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so i boiled up some cactus
    #23758524 - 10/21/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

ate teh tar a little over an hour ago

i'm in another world already

sheesh, this ain't no long slow comeup

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Re: so i boiled up some cactus [Re: LuzaW]
    #23758577 - 10/21/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: so i boiled up some cactus [Re: Mental Taco] * 1
    #23758603 - 10/21/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

How much did you eat of what kind of cactus? Super interested in trying mescaline in the near future.

Have a great trip man! How would you compare what you're experiencing from cactus to LSD/psilocybin/MDMA/DMT/2C-B, etc?

Good vibes. :busytripping:

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Re: so i boiled up some cactus [Re: WeAreMushroom]
    #23758706 - 10/21/16 05:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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How much did you eat of what kind of cactus? Super interested in trying mescaline in the near future.

Have a great trip man! How would you compare what you're experiencing from cactus to LSD/psilocybin/MDMA/DMT/2C-B, etc?

Good vibes. :busytripping:



I would also like to know.  @Luza. Good vibes your way brother.


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Re: so i boiled up some cactus [Re: Chakatron]
    #23758786 - 10/21/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Ive tried lsd mescaline and shrooms, they all slightly differ but mescaline to me feels like the electric energy stimulatuon of lsd mixed with the organic shroom visuals of paisley patterns and geometrical shapes, it also has its own phenethylamine feel to it ,the cactus spirit always tells me something about my life, it has great introspection, i also had visuals of monkeys and jaguars in the carpet, its my favorite psychedelic  for sure


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Re: so i boiled up some cactus [Re: connectedcosmos] * 1
    #23759976 - 10/22/16 04:43 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

wow, now that was/is a trip

before eating the tar i thought that i might want to take a hit of L to make sure of a good liftoff.  did. not. need. it.

i watched the first episode of the new season of Black Mirror that dropped on Netflix while waiting for the effects to kick in.  i was tripping hard before the episode was over.  by 90 minutes in i was rapidly approaching the peak.  the peak was a solid 5 hours, maybe more.

i will take cactus 10 times out of 10 over L, just so much better in every way

dose was about 22-24g of the cracker dry dark green outer flesh, bridgesii.  the fresh source material was close to 2 feet, about 1088g fresh weight

tired now, but probably can't sleep yet.  still have visuals, colors, etc

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Re: so i boiled up some cactus [Re: LuzaW] * 1
    #23760004 - 10/22/16 05:06 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i never go in for that hippy-dippy shit, none of that plant spirit mumbo-jumbo, no asking questions or seeking answers or looking for teachings crap.  i'm there for the ride, that's it.  what is this experience going to be like

this experience was like the finest, most delicate antique crystal.  impossibly thin, perhaps only one molecule thick, sparkling, slowly turning so as to be observed from every possible angle, with a high brite tinkling sound, exquisitely pleasing to the eye and ear

visual distortions were profound.  i was overwhelmed.  size, proportion, dimension, color, texture were bewildering.  it was all i could do to pour a glass of water, bring it to my lips, and drink.  i basically had to go by feel and my body's understanding of the basic mechanics of how to do it.  i simply could not manage the task by visual means

maybe more later

oh, no stomach discomfort at all.  i had eaten a chicken and veg dinner about 90 minutes before dosing.  i almost always eat light and clean.  i ate some fruit at some point, and then more chicken and veg sometime after that.  figuring out how to eat was just as challenging as figuring out the water thing

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Re: so i boiled up some cactus [Re: LuzaW]
    #23761285 - 10/22/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

LuzaW said:
wow, now that was/is a trip

before eating the tar i thought that i might want to take a hit of L to make sure of a good liftoff.  did. not. need. it.

i watched the first episode of the new season of Black Mirror that dropped on Netflix while waiting for the effects to kick in.  i was tripping hard before the episode was over.  by 90 minutes in i was rapidly approaching the peak.  the peak was a solid 5 hours, maybe more.

i will take cactus 10 times out of 10 over L, just so much better in every way

dose was about 22-24g of the cracker dry dark green outer flesh, bridgesii.  the fresh source material was close to 2 feet, about 1088g fresh weight

tired now, but probably can't sleep yet.  still have visuals, colors, etc




Inspiring.  I have 24" inches of bridgesii drying right now and I'm planning to do the the sit and soak method using alcohol.  I have tried making tea twice for far but I didn't trip.  I'm not sure why it didnt work the first time, and on the second one I passed out and the water evaporated on me and fried the goo. 

