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SvampebobFirkant
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Tripsit mom tomorrow
#23758698 - 10/21/16 05:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey everyone!
So recently I have told my mom that I do psychedelics, after some months of generally telling her beneficial they are, and she started to open up to it, so I waited for the moment to tell her, and I finally did! So she wants to try it as well. She has had social anxiety her whole life, and she hopes that this may be able to cure it, because she has tried everything else without any luck.
She is going to take 1g of shrooms, and she is gonna take it around 5pm at home tomorrow. I'll tripsit her, control the music, and else just leave her be, so she can experience it.
Any tips and knowledge you want to share? Everything is helpful!
For now this is what I will remember when tripsitting her (I have tripsitted a couple of times before)
- Get some fruit - Let her choose the music and make a playlist before, so we're ready - Stay inside - I won't talk to her, unless she talks to me first, because I don't want to interrupt her thoughtflow. When she wanna talk, she will start the convo - IF she badtrips (which I really doubt, set and setting is very good), then I will take her into another room, and/or change the music (It's really amazing how much music means, I have experienced my mood turning 180 degrees from bad to good, just by switching songs) - Tell her to go with the flow, and let the shrooms do their things, and to not have any expectations
Anything to add? Btw, I have also shown her the video of PsychedSubstances mother taking shrooms, and my mom really enjoyed watching it, so she kinda knows what she is going into
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id give her atleast 1.5
hope she has a fun time!
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Bill_Oreilly said: id give her atleast 1.5
hope she has a fun time!
I've talked about this with her, and I disagree though, because she just want her first time to be very calm and just so she gets a feeling of what psychedelics are about. I'm worried she might get too anxious and badtrip, if she gets more. It's better to be safe than sorry, and it sounds like it definitely won't be her last time tripping, if she has fun 
I sure hope so too!
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I don't know, In my experience, a gram is in that weird twilight zone where you're almost too "there" for it. 1g gives me more anxiety than 2 or 3. Shit I have an easier time with 5g than I do 1g, haha
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: Solivagant]
#23758729 - 10/21/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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1g is like that feeling where you wish you had more lol i hate the feeling like your about to trip but never do its like a long ass come up
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it is really odd to me that a boy would want to get his mother high.
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: Solivagant]
#23758734 - 10/21/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I agree, when you eat smaller doses, the come up may feel like "oh shit!! Here it comes...... Hour later you're pretty disappointed.
I re read this to myself and I feel it makes sense, I'm pretty buzzed tho.
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: sprinkles]
#23758747 - 10/21/16 06:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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sprinkles said: it is really odd to me that a boy would want to get his mother high.
Oh cmon
its never too late for everyone to experience psychedelics
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If it was liberty caps I'd give 3 grams dry, made into a mushy tea. My first liberty caps trip was from a tea from fresh picked mushrooms and it was great apart from that 'have I been poisoned' thought that was quite strong in my mind while I was yawning and feeling more cosy than I had ever felt in my life. With tea you come up quite quick, you feel the intensity of it and it doesn't drag on forever as I'm back down within 4 hours.
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yeah i would never want to trip with my mom or dad. And they're only 16 years older than me. They are on a peer/friend level, more so than most peoples parents i would imagine.
if I was my mom or dad I would feel very not good about doing that with my kid, like if they had any respect for me they wouldnt after that.
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: sprinkles]
#23758785 - 10/21/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can't see them having much respect for you either way OP. It may be a good idea to do a micro dose yourself just to make the vibes a little less experimenty. Hope it goes well either way.
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: pineninja] 1
#23758887 - 10/21/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Id also recommend 1.5, low doses of shrooms especially for new people are more likely to cause bad trips. You are altered enough that you are not sober, but not enough to really enjoy the trip. The result is your ego tries to hang on and the whole trip becomes a battle to keep control. The ego needs to be overpowered, at least partially, in order for the benefits of tripping to shine through.
