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The Blind Ass
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: pineninja] 1
#23768712 - 10/25/16 12:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Blanket, Water, Fruit, Bread, Music of her choice - both instrumental and none - classical is truly majestic of a choice! If you have access to an emergency anxiolytic med such as a minor sedative of the benzodiazpine class its good to have it in a safe box just to reassure the tripper that even if the worst comes they have a helper, just knowing this psychologically usually does the trick and the tripper doesn't need it.
Place some fresh flowers in a pot in the room your going to trip in, make sure its very very clean and Organized! cant stress this enough, also have some pillows around and some nice pictures of loved ones such as family over the years around here and there if you like.
If shes religious a picture or symbol of the tradition may be placed in a significant spot in the room. Fresh air can be good so sometimes a cracked window if its private enough.
And last, a note written by your mother noting the drug ingested, how much, what time, and her wish, and the date with her name on it. This can be used throughout the trip if one gets stuck in loops or if one cannot come to grips with the strangeness of the experience or they forget why their experiencing weird effects seemingly other worldly at times.
Best of luck! Starting of with a quiet 10-30 minute sitting meditation in silence before the ingestion is always a great way to center yourself for the trip. Also comfy clothes and a good shower before hand and a small fast before ingestion.
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I recommend 2 but I have never dosed lower than that so can't really comment on 1 vs 1.5 g etc, 2 is fairly light though any lighter and it's hardly representative of psychedelia at all
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: Ezuma]
#23768721 - 10/25/16 12:31 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not necessarily true, sometimes the mushrooms can contain a much higher (or lower) alkaloid level and there is no way to know unless lab tested bio assay or through ingestion. 1.5 grams can be to much or to little or just right for many.
Also some individuals are hyper sensitive to psychoactive and other substances due to unique genetic or biological factors as well as dietary habits and medications.
Still there is the people who say live deeply spiritual lives without drugs or who have had a great deal of times and effort put into studying and practicing philosophy and mysticism or world religions and more etc etc that when done can sometimes prep someone for an extremely deep trip just from there being a special context to it from aforementioned things.
Still I see your concern, imagine missing the mystic experience that psychedelics can dawn upon us because you under dosed by a gram or so! What a pity! Maybe maybe not
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Edited by The Blind Ass (10/25/16 12:32 AM)
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2g all the way for sure. If you're too scared to do 2g you're not ready for shrooms. Update OP?
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and I suppose you can always try again if 1.5 g is too little
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: Ezuma]
#23772059 - 10/26/16 12:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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i'd say 1.5g is good enough for your mom. I had a nice mild trip my first time with 1.2-1.5g (not sure exactly, it was eyeballed). Nothing too crazy just mild visuals and some mental effects, plenty good enough as an introduction to shrooms. Unless its Penis Envy then a gram or less (0.7-1.0g sounds good).
Edited by superbarnie (10/26/16 12:59 AM)
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That makes me super happy to read that somebody can share such things with their family, and their family doesn't lose their genitals over it. I hope the best! ~bunny
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: pineninja]
#23772143 - 10/26/16 01:58 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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pineninja said: I can't see them having much respect for you either way OP. It may be a good idea to do a micro dose yourself just to make the vibes a little less experimenty. Hope it goes well either way.
I would do this. Would make me more open to what mum had to say during her experience.
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I think what you are doing is awesome. I would be happy to trip with either of my children when the time comes.
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: Cajun love]
#23772729 - 10/26/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think before giving your mom -or indeed anyone- shrooms you should ask yourself if your are okay with the possibility of her having a bad trip? Imagine that scene! Mom crying or saying things maybe that you'd rather not be hearing from your own mother!
Personally I would never give shrooms to anyone, and certainly not a memeber of my own family as I think you have to let people take the responsibility onto their own shoulders. Psychedelics are too unpredictable and although I am willing to take responsiblity for my own bad trips I cannot do the same for other people nor ever really know if they have what it takes to surrender to or get through a difficult experience.
If not, what then?