I think the alcohol extraction should be a surefire method for me.  CANT FUCKING WAIT!!!!


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Re: so i boiled up some cactus [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23761484 - 10/22/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i felt the effects for at least 18 hours.  slept for 4 hours after that and woke up to pretty much baseline

better than muchrooms, and way better than L

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Re: so i boiled up some cactus [Re: LuzaW]
    #23761535 - 10/22/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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i felt the effects for at least 18 hours.  slept for 4 hours after that and woke up to pretty much baseline

better than muchrooms, and way better than L





I'm surprised to hear that 22-24g was that strong. I was planning on using 50g of dried cactus powder but I made need rethink the weight after reading this


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Re: so i boiled up some cactus [Re: LuzaW]
    #23761564 - 10/22/16 05:22 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

LuzaW said:
wow, now that was/is a trip

before eating the tar i thought that i might want to take a hit of L to make sure of a good liftoff.  did. not. need. it.

i watched the first episode of the new season of Black Mirror that dropped on Netflix while waiting for the effects to kick in.  i was tripping hard before the episode was over.  by 90 minutes in i was rapidly approaching the peak.  the peak was a solid 5 hours, maybe more.

i will take cactus 10 times out of 10 over L, just so much better in every way

dose was about 22-24g of the cracker dry dark green outer flesh, bridgesii.  the fresh source material was close to 2 feet, about 1088g fresh weight

tired now, but probably can't sleep yet.  still have visuals, colors, etc



I'm gonna give it one last try. Your post got me believing. I'm extracting 28 grams dried bridgesii chips. I'll let you know in 2 weeks the results

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Re: so i boiled up some cactus [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23761590 - 10/22/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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i felt the effects for at least 18 hours.  slept for 4 hours after that and woke up to pretty much baseline

better than muchrooms, and way better than L





I'm surprised to hear that 22-24g was that strong. I was planning on using 50g of dried cactus powder but I made need rethink the weight after reading this




i started with fresh and only used the dark green outer flesh.  did you buy powder or make it yourself?  who knows what you actually got if you bought the powder from another source.  might not be bridge, might have lots of white flesh mixed in, who knows.  it might take all 50g

i ordered the cactus from a well known, long time vendor of bridgesii

the visuals were more profound than a 5g mush trip with the bonus of much less head fuck, no yawns, no runny nose.  it turned out to be way more trip than i expected, but not more than i could handle or enjoy

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Re: so i boiled up some cactus [Re: LuzaW]
    #23763022 - 10/23/16 01:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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LuzaW said:
i felt the effects for at least 18 hours.  slept for 4 hours after that and woke up to pretty much baseline

better than muchrooms, and way better than L





I'm surprised to hear that 22-24g was that strong. I was planning on using 50g of dried cactus powder but I made need rethink the weight after reading this




i started with fresh and only used the dark green outer flesh.  did you buy powder or make it yourself?  who knows what you actually got if you bought the powder from another source.  might not be bridge, might have lots of white flesh mixed in, who knows.  it might take all 50g

i ordered the cactus from a well known, long time vendor of bridgesii

the visuals were more profound than a 5g mush trip with the bonus of much less head fuck, no yawns, no runny nose.  it turned out to be way more trip than i expected, but not more than i could handle or enjoy




I really hope I have the same experience.  It seems that most who have tried mescaline favor it over any other psychedelic.