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Yes, I would also recommend 1.5 grams for the first. 1 gram really just won't be enough. For my first trip, I took 1.5 grams and it was a really good dose. It gave me a decent body high, a different head space, and I only saw 2 minor visuals. The only thing that really made the trip bad for me was all the walking, not the best company, the nausea.
She'll definitely be fine on 1.5 grams, even if she is anxious!
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Hmm, maybe you're right guys, I have never really tried many small doses myself, but I have just seen people really freak out at 2g, even though I'm perfectly calm at that dose, but is the difference big between 1.5g and 2g? I'm just afraid it will be a bit overwhelming for a first timer. She has only had bad experience from her young days when she tried out weed (I'm not a fan of it either), she didn't like how she couldn't control her laughter and such.
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A walk in the back yard is a perfect area transition. It's open and calming/sometimes.. I hope she has fun.
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The difference is definitely noticeable. Honestly, I think 1.5 to 2 should be the minimum to go with. 1 is just uncomfortable. I just feel disappointed and a bit depersonalized on 1. She can handle it man!
Edited by Solivagant (10/21/16 07:38 PM)
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SvampebobFirkant said: Hmm, maybe you're right guys, I have never really tried many small doses myself, but I have just seen people really freak out at 2g, even though I'm perfectly calm at that dose, but is the difference big between 1.5g and 2g? I'm just afraid it will be a bit overwhelming for a first timer. She has only had bad experience from her young days when she tried out weed (I'm not a fan of it either), she didn't like how she couldn't control her laughter and such.
Tell her she needs to be ready to let go and just let the mushrooms do what they will come what may. Each entheogen is different, so a bad experience on weed doesn't mean she'll have a bad experience on shrooms. But trying to "control" shrooms is bound to end up badly, make sure she is aware of that.
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Same experience with my mom, took me about 6 months to a year of opening her up but finally got her to do 2g and she loved it
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SvampebobFirkant said: Hmm, maybe you're right guys, I have never really tried many small doses myself, but I have just seen people really freak out at 2g, even though I'm perfectly calm at that dose, but is the difference big between 1.5g and 2g? I'm just afraid it will be a bit overwhelming for a first timer. She has only had bad experience from her young days when she tried out weed (I'm not a fan of it either), she didn't like how she couldn't control her laughter and such.
First of all, I've had 3 mushroom trips. First was 1.5 grams, second was 2, third was 2.5. I have to say, from my experiences, half a gram can make a pretty big difference tbh. On 1.5, I got a decent body and basically only 1 noticeable visual. On 2 grams, I saw more visuals, and the were more obvious. Also, I felt quite a bit more "fucked up", it was definitely stronger in terms of the head space. Then I had a bad trip the third time (less visuals, more CEV's, terrible set and setting though). If she's nervous, I probably wouldn't advise going past 1.5 grams, definitely not past 2.
Second, like Peyote Road said, she needs to know that she has to let go and let whatever happen. If she's not down to let go and accept it, she's more likely to have a bad time. Taking psychedelics is basically asking to lose control, so let it happen. My biggest mistake with my mushroom trips was fighting it when things started going bad or something happened that I didn't like.
I'm not worried for her though, I think she'll have a good time as long as the dose is right.
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Bumping for update.
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: pineninja] 1
#23768712 - 10/25/16 12:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Blanket, Water, Fruit, Bread, Music of her choice - both instrumental and none - classical is truly majestic of a choice! If you have access to an emergency anxiolytic med such as a minor sedative of the benzodiazpine class its good to have it in a safe box just to reassure the tripper that even if the worst comes they have a helper, just knowing this psychologically usually does the trick and the tripper doesn't need it.
Place some fresh flowers in a pot in the room your going to trip in, make sure its very very clean and Organized! cant stress this enough, also have some pillows around and some nice pictures of loved ones such as family over the years around here and there if you like.
If shes religious a picture or symbol of the tradition may be placed in a significant spot in the room. Fresh air can be good so sometimes a cracked window if its private enough.
