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HoMetBoyz
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1st Grow, Need help
#23757950 - 10/21/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hello Everyone, I am starting my first cultivation in a few days and was wondering if any of you kind sirs or ladies could give me a bot of guidance.
I am weary because my first grow was invaded as anyone with knowledge would assume would happen. Here is my equipment, (please don't bash me for buying kit, I know).
Simple Mushroom Grow kit 6 Ultimate ½ pint substrate Jars- Pressure sterilized and ready to grow! Growing and incubating chamber Thermometer with Hygrometer/humidity gauge 2 Grow Lights- 3 diode 5000k LED & 3 diode 2700k LED 1 Gallon of Perlite- Fine, imported, specially formulated horticulture grade Hospital grade Latex Gloves Alcohol swabs 10ml spore syringe
Here is the substrate contents. (organic brown rice flour with vermiculite, mineral water, Liquid worm castings and Bee pollen)
I have read many tek and i have a basic understanding of what why when and where, but I thought it may help to speak with someone directly with my concerns. I do not own PC.
anything need to be added or taken away? How might I go about this cultivation?
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enlightenment
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Re: 1st Grow, Need help [Re: HoMetBoyz]
#23757961 - 10/21/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You do not need an incubation chamber. You do not need bee pollen.
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Pollen is collected from the bees by having them pass through a hardware cloth at the entrance to the hive. The pollen is scraped off their legs and drops into a tray below where it's collected. Many beekeepers collect this pollen and then feed it back to the bees during the winter. Others sell it on the market, and then feed sugar water to the bees in the off season. The bees use it to feed the young and queen. It isn't used in honey making. They collect and use nectar for that.
My point was a few years ago when bee pollen was all the rage, I tried it on several side by side tests. There was no increase in growth, rate of colonization, or health of the mycelium vs no pollen. Since that time, I've started raising bees and studying their habits and needs. It's universally accepted among beekeepers that harvesting the pollen for sale is hard on the colonies. Whether that's the main cause for collapse disorder or not is debatable. My wife and I live in a very remote mountain cabin in an area with no commercial agriculture, but millions of acres of wildflowers all over the mountains, and too far north and too high an elevation for the Africanized bees to survive. We want to do our part to try to save the bees. Sorry if I came across as preaching. RR
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Re: 1st Grow, Need help [Re: HoMetBoyz]
#23757964 - 10/21/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bee pollen? Isn't that like, pure sugar? Is that really wise to use?
And yeah... Kits... Just don't.
PF jars are so damn easy to do on your own. Brf and fine verm and a dozen pint jars. Done. You should really consider getting a pressure cooker, you can find cheap ones around if you look hard enough.
I hope you plan on using a proper SGFC.
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HoMetBoyz
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I know I know, I will invest in a cooker in the next few weeks/ months.
When it is time to inoculate, I poke 4 holes into lid, (sterilize nails?) What about the tin foil layers? Should I cover the Jar as I am poking the holes? Should I sterilize tin foil? If isopropyl alcohol touches substrate is substrate then ruined?
Edited by HoMetBoyz (10/21/16 12:49 PM)
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Re: 1st Grow, Need help [Re: HoMetBoyz]
#23757999 - 10/21/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You should poke the holes before you do anything with your jars. Poke them over a wooden board. Read more about PF tek. There are videos about PF tek online. It shows you everything you have to know.
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Re: 1st Grow, Need help [Re: HoMetBoyz]
#23758000 - 10/21/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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You need to read up man. Search for PF tek in the search engines and follow that tek exactly. It will tell you everything you need to know. Use official teks, not something janky that was hacked together. And don't cut corners.
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enlightenment
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same thoughts
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HoMetBoyz
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Will do then
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Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 11:58 AM)
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HoMetBoyz
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Re: 1st Grow, Need help [Re: amidogen]
#23758030 - 10/21/16 01:06 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, in high school a friend of mine (also neighbor) ordered spores. We forgot about them as months had passed low and behold 6-8months later they came. I did not own a PC at the time so I tried to sterilize in the oven LOL. anyways couple weeks later they were fucked.
I have no understanding of the bee pollen except what the post above says. The jars come pre mixed and sterilized. I figured it would be much easier than searching around for all materials.
If this one goes well, the next one I will use own materials.
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Re: 1st Grow, Need help [Re: HoMetBoyz]
#23758070 - 10/21/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 11:58 AM)
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HoMetBoyz
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Re: 1st Grow, Need help [Re: amidogen]
#23758958 - 10/21/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why do you say that? Besides the obvious fact that it is a grow kit.
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Re: 1st Grow, Need help [Re: HoMetBoyz]
#23760037 - 10/22/16 05:39 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sterilize nails?
Your money got taken. X2 5000k lights?? 
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amidogen
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Re: 1st Grow, Need help [Re: HoMetBoyz]
#23760299 - 10/22/16 09:00 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 11:58 AM)
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HoMetBoyz
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Re: 1st Grow, Need help [Re: amidogen]
#23760814 - 10/22/16 12:25 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow you guys are helpful its making me bananas. I will purchase pressure cooker and when I receive materials, I will PC them according to guides you guys gave me. Ty for the help. Mushroom is beautiful fungi. My favorite teacher.
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