Yeah it's bridgesii.  I have the full cacti and I'm going to make my own powder.  It's air drying right now but I'm planning on putting it in a food dehydrator in a few days to speed up the process.

But I've heard several others say that 50g is the right amount but I think they are referring to the entire cactus being powdered down, and not just the skin like you did.  Is that where all the good meds are?

I know it's all about the weight of the cactus, but just out of curiosity how long was the cutting you used to make your last batch?


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Re: so i boiled up some cactus [Re: LuzaW]
    #23763207 - 10/23/16 04:22 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

When buying cactus-chips, or powder, make sure you don't do something illegal.
While a living cactus is legal to buy, in most countries it's illegal to cut and dry SanPedro cactus for ingestion.
Offering and selling powder to others might even be more criminal.

Make your own powder, use your own plants, and don't tell your neighbours about it. :thumbup:
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The potency can vary so much, right, but when only the outer dark green flesh is dried you end up with 10-15g of powder per foot.
I once made my own powder out of 15 feet of different cacti (bridge, pedro, peruvian), I used only the very dark green flesh.
The endproduct was so potent, 10g was threshold visuals, 12-15g was a solid trip, 20g made me trip really, really hard!
I guess my powder had aprox 15-20mg mescaline per gram, 20g would be like 350-400mg mescaline.

I cannot believe that some people suggest to ingest 50-75g of cactus powder, their powder must always have been very weak.
Ingesting so much could easily be overkill. My powder was made of cactus of moderate potency only..

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Re: so i boiled up some cactus [Re: LuzaW]
    #23763216 - 10/23/16 04:35 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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i felt the effects for at least 18 hours.




Yeah, a big dose of cactus makes you trip for a long, long time. :thumbup:

I found with bridgesii involved the gradually comedown can last longer than the peak itself.
My first cactus experience was hefty, I pureed 22" pach and bridge and ate all the mush raw. :laugh:
I had open eye visuals while smoking even 24 hours after ingestion, took me 30 hours to be back at baseline and a few awesome days of an afterglow.

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Re: so i boiled up some cactus [Re: Pandemoon]
    #23763252 - 10/23/16 05:29 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

DB, i'd say it was about 18 inches.  i misspoke earlier in this thread or maybe a different thread that it was 2 feet.

it is my understanding that the actives are mostly in the dark green flesh

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Re: so i boiled up some cactus [Re: LuzaW]
    #23764807 - 10/23/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I used 100+ grams of san pedro. Mild effects, didnt have many visuals. Although it did make me really happy

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Re: so i boiled up some cactus [Re: Herbgrower12]
    #23765695 - 10/23/16 11:54 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

How did you like the come down?  I think it is more soothing/relaxing than L and doesn't seem like it's taking forever to say goodbye, lol.  I came out the other side feeling totally rested even though I'd been rocketing round the universe half the night.  The rest of the day and part of the next were pretty much write-offs I was glowing so hard.


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Re: so i boiled up some cactus [Re: KenInVic]
    #23766125 - 10/24/16 07:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Ive tried lsd mescaline and shrooms, they all slightly differ but mescaline to me feels like the electric energy stimulatuon of lsd mixed with the organic shroom visuals of paisley patterns and geometrical shapes




fuckin yes, my thoughts exactly


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Re: so i boiled up some cactus [Re: KenInVic]
    #23766381 - 10/24/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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How did you like the come down?  I think it is more soothing/relaxing than L and doesn't seem like it's taking forever to say goodbye, lol.  I came out the other side feeling totally rested even though I'd been rocketing round the universe half the night.  The rest of the day and part of the next were pretty much write-offs I was glowing so hard.


much nicer comedown than L.  cactus has a much longer peak than L, so the L comedown seems to take forever in comparison.  yes, def smoother comedown too.  just better in every way, at least for me.  granted, i haven't had that many cactus trips, but it was a much easier experience physically than L.  sure, i couldn't sleep for a good while, but i didn't feel wrung out on the comedown

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