And last, a note written by your mother noting the drug ingested, how much, what time, and her wish, and the date with her name on it. This can be used throughout the trip if one gets stuck in loops or if one cannot come to grips with the strangeness of the experience or they forget why their experiencing weird effects seemingly other worldly at times.
Best of luck! Starting of with a quiet 10-30 minute sitting meditation in silence before the ingestion is always a great way to center yourself for the trip. Also comfy clothes and a good shower before hand and a small fast before ingestion.
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I recommend 2 but I have never dosed lower than that so can't really comment on 1 vs 1.5 g etc, 2 is fairly light though any lighter and it's hardly representative of psychedelia at all
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: Ezuma]
#23768721 - 10/25/16 12:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not necessarily true, sometimes the mushrooms can contain a much higher (or lower) alkaloid level and there is no way to know unless lab tested bio assay or through ingestion. 1.5 grams can be to much or to little or just right for many.
Also some individuals are hyper sensitive to psychoactive and other substances due to unique genetic or biological factors as well as dietary habits and medications.
Still there is the people who say live deeply spiritual lives without drugs or who have had a great deal of times and effort put into studying and practicing philosophy and mysticism or world religions and more etc etc that when done can sometimes prep someone for an extremely deep trip just from there being a special context to it from aforementioned things.
Still I see your concern, imagine missing the mystic experience that psychedelics can dawn upon us because you under dosed by a gram or so! What a pity! Maybe maybe not
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Edited by The Blind Ass (10/25/16 12:32 AM)
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2g all the way for sure. If you're too scared to do 2g you're not ready for shrooms. Update OP?
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and I suppose you can always try again if 1.5 g is too little
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: Ezuma]
#23772059 - 10/26/16 12:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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i'd say 1.5g is good enough for your mom. I had a nice mild trip my first time with 1.2-1.5g (not sure exactly, it was eyeballed). Nothing too crazy just mild visuals and some mental effects, plenty good enough as an introduction to shrooms. Unless its Penis Envy then a gram or less (0.7-1.0g sounds good).
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That makes me super happy to read that somebody can share such things with their family, and their family doesn't lose their genitals over it. I hope the best! ~bunny
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: pineninja]
#23772143 - 10/26/16 01:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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pineninja said: I can't see them having much respect for you either way OP. It may be a good idea to do a micro dose yourself just to make the vibes a little less experimenty. Hope it goes well either way.
I would do this. Would make me more open to what mum had to say during her experience.
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I think what you are doing is awesome. I would be happy to trip with either of my children when the time comes.
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: Cajun love]
#23772729 - 10/26/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think before giving your mom -or indeed anyone- shrooms you should ask yourself if your are okay with the possibility of her having a bad trip? Imagine that scene! Mom crying or saying things maybe that you'd rather not be hearing from your own mother!
Personally I would never give shrooms to anyone, and certainly not a memeber of my own family as I think you have to let people take the responsibility onto their own shoulders. Psychedelics are too unpredictable and although I am willing to take responsiblity for my own bad trips I cannot do the same for other people nor ever really know if they have what it takes to surrender to or get through a difficult experience.
If not, what then?
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: wolf8312]
#23773176 - 10/26/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know it can happen, but Shrooms to so far have been pretty gentle, compared to oral DMT, the Shrooms really don't seem to be all that intense for me, strong/powerful yeah but definitely not intense like DMT. So i think the likelyhood of a bad trip with Shrooms is quite low, at least for me personally. I've gotten up to 3.5 grams, with Rue seed (Psilohuasca) and it's been pretty cool/interesting so far. I would say 2 to 2.5 grams would be a good dose for a beginner, starting too low is just a waste imo.
Could also perhaps try mixing 2 to 3 grams of Lemon Balm with the Shrooms to help with anxiety if need be. Lemon Balm is a really good plant.
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: Sabnock]
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man I envy people who find shrooms 'gentle' most of the time shrooms feel like a cosmic ass-whooping where they inflict misery on you for a few hours without much apparent reason, might be a sensitivity tho as they always make me feel sick
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So....tomorrow turned into today and we haven't heard anything from op on how things went.
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: Ezuma]
#23774033 - 10/26/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: man I envy people who find shrooms 'gentle' most of the time shrooms feel like a cosmic ass-whooping where they inflict misery on you for a few hours without much apparent reason, might be a sensitivity tho as they always make me feel sick
I feel you man
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pineninja said: I can't see them having much respect for you either way OP. It may be a good idea to do a micro dose yourself just to make the vibes a little less experimenty. Hope it goes well either way.
I would do this. Would make me more open to what mum had to say during her experience.
But this is family, not friends. I could see myself doing that for a friend, but a mother has all these tight scurly sensitive emotions that burst into one, So maybe its better than ONE is sober and happy? there is always NEXT TIME
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: littleton]
#23774371 - 10/26/16 07:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I said nothing about friends. I understand that taking it yourself whilst meant to be looking after another may sound a bit rash......but I'm talking a very low amount and it's not for the sitter it's for the person tripping so when they are in the middle of it they feel like the other is on their level and can understand their headspace......nothing worse than tripping around straight people ime.
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: littleton]
#23774380 - 10/26/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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littleton said: But this is family, not friends. I could see myself doing that for a friend, but a mother has all these tight scurly sensitive emotions that burst into one, So maybe its better than ONE is sober and happy? there is always NEXT TIME
to be fair, you don't know OP's mom
and as long as OP can 100% handle a low dose, it should be fine
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: Ezuma]
#23775226 - 10/26/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: man I envy people who find shrooms 'gentle' most of the time shrooms feel like a cosmic ass-whooping where they inflict misery on you for a few hours without much apparent reason, might be a sensitivity tho as they always make me feel sick
Perhaps i would've found them more intense had Rue and Mimosa not been my first Entheogen/Psychedelic. I think DMT is probably one of the most intense compounds out there. With LSD for example, i've gotten up to about 250mcgs to 300mcgs and it wasn't really that intense either, but the vasoconstriction kinda sucks. The few times i've tried Shrooms so far, i've had like 2 good Shroom only experiences my first few times with about 2 grams and 5 grams but the 5 grams was a bit on the weak side due to being wild and not homegrown, the 2 grams i had (homegrown Pink Buffalos) was definitely potent and felt kinda similar to DMT. The other times i've taken Shrooms have been with Rue in the mix. I know Shrooms have the potential to be intense, and perhaps tea would get me there, but so far ingesting the Shrooms, while powerful and strong, haven't really been intense. I'd also imagine that 5 to 7 grams of nice potent Shrooms, especially in tea form, would probably be intense for me. I hope to work more with Shrooms in the future though, for sure.
When i take oral DMT, once that Adrenaline hits man i have to calm my ass down lol, it's pretty intense stuff. The last couple of times i've taken Shrooms, it feels like i get the Serotonergic effects of Shrooms which feels similar to DMT, but it seems to lack the Adrenaline that i get from DMT.
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: Sabnock]
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oh for sure, I haven't done DMT but it sounds intense. For me LSD was much gentler than shrooms, maybe just because it didn't make me as anxious and nauseous but that was my experience. Also I found low doses of shrooms to be worse than more moderate to decent doses because of the prolonged anxiety
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so either this never ended up happening, or your mom had a psychotic fit and murdered you in a psychedelic rage, thus preventing you from relating the absorbing tale in full detail here. I chose to believe the latter, RIP OP
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: Ezuma]
#23793732 - 11/02/16 05:42 AM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nope trip got Freudian on his ass, and OP and his mother are now married-unofficially!
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: wolf8312]
#23794885 - 11/02/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 2 months ago) |
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wolf8312 said: Nope trip got Freudian on his ass, and OP and his mother are now married-unofficially!
these are the kind of details the public needs to know! We need the dirty on this fellow, stat
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