re: You ever wonder what life would be like without drugs? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #23762416 - 10/22/16 09:48 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Ram Dass gave a buddhist monk in India some LSD and the next morning when he asked the monk how it was he said "it's good, but not as good as meditation".

An inner experience is priceless, incomparable. You can have one sober, you can have one on drugs, it doesn't matter. My point is, no matter how you change your consciousness, it's the inner experience that really counts.

Sometimes life is just simpler without drugs, and simplicity leads to a richness of experience. It's fun to weave a tapestry of 'signs' to keep life trippy even without psychedelics.

Just saying, there's no need to put drugs on a pedestal by thinking that life is inherently better by taking them.


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Re: You ever wonder what life would be like without drugs? [Re: WeAreMushroom]
    #23762421 - 10/22/16 09:49 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

WeAreMushroom said:
When people don't do drugs they end up weird.



I agree with your whole post, but this bit especially.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


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Re: You ever wonder what life would be like without drugs? [Re: Chakra Shock]
    #23762430 - 10/22/16 09:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Chakra Shock said:
Ram Dass gave a buddhist monk in India some LSD and the next morning when he asked the monk how it was he said "it's good, but not as good as meditation".




I've heard that monk actually didn't take the lsd.
I don't buy the meditation crowd's rhetoric, I mean sure you can do cool things with it, even go places with enough time and the right conditions, but to me the fact that solid information on this is incredibly hard to find always implies to me it's just cult rhetoric at work.


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Re: You ever wonder what life would be like without drugs? [Re: Chakra Shock]
    #23762437 - 10/22/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Chakra Shock said:
Just saying, there's no need to put drugs on a pedestal by thinking that life is inherently better by taking them.



Or perhaps thinking that life would be inherently be better by not taking them?

I agree, the connection comes from within. But it for me, it takes hours of concentration sober, or eating a psychedelic to achieve.

Perhaps that path is one of laziness?


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


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Re: You ever wonder what life would be like without drugs? [Re: Ezuma]
    #23762440 - 10/22/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Ezuma said:
I don't buy the meditation crowd's rhetoric



Gotta disagree with you there Ez. First time I ever felt true, sober connection, for a fraction of a second, I realised that it is the ultimate state of existence.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


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