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: wolf8312]
#23773176 - 10/26/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know it can happen, but Shrooms to so far have been pretty gentle, compared to oral DMT, the Shrooms really don't seem to be all that intense for me, strong/powerful yeah but definitely not intense like DMT. So i think the likelyhood of a bad trip with Shrooms is quite low, at least for me personally. I've gotten up to 3.5 grams, with Rue seed (Psilohuasca) and it's been pretty cool/interesting so far. I would say 2 to 2.5 grams would be a good dose for a beginner, starting too low is just a waste imo.
Could also perhaps try mixing 2 to 3 grams of Lemon Balm with the Shrooms to help with anxiety if need be. Lemon Balm is a really good plant.
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: Sabnock]
#23773590 - 10/26/16 03:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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man I envy people who find shrooms 'gentle' most of the time shrooms feel like a cosmic ass-whooping where they inflict misery on you for a few hours without much apparent reason, might be a sensitivity tho as they always make me feel sick
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So....tomorrow turned into today and we haven't heard anything from op on how things went.
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The Blind Ass
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: Ezuma]
#23774033 - 10/26/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: man I envy people who find shrooms 'gentle' most of the time shrooms feel like a cosmic ass-whooping where they inflict misery on you for a few hours without much apparent reason, might be a sensitivity tho as they always make me feel sick
I feel you man
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pineninja said: I can't see them having much respect for you either way OP. It may be a good idea to do a micro dose yourself just to make the vibes a little less experimenty. Hope it goes well either way.
I would do this. Would make me more open to what mum had to say during her experience.
But this is family, not friends. I could see myself doing that for a friend, but a mother has all these tight scurly sensitive emotions that burst into one, So maybe its better than ONE is sober and happy? there is always NEXT TIME
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: littleton]
#23774371 - 10/26/16 07:11 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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I said nothing about friends. I understand that taking it yourself whilst meant to be looking after another may sound a bit rash......but I'm talking a very low amount and it's not for the sitter it's for the person tripping so when they are in the middle of it they feel like the other is on their level and can understand their headspace......nothing worse than tripping around straight people ime.
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: littleton]
#23774380 - 10/26/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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littleton said: But this is family, not friends. I could see myself doing that for a friend, but a mother has all these tight scurly sensitive emotions that burst into one, So maybe its better than ONE is sober and happy? there is always NEXT TIME
to be fair, you don't know OP's mom
and as long as OP can 100% handle a low dose, it should be fine
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Re: Tripsit mom tomorrow [Re: Ezuma]
#23775226 - 10/26/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: man I envy people who find shrooms 'gentle' most of the time shrooms feel like a cosmic ass-whooping where they inflict misery on you for a few hours without much apparent reason, might be a sensitivity tho as they always make me feel sick
Perhaps i would've found them more intense had Rue and Mimosa not been my first Entheogen/Psychedelic. I think DMT is probably one of the most intense compounds out there. With LSD for example, i've gotten up to about 250mcgs to 300mcgs and it wasn't really that intense either, but the vasoconstriction kinda sucks. The few times i've tried Shrooms so far, i've had like 2 good Shroom only experiences my first few times with about 2 grams and 5 grams but the 5 grams was a bit on the weak side due to being wild and not homegrown, the 2 grams i had (homegrown Pink Buffalos) was definitely potent and felt kinda similar to DMT. The other times i've taken Shrooms have been with Rue in the mix. I know Shrooms have the potential to be intense, and perhaps tea would get me there, but so far ingesting the Shrooms, while powerful and strong, haven't really been intense. I'd also imagine that 5 to 7 grams of nice potent Shrooms, especially in tea form, would probably be intense for me. I hope to work more with Shrooms in the future though, for sure.
When i take oral DMT, once that Adrenaline hits man i have to calm my ass down lol, it's pretty intense stuff. The last couple of times i've taken Shrooms, it feels like i get the Serotonergic effects of Shrooms which feels similar to DMT, but it seems to lack the Adrenaline that i get from DMT